Making a Murderer - Netflix's new true "crime" documentary series is mind blowing!

[bettyellen]

Fans of HBO's The Jinx or the podcast Serial will love it.

The subject of “Making” is a Wisconsin man who was convicted of rape and other crimes in 1985, served 18 years in prison but was exonerated by new DNA evidence. He could have been paroled many times, but refused to confess to a crime he did not commit. Two years after his release, he was charged with murder in a new case.

It starts a little slow, with an in depth look at the Wisconsin farm community, the Avery family and their cousins. Poor Steve has a low IQ and a family from the wrong side of the tracks, when his exoneration exposes massive local corruption in the justice system. A huge payout is expected from his town and officers themselves (insurance refuses to pay) but things go quickly and horrible wrong. Compelling and infuriating, don't want to spoil a bit for any of you! I have 6 1/2 more episodes, so careful with the spoilers.

[NV Whino]

1. Just added it to my queue

Thanks for the info. Netflix was a little sparse.

[bettyellen]

2. you're welcome!

[PasadenaTrudy]

3. Streaming?

Hopefully. Sounds good!

[bettyellen]

4. Yes!! Just came out Friday. Very sad stuff.

[octoberlib]

5. Omg , I'm watching it right now!

Let me just say, I feel so bad for Steven Avery and his family.

[bettyellen]

8. I binged all of it Sunday and Monday.

[NV Whino]

6. Wow!

I'm about midway in this. What an incredible miscarriage of justice.

What they did to that poor kid is abominable.

[bettyellen]

7. the nephew? yes. that poor kid, his own lawyers doing that to him is horrendous.

[NV Whino]

9. Just finished it

What an absolute travesty.

And no one ever investigated the boyfriend and the mysterious missing phone messages.

[bettyellen]

10. It is a very odd case. It does seem like they found the car and moved it there....

but I wonder what happened to the woman. Did they approach her to set him up and she said she would rat them out? Or was it the caller? Why would the brother erase messages and not have to answer to that?

[NV Whino]

11. They glossed over the entire boyfriend/brother situation.

Here's my theory. She had broken up with the boyfriend. She kept getting calls that she didn't answer. I think the boyfriend stalked her and killed her. The old "if I can't have her, nobody can have her" routine. I think she was killed somewhere, moved in the car and burned in the quarry.

From there it gets complicated, and I don't have a clear timeline. But, I think the BF saw an opportunity when the news reported Steven (with all his history) as a suspect. I have an idea those bones were moved to the pit at that time. The BF thinking that would be enough to implicate Steve.

Complicit in all this is the sheriff's department. I think they found the car and moved it to the salvage yard. The key was in the car and later planted in Steve's room. I think they also planted the blood. They may or may not have had anything to do with the bones in the pit.

The brother was also complicit by erasing or allowing the BF to erase phone messages, that apparently the BF had previously investigated online.

There are some gaps in this theory, but I do believe the sherrif's department, the boyfriend and the brother were all involved in her death and coverup.

[bettyellen]

12. I just read one of the jurors was the father of a local sheriff and a county court worker.

that shit is crazy.
I wonder about the ex-BF too.

[NV Whino]

13. Wow!

[bettyellen]

14. Yep, and that he an just 1-2 others were the only guilty votes, and they refused to budge

or discuss the evidence. I don't know how anyone can turn that many not guilty votes around. I really think the other juries were threatened or at least intimidated by him or others.

[NV Whino]

15. Yeah, and look who's governor in Wisconsin these days

Not a chance in hell of a pardon or commuted sentence.

[bettyellen]

16. Unless they find another perp somehow, Steven is cooked. And they sure are not looking....

although I saw on Reddit there is a theory about a "German" man who's own wife reported suspicious things about this time.
She said they are denying she ever gave a report. Scary stuff.

[NV Whino]

17. Here's an interesting development

Yelp, no less.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017317935

[Rebkeh]

18. The creators will be on Colbert tonight

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027523611

[bettyellen]

19. Wow thanks for letting us know!

[Rebkeh]

20. Anytime

[Logical]

21. It is great. The poor Brendan Dassey kid got railroaded. Never trust the cops. Good advice. nt

[Politicub]

22. How long did it take for you to get hooked by it?

I've tried getting into it a couple of times, and it's just not something that's catching fire with me just yet. Still giving it a chance. I like the genre.

[bettyellen]

23. Mostly by the third. but the forth was killer. Wish I had taken screen shots of the guide to the

players involved, was thinking I need to go back and watch some of the first couple again to sort it all out.
When his nephew comes into the picture it gets really chilling. You see the over reach in full effect.