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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 10:59 PM Jan 2016

Bernie Sanders Defends Obama's Planned Executive Action On Gun Control

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) came out in support of President Barack Obama’s plan to bypass Congress and tighten rules on gun ownership through executive action.

“I would prefer that we could have bipartisan support, but the truth is Republicans are not interested in doing anything about gun safety,” Sanders, a 2016 Democratic presidential candidate, told CNN’s “State of the Union” on Sunday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-obama-gun-control_568935b2e4b0b958f65be793
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Bernie Sanders Defends Obama's Planned Executive Action On Gun Control (Original Post) SecularMotion Jan 2016 OP
Smart politics hack89 Jan 2016 #1
No, just honest commitment to a position he has long held. daybranch Jan 2016 #5
Do se know what the EO will attempt to enforce? Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #2
might be able to issue a clarification Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #3
I am in favor of UBCs. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #4
I personally am not opposed to the EOs TeddyR Jan 2016 #6
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #7
They're not supposed to have an impact DonP Jan 2016 #8
The problem I see is that an EO such as this Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #9
Oh hell yes DonP Jan 2016 #10

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
5. No, just honest commitment to a position he has long held.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 08:03 AM
Jan 2016

Bernie gets it, commonsense measures supported by the majority of our citizens- we call that Democratic Socialism, or Democracy , don't you know? It ain't politics, it is standing up for democracy. Bernie did not have to check some poll to know what he believes. Go Bernie!

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
2. Do se know what the EO will attempt to enforce?
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 11:36 PM
Jan 2016

I saw on CNN something about redefining what a gun 'dealer' is. How many guns will a person have to sell to be defined as a gun dealer under this EO?

As I understand it, the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act took away specific. numbers about a private citizen selling a few firearms. Can a president issue an EO that is in direct conflict with a law passed by congress?

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
4. I am in favor of UBCs.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 12:00 AM
Jan 2016

However, a UBC law needs to allow for short term transfers without a background check, or sales between family members.

I received a Ruger MkII as a birthday present. My brother bought me a shotgun on sale from a gun dealer (I paid him.) I bought a handgun from another brother. It is already illegal for these purchases if I was prohibited from owning/possessing firearms.

It seems that this EO might be a backdoor way of requiring background checks. Again, I am not opposed to background checks, but I wonder how this proposed EO will be enforced, assuming it survives any court decisions.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
6. I personally am not opposed to the EOs
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 06:49 PM
Jan 2016

Although Dems applauding this shouldn't complain when a future republican president enacts EOs, but setting that aside a lot of my conservative co-workers/friends are already yelling about President Obama "violating the Second Amendment" or "coming to take your guns" and those are the misrepresentations that Republicans are going to use against Hillary and congressional candidates during the general election here in Virginia and in states like North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Colorado and Oregon. I'm concerned that the EOs will have next to no impact on gun violence and will ultimately damage the party this November.

Response to TeddyR (Reply #6)

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
8. They're not supposed to have an impact
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 07:03 PM
Jan 2016

Then, IMHO when nothing changes, they can demand more gun control of a harsher nature. 'To "just save one life". Then we can work on reducing the Interstate speed limit to 5 mph "just to save one life".

My challenge is, can anyone demanding UBCs cite an example of a crime/mass shooting etc. in the last 10 years where they didn't already pass a NICS background check? Or where a BG check might have stopped the crime?

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
9. The problem I see is that an EO such as this
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 08:50 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Mon Jan 4, 2016, 09:31 PM - Edit history (1)

will not have much impact on reducing crime, but it could likely have an impact on elections.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
10. Oh hell yes
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:22 PM
Jan 2016

You couldn't ask for a better example of style over substance.

Unless there's something hidden between the lines in the press release, I don't see how this will have any impact on crime, criminals or any one with mental issues that might do a mass shooting.

But I guarantee that we'll all be hearing about this well into November at the national, state and even local level.

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