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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 07:31 AM Dec 2015

How the gun lobby outsmarted itself and helped engineer its big Supreme Court defeat Monday

One of the rude awakenings of the mass shootings in Aurora, Colo.; Newtown, Conn., and San Bernardino, Calif., was, as the Highland Park, Ill., City Council said in 2013, that gun violence on a large scale “is not limited to urban settings, but is also, tragically, in many suburban and small town locations as well.”

But that wasn’t entirely why Highland Park was in such a rush on June 26 of that year to enact a ban on assault weapons and large capacity magazines. It was “sprinting” to pass a law, as the Chicago Tribune said at the time, because the gun lobby and gun rights supporters in the state capital had forced its hand. At its urging, the Illinois legislature gave the cities and towns of the state 10 days to pass assault-weapon and other gun legislation before barring such laws entirely at the local level, a preemption strategy long backed by the National Rifle Association. It was a now-or-never situation, and Highland Park, along with other towns faced with that 10-day window, took advantage before it shut, passing the law in a rush.

And in part because of that maneuver, gun rights proponents suffered a serious setback Monday when the Supreme Court let stand Highland Park’s law and an appeals court ruling upholding it, giving a green legal light, or perhaps a yellow one, to other cities and towns to enact their own ordinances if so inclined politically.

While the court issued no ruling and set no precedent when it acted, the National Rifle Association had said in its own submission to the court that it was “critical” for the court to take the case and reverse the appeals court.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/08/how-the-gun-lobby-outsmarted-itself-and-brought-about-its-big-supreme-court-defeat-monday/
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How the gun lobby outsmarted itself and helped engineer its big Supreme Court defeat Monday (Original Post) SecularMotion Dec 2015 OP
As the article says, "While the court issued no ruling and set no precedent" S_B_Jackson Dec 2015 #1
So do I need to buy another AR or two? ileus Dec 2015 #2
What big defeat? GGJohn Dec 2015 #3

S_B_Jackson

(906 posts)
1. As the article says, "While the court issued no ruling and set no precedent"
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 09:14 AM
Dec 2015

in denying certoriari, it seems that gun control mavens cannot help but insert their own pet interpretations.

The fact is that the matter is in flux following the 2008 ruling in Heller and 2010's McDonald ruling and a reasonable court may find that the time simply is not appropriate for them to enter a new decision. In Illinois, for instance, there is a bill pending in the state legislature which would impose a state-preemption of local gun control ordinances with no municipal or county ordinances allowed which exceed state standards and which would invalidate Highland Park's ordinance completely.

Essentially, nothing has changed as a result of the USSC's non-ruling.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
2. So do I need to buy another AR or two?
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 09:19 AM
Dec 2015

I was thinking 4 was enough until I read this bit of awful news.


Now I see an opportunity to make some cash when the ban talk heats up.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
3. What big defeat?
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 09:19 AM
Dec 2015

All the court did was basically say this is a state's issue, which is correct.
Jeeez, gun control org. are so desperate for a win that they'll spin anything to look good.

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