"Many Circumventing Colorado High-Capacity Magazine Ban"

[krispos42]

Many Circumventing Colorado High-Capacity Magazine Ban

DENVER (CBS4)- A CBS4 Investigation has found Coloradans are circumventing the state’s controversial ban on high capacity gun magazines in numerous ways both basic and clever.

“I’m not surprised at all,” said Weld County Sheriff John Cooke, after viewing the results of the CBS4 Investigation.

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At a northern Colorado gun show, a seller displayed an entire table full of 30 round magazines that had been “retrofitted” to hold 15 rounds and comply with the controversial law.

The seller was asked if anyone would care if a buyer removed the modification and turned the magazine back into a high capacity unit.

“No, but I gotta be careful about how I say things because they would love nothing more than to make me a poster child so I’m very careful on how I say things.”

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http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/10/30/many-circumventing-colorado-high-capacity-magazine-ban/

This does not even address the common practice of taping magazines together in groups of two out more.

So.... Will it be worth losing the Senate over?

[Duckhunter935]

1. another feel good law that does nothing but

hurt Democrats and makes the pro-controller side look silly. Unenforceable is correct. I buy a lot of my USGI mags as parts. I prefer 20 rounders though.

[Lurks Often]

2. For that matter nothing prevents them from driving to an adjoining state

and buying them there. If you are a Massachusetts or Connecticut resident all you have to do is drive to RI, NH, VT or ME and you can buy magazines that hold more then your state law allows easily.

The same applies to Maryland, New York, New Jersey, Illinois or California for that matter, all of them have neighboring states that don't have the stupid, useless magazine ban limits.

[virginia mountainman]

3. They where warned...THEY WHERE REPEATEDLY WARNED..

Now they must deal with the consequences of pissing so many voters off..

Just to remind you..

1. Senators were recalled...

2. Vast majority of sheriffs in the state hate it, and will not enforce it..

3. No one has been (or will be if they have half a brain) prosecuted for breaking the law.. (no sir, I have had these 30 round magazines for years.)

4. Ran a company (and supporting businesses out of state)

5. So easily to circumvent the law that a child could do it with common tools

6. Not a single issue getting them freely and cheaply from nearby states. Or even having them mailed in

7. Effectively neutered a really good Democratic presidential candidate... Actually exposing him as a pander is a good thing for the rest of us. He practically has zero chance of national office now, unless he moves to Chicago.

In the end, all they did was chew on their own boots.

Now, let me ask again, was it worth it??

[beevul]

4. I wouldn't expect an answer.

Though if they were honest and talking, Id bet they'd say it was worth it.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

6. "Id bet they'd say it was worth it."

I'd be interested to see the metrics that would lead them to such a conclusion.

[beevul]

11. The amount if irritation...

The amount if irritation expressed by people they see as opponents, I expect, is the yardstick they'd use.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

5. "Now they must deal with the consequences of pissing so many voters off.. "

What is particularly galling is the decidedly undemocratic nature in which the law was passed. Witnesses were shut-out, rape survivors were publically humiliated and every procedural gimmick available was employed to push the bill though in the face of the public outcry.

The PEOPLE have "voted" and they nullified this law. Democracy wins.

Too bad it came as a loss for Democrats.

[otohara]

12. #1 - Dem Senators Regained Pro-Gun Seats 2014

#2 - Those Sheriffs will shoot you in an instant if you're black have a gun or no gun.
#3 - People with brains don't need guns and therefore won't break any laws
#4 - Ran a company out of state with a couple hundred employees who chose not to go to Texas or where ever hell hole they decide to make their murder-clips. Meanwhile 10,000 new jobs because of legal marijuana.
#5 - Speaking of children...they keep getting killed by guns due to their irresponsible gun-nut parents.
#6 - Drive to Wyoming if you're planning the next mass murder or one of them survivalists.
#7 - What presidential candidate are you talking about - and why mention Chicago? Denver is much like Chicago.

It was worth it yes, make them drive out of my state. - hell maybe they'll move to your miserable state.

[DonP]

13. "Those grapes were probably sour anyway ..."

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So winning back 2 seats was a win for gun control. But somehow losing the entire Colorado and US Senate was not a loss for gun control?

You have a strange way of looking at things and a very rude attitude to other DU member you don't agree with. But it's about what we have come to expect from you and your ilk.

Oh wait, I forgot. Tuesday was a big win for Mom's Demand Action, not for Dems but for Bloomberg's minions. We know that because Shannon Watts told us in a video press release ... that Bloomie bought and paid for, so it must be true.

[friendly_iconoclast]

15. "But somehow losing the entire Colorado and US Senate was not a loss for gun control?"

That's the third time (that I know of) that this has been mentioned, and so far
those touting the 2 seats regained have studiously avoided discussing it...

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

14. re: "Speaking of children...they keep getting killed...blah, blah..."

And we all know it takes a minimum of 16 shots to kill a child, so this law is important.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

16. #1 The GOP took the state senate and obliterated Democratic control of the state house.

#2 Baseless but assuming it to be true how does being disarmed improve one's treatment at the hands of racists?

#3 100 million gun owners and you reflexively assume they're all criminals

#4 You just have a nasty attitude

#5 An irresponsible shooting only requires 1 bullet, a matter which this Pyrrhic victory of a law does nothing to address.

Not that "OMG! The children!" ever seems to be put forth with any degree of sincerity once it is noted alcohol destroys more children annually by orders of magnitude.

#6 Why would a determined mass murder confine their actions to only the state in which the purchased a given implement?

#7 Chicago is mentioned because it is the archetype for the anti-rights regimes yet by its self produces nearly 5% of the nation's gun homicides.

[ileus]

7. This is what you get when feel gooders ignore their voters to promote an

agenda.

Basically the 1%ers rammed this down the good citizens throats. Hopefully the people can take their rights from a handful of regressives sometime in the near future.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

17. I am loathe to call them Democrats as "demo" means "of the people."

The people were deliberately and arrogantly ignored.

[Eleanors38]

8. "get around the law," "mockery," "cross state lines:"

The same ways all standard orthodox prohibitions are defeated. Prohibitions aren't for the public good, but are to make the banner "feel good" by punishing some ginned-up "other."

[DonP]

9. Now they are all just "Loopholes" that have to be closed

Idiots rush to pass legislation, with no input from anyone that actually knows what they're taking about.

Then they either declare their stupidity is full of "loopholes" that must be closed "for the children" or ... quietly let things unofficially lapse, like the 7 round magazine limit n NY.

But they usually do the quiet withdrawal without all the fanfare and high profile press events they had when they passed the stupidity.

[michaelhr]

10. Reality

Well said. Idiots who could not tell a firearm from a french fry.