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Do you blow air between the meat and the skin? BainsBane Jan 2014 #1
The one time that I chose to make it, that's what I did. Gormy Cuss Jan 2014 #8
My advice is to go buy one at the Asian market Major Nikon Jan 2014 #2
LOL 1000words Jan 2014 #3
The really good places use special techniques and ovens that are hard to replicate at home Major Nikon Jan 2014 #4
I kind of figured as much 1000words Jan 2014 #5
Duck fat is even better than bacon fat Major Nikon Jan 2014 #6
Thanks! 1000words Jan 2014 #7
The Cook's Illustrated cookbook mentions boiling it first bif Feb 2014 #9
This recipe looked pretty good bif Feb 2014 #10
It sure does 1000words Feb 2014 #11

BainsBane

(53,165 posts)
1. Do you blow air between the meat and the skin?
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 09:27 AM
Jan 2014

I have noticed at a lot of Western recipes omit that step, which is supposed to be the secret to the crispy skin. I have never made it myself. I'm skilled at eating it, however.

http://www.vietworldkitchen.com/blog/2010/02/homemade-peking-duck-how-to-blow-up-a-duck.html

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
8. The one time that I chose to make it, that's what I did.
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 10:20 PM
Jan 2014

The whole experience was so labor-intensive that I just buy it now.

Major Nikon

(36,843 posts)
2. My advice is to go buy one at the Asian market
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 11:19 AM
Jan 2014

That's what I do. It's just too much trouble to do them at home.

When I cook duck at home I quarter it, steam it first which cooks the duck and renders much of the fat, then I brown it in a cast iron skillet. I believe they do something similar with Peking Duck by either steaming it or boiling it first. The outer skin is not going to brown up until most of the subcutaneous fat renders. So basically you render the fat first, then brown.

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
3. LOL
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:20 PM
Jan 2014

Yah ... considering I live in Chinatown (Portland) it would be even easier to go to a restaurant.

Thanks for the tips ...

Major Nikon

(36,843 posts)
4. The really good places use special techniques and ovens that are hard to replicate at home
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:47 PM
Jan 2014

I've been to the Quanjude in Peking and had it there and it was incredible so I wanted to do it at home. I asked a friend of mine who is Chinese and a great cook how to do it. He gave me the same advice. I will make duck at home, just not Peking duck. Any waterfowl is more challenging than land fowl because they have more fat and in different places, so you just can't use the same techniques to cook them.

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
5. I kind of figured as much
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:51 PM
Jan 2014

Part of why I like to cook it, is for the fat. I do a duck for the holidays and use the fat to cook with the rest of the year. Damn, duck fat is tasty!

Edited to add: The steaming is a good idea, btw. I steam chicken wings before baking them, and the skin is perfectly crisped.

Major Nikon

(36,843 posts)
6. Duck fat is even better than bacon fat
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 03:01 PM
Jan 2014

It's like liquid gold.

Here's a pretty good recipe for making duck from the NY Times. It's basically the same way I do it, except rather than leaving the duck intact I quarter it and brown it in a cast iron skillet. The key is to steam it first, which also allows you to save the rendered duck fat.

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/03/21/nyregion/food-no-more-hair-dryers-steam-duck-before-roasting.html

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
7. Thanks!
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 03:06 PM
Jan 2014

And, I agree: Duck fat > bacon fat. (Sorry bacon ... you knows I loves ya!)

bif

(22,958 posts)
9. The Cook's Illustrated cookbook mentions boiling it first
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 04:40 PM
Feb 2014

As I recall. I'll have to look it up and get back to you.

bif

(22,958 posts)
10. This recipe looked pretty good
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 04:43 PM
Feb 2014
 

1000words

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11. It sure does
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 05:09 PM
Feb 2014

It appears steaming is the way to go. Until now, I've only cooked duck for the holidays, but now I want to give it a go.

Thanks for posting.

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