Citizen saves police officer under fire with 150 yard shot.

[Atypical Liberal]

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I bet that is one police officer who is glad law-abiding citizens own firearms.

[teddy51]

1. Kudos to this man for doing that. It is something that he didn't seem to want to do, but he

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responded to a tough situation.

To be clear, I don't like any loss of life, human or other but sometimes it is necessary to save others.

[Lurks Often]

2. Here's a news link

http://www.brownwoodnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9180:authorities-release-information-regarding-deadly-peach-house-rv-park-shooting-video&catid=35:news&Itemid=58

[Simo 1939_1940]

10. Law enforcement knows the score.

From the article:

Sheriff Grubbs also noted that some may take this incident as an opportunity to promote gun control; however he felt it is an example of importance of the right to bear arms.

[Common Sense Party]

3. I'm sure a can of beans or a firm talking-to would have been

just as effective at 165 yards.

[CokeMachine]

12. Depends on the brand of beans --

and who is throwing them. There is one member here that can probably do it at 200 yds with a followup bicycle tire just for good measure.

[Missycim]

14. Dont forget

about a good Quarter Staff (really a buck and a quarter staff)

[CokeMachine]

24. Thanks for reminding me!!

So many defense options. How is one supposed to keep up?

[ileus]

15. You may be able to roll a bicycle tire that far.

Nothing say saving lives like a 26" x 1.5" tire being rolled at you.

[DonP]

4. If I heard it right, 5 hits with a handgun from 150+ yards, while being shot at!

That is damn great shooting under stress in anybody's book.

[HALO141]

17. + about-a-billion

[rDigital]

35. Especially

When you consider it was a semi-auto long gun vs a wheel gun. Wild.

[HALO141]

36. Bad guy was armed with a 30-30

And two pistols so the rifle had to be a lever action. (If there's any sush thing as a 30-30 semi-auto I've never heard of it.) The 1st responding officer was using a AR-15.

[Jenoch]

38. My father has a Savage

single-shot .30-.30 with a break action. He bought at a hardware store for $30 about 45 years ago just because he'd never seen one before (or since).

[rDigital]

39. My bad.

Semi or not, 30-30 is on par with 7.62x39 ballistics and he was taking the shot with a revolver. That's still wild taking on a long gun with a pistol.

I misread and thought the bad guy had an AR. I've never heard of a semi 30-30 either.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

5. In contrast to younger spray-and-pray shooters, the civilian who aided the cop is 68 years old.

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When Stacy answered a phone call from neighbor, Mr. Brown, he didn't plan on hearing this:

"He said, 'You need to get over here quick, and bring your gun; I got a dead body laying over here in the road.' "

Stacy grabbed his 357 magnum and headed to Brown's RV.
...
"Brown asked me, 'Are you going to shoot at him?' I said, I sure am when I get a good shot," Stacy said.

[HALO141]

40. The difference is this guy is a shooter

not just a trigger jerking schmuck.

Tons of respect for him. I've shot steel silhouettes at 100 yards with S&W M&P 9mm but my hit ratio was only around 60-70%. 4 or 5 shots on target while under fire is tremendous. I'm gonna go out on a limb, here, and guess that this man doesn't fluster very easily.

[GreenStormCloud]

6. This violates so much that the antis constantly tell us.

(The 68 yr old was too old to shoot and needed his gun taken away.

A civilian is too poorly trained to be able to hit anything while under stress. He was supposed to miss all his shots and hit lots of innocent folks.

The cops were supposed to mistake him for the bad guy and shoot him.)

In all seriousness, that is some excellent shooting with a handgun.

BTW - He is wearing a cowboy hat.

[Kaleva]

7. And the bad guy had a common hunting rifle and two handguns.

[DonP]

8. "BTW - He is wearing a cowboy hat." ... and he has a southern accent.

He must be one of those "southern redneck militia types" that practice shooting human shaped targets at the range.

Man doesn't seem all too shook up about it all either.

Makes me wonder if he's been in the military and been shot at before?

[GreenStormCloud]

9. I read on another forum that he is not military or LEO.

His last part of the interview is, "...now I gotta live with it."

[AnotherMcIntosh]

16. If the post on the other forum is true, his ability to control his shots is even more remarkable.

Especially after his first shot.

