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jody

(26,624 posts)
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 05:30 PM Nov 2012

"JURUPA VALLEY: School board to discuss Sikhs’ ceremonial kirpans"


To orthodox Sikhs throughout the world, the ceremonial kirpan is more than just a symbol. It is one of five sacred articles of faith that define the essence of the estimated 27 million Sikhs worldwide and must be worn at all times by baptized Sikhs.

In this context, Jurupa Unified School District officials have given permission for at least three Sikh students to wear a kirpan to school as long as the dagger-like articles are soldered or sewn into the sheath so they cannot be used.

“This is an issue of religious freedom and of faith,” said Mary Burns, the district’s longest-serving school board member. “Who am I to deny what is an article of faith of a 600-year-old religion?”

The kirpan is useful as an arm for self-defense regardless of its religious significance.

If the school board approves the kirpan, why not other arms such as a handgun?
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"JURUPA VALLEY: School board to discuss Sikhs’ ceremonial kirpans" (Original Post) jody Nov 2012 OP
If it's soldered or sewn into the sheath, then it seems to become much less of a weapon petronius Nov 2012 #1
Because using a handgun as a weapon JoeyT Nov 2012 #2
"Using a kirpan as a weapon is forbidden..." PavePusher Nov 2012 #4
Is your handgun an article of faith? SecularMotion Nov 2012 #3
There is a sect of Church of the FSM that considers them sacred objects that should be with you at ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #5
my sect of neo druids gejohnston Nov 2012 #6
OMG, a Cult!!1!11!!! PavePusher Nov 2012 #8
The term Beecher's Bible comes to mind. eom jbgood1977 Nov 2012 #7
If you mean my 1911, you're damn straight it's an article of faith slackmaster Nov 2012 #9
The rules should be applied equally to everyone 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #10

petronius

(26,602 posts)
1. If it's soldered or sewn into the sheath, then it seems to become much less of a weapon
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 05:37 PM
Nov 2012

and much more of the merely ceremonial. If your religion required you to carry a handgun, then I suppose the equivalent would be one with the barrel filled in (like in the theatre department), or glued into the holster...

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
2. Because using a handgun as a weapon
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 05:48 PM
Nov 2012

isn't against anyone's religion. Using a kirpan as a weapon is forbidden, and many Sikhs consider it an insult when people imply they'd use it as a weapon.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
4. "Using a kirpan as a weapon is forbidden..."
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:22 PM
Nov 2012

This may not be accurate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirpan

The kirpan has both a physical function, as a defensive weapon, as well as a symbolic function.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
5. There is a sect of Church of the FSM that considers them sacred objects that should be with you at
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 08:31 PM
Nov 2012

all times in case they run into aggressive non believers. However due to religious bigotry, the FSM is not accorded the same respect a xtianity and islam.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
6. my sect of neo druids
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 09:08 PM
Nov 2012

yes we, OK I, do. I just started it, but give me a few years to build up a following.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
8. OMG, a Cult!!1!11!!!
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 03:42 PM
Nov 2012

You'll be pilloried for that around here, you know.

Oh wait, you aren't related to xtians... never mind.

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