For fans of highly speculative theories

[noise]

http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/index.htm

[timtom]

1. Excellent!

The most bizarre CT of them all (currently, that is).

[defendandprotect]

4. +1 --

[dixiegrrrrl]

2. I believe it was nominated for the Pulitzer for Fiction,

but did not win.

[noise]

5. One of my favorite aspects

is the reporting of al Qaeda's sophisticated documents division. The report mentions that Yemeni members of al Qaeda couldn't get US visas because of concern that Yemeni citizens would illegally overstay their visas. If only al Qaeda had a sophisticated document forging division. Sort of like the one previously detailed in the report.

[dixiegrrrrl]

3. I found the parent link to your link, it is chockful of treasures!

The Cyber Cemetery, where Government docs go to die
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/browse.htm


and I have been downloading for safekeeping pdf files.
So far, I have stuff on the WPMD issues
The Deepwater Horizon Final Report
Bush's Soc Sec. Commission Report
Obama's National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform final report
and lots of other goodies.

These WILL vanish sooner or later off the web, and already revisionist history is being published about the topics.

and, the GAO charges 12.00 or more for each paper report.

Pls accept a HUGE cyber hug for linking to this site.

[Remember Me]

9. OMG, we could have a DU Wikileaks!!

LOL. Let us know what you find.

[dixiegrrrrl]

10. There is much much there, I recommend poking around.

Lots of material, suitable for many tastes.

[Ace Acme]

11. CIA Inspector General's Report about the Contras' Drug Enterprise? nt

[PufPuf23]

6. I read the 9-11 Report and have a 1st Edition to the public hard copy.

The 9-11 Report document describes a highly speculative and incomplete theory.

I cannot find a satisfactory and reasonable explanation of the 9-11 attacks.

[Ace Acme]

12. Oh, "They hate our freedoms" isn't good enough for you?

Remember, at the time the prevailing talking point in defense of the Bush Plutocracy was to attack the
critics, claiming they were motivated by jealousy or envy.

[T S Justly]

7. Debunked wackdoodle (nt)

[William Seger]

8. That isn't a "conspiracy theory"

... which, thanks to "conspiracy theorists" themselves, doesn't just mean a theory about a conspiracy. "Conspiracy theory" is a term that has come to mean a highly implausible theory about a conspiracy that isn't supported by any credible evidence. A "conspiracy theorist" is someone who claims that all the evidence we have was faked and all the "real" evidence must have been covered up -- a position totally immune to rationality. Your personal incredulity falls far short of making the 9/11 report fit that definition.

[Ace Acme]

13. By your definition very few conspiracy theories are conspiracy theories

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... and almost none of the conspiracy theorists are conspiracy theorists.

RFK, JFK, MLK--none are implausible and all have evidence.

9/11 LIHOP--plausible and plenty of evidence.
9/11 MIHOP--plausible and lesser evidende.
WTC demolition--plausible and lesser evidence.

By a more reasonable definition--a conspiracy theory being a theory that involves a conspiracy--the 9/11 Commission Report is certainly a theory about 19 terrorists and some unknown number of affiliates who conspired to fly hijacked airliners into buildings.

Thanks for demonstrating how loaded and lacking in objectivity and useless (except as a blunt instrument) the term "conspiracy theory" has become. That its implicit adjective "wacko" is so necessary to the current meaning that it need not even be overtly applied.

[noise]

14. The 28 pages of classified info relating to Saudi facilitation of the plot

Based on what we know of the hidden pages the 9/11 Commission report basically contradicts the 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry report. The key point here is that we don't know for sure because US officials are abusing classification powers to keep the info secret. Classification laws are not intended so that government officials can brag about torture programs without being called out as sick fucks. By that I mean the secrecy enables all the fearmongering claims to work their magic. You can make all sorts of claims when the public is prevented from understanding why 9/11 wasn't prevented.