[gejohnston]

11. We needed him in London

Olympic pistol is 50m. This guy hit a target at 137.16m.

[AtheistCrusader]

21. Hit him FIVE times

[Marinedem]

13. WOW!

That man is a MACHINE!

Someone give this man a medal! An Olympic one would fit the bill here...

[Simo 1939_1940]

18. I'm quite curious as to what type of handgun was used.

WOW indeed! Unreal shooting. And clearly he was not pleased that he was forced into this action. Shame on him for defying the stereotype of the bloodthirsty firearm owner!

[PavePusher]

19. I believe he said a .357 Magnum revolver.

150+ yards is really pushing the edge of both accuracy and effectiveness from a revolver.

Well done, Citizen!

[Simo 1939_1940]

20. At one time I had a Colt Python .357.........

........wonder how well I'd shoot it now.

Certainly not as well as this citizen!

[littlewolf]

22. when I first read the headline I thought

150 yds ... must be using a RIFLE ...
good gravy ... a 357 handgun ... awesome
shooting ... well done indeed ...
need him on the olympic team ....

[TPaine7]

23. Where are the antis?!!!

I'm still waiting for an anti to opine on this gentleman's racial views, his abortion views, his party affiliation and his NRA membership or lack thereof.

Where are all the antis?

Pro-rights folks post in anecdotal threads from the other side; how about a little reciprocity here?

[DanTex]

25. Law-abiding gun owner gets upset, kills two dogs and two people...

...before being shot dead by another law-abiding gun owner. Gee, it's great having all these law-abiding gun owners around!

[PavePusher]

26. In other words, ban them all, yes?

I knew one of you wouldn't be able to resist...

[EX500rider]

27. "Law-abiding gun owner gets upset, kills two dogs and two people.."

If you kill two people you are in fact not law abiding.

[DanTex]

28. Yes, we all know the story.

Law-abiding gun owners never hurt anyone, because as soon as they do, they cease to be law abiding! It works out great for the talking points!

[HALO141]

29. Truth hurts, huh Peaches?

[GreenStormCloud]

30. No one here claims "never".

You are lying when you claim that we say that law-abiding gun owners "never" hurt anyone. We admit that a few do, even some who have CCWs do, but that those numbers are very few.

[friendly_iconoclast]

33. You disparaged one of the articles of faith of his religion? How bigoted of you!

But since you brought it up...hows about a few more "faith-promoting rumors" (or "Bigfoots", for you cynics)?

You know- the ones they can't actually prove, but devoutly believe are true:

"Scary looking semi-automatic rifles are:
useless for hunting
widely used in crime
use 'high-powered' ammunition
are only owned by RW militia wannabees."

"Legal gun owners are:
a small minority of Americans
white racists
hicks
Southerners
Republicans"

"Concealed weapons permit holders are all:
(see descriptions of legal gun owners above)-in addition to
uniquely dangerous
wannabee cops/mall ninjas
liable to snap at any time
will get into shootouts over parking spaces"

"The NRA:
is running a vast organized disinformation campaign here
is outnumbered by gun control supporters
is the Keyser Soze of politics
is not in sync with most gun owners"

I can't think of any more at the moment. Feel free to add your own!

[friendly_iconoclast]

31. Just like law-abiding drivers, law-abiding computer owners, law-abiding protestors, et cetera...

See how that works?

Tell ya what- If you like the idea of "precrime prevention", why don't you set an example and just give DHS admin status and telnet access into your computer?

After all, if you have nothing to hide you ahve nothing to worry about...

[TPaine7]

32. I am forced to agree; that's a solid point.

We do not get to retroactively exclude people from ranks of the law abiding, and then act as if our classification is meaningful. That would be like claiming no police officers murder because murder convictions always cost them their badges, whereupon they are no longer police.

This is one of the weakest gun rights arguments.

If this guy had no criminal record and was legally entitled to own weapons, he was law-abiding as I use the term.

(I do not know that this guy actually was law abiding prior to this shooting; my point is strictly addressed to the logical issue.)

[HALO141]

37. In a press conference

The Sheriff said they had been unable to find any criminal history on the perp. It is very, very odd for someone to go from 0 to double murderer in one jump.

[sylvi]

34. Well, this can't be true

I keep reading that one can't identify who the bad guy is in a space the size of a movie theater. How the hell could anyone do it from 150 yds. away?