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Wicked Blue

(5,832 posts)
Wed May 3, 2023, 08:28 PM May 2023

We've all heard about subliminal messaging, right?

Subliminal messaging in advertising has almost certainly been honed to a fine art since the early days of placing suggestive shapes in the ice cubes of drink ads.

Given the terrifying increase in gun massacres, I wonder whether subliminal messaging is being implemented in a way that encourages people to buy and stock guns, particularly the semi-automatic kinds. And whether this messaging makes susceptible individuals believe that using those guns to slaughter others will solve their problems.

There have to be reasons why so many people suddenly are using guns to kill for the most baseless reasons. There are mass shootings in the U.S. nearly every day. Other countries - at least those at peace - don't experience even a tiny fraction of the civilian death toll we have.

I'm sure there are many factors involved, but I would not be surprised to learn that internet sites and perhaps some right wing news organizations run undetectable persuasive tactics to boost levels of hate, rage and willingness to kill. The purpose is to spread fear and chaos ahead of whatever factions hope to stage a takeover of our government.

Any thoughts?

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We've all heard about subliminal messaging, right? (Original Post) Wicked Blue May 2023 OP
You're making it too complicated. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2023 #1
I have been wondering as well if we are missing a variable or two in the shootings. Irish_Dem May 2023 #2
Lead in drinking water... SpamWyzer May 2023 #7
Yes we live in a very toxic soup. Irish_Dem May 2023 #8
Don't ignore narcissistic injury to stupid people and the resultant trauma bond bucolic_frolic May 2023 #3
I have been firmly convinced... 2naSalit May 2023 #4
Whatever the form of the messaging is, is wasted on those who are not drawn by its appeal. taxi May 2023 #5
Absolutely! Tesha May 2023 #6
The NRA conventions are scheduled several years in advance, but Captain Zero Sep 2023 #9

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
1. You're making it too complicated.
Wed May 3, 2023, 08:32 PM
May 2023

The steady increase in using guns comes from things like movies, where people use guns to solve their problems, and the steady coverage of the shootings that do happen. The absolute refusal of gun apologists to consider limiting guns or gun ownership. Doesn't matter how many little kids are murdered in school, or concert goers at an outdoor venue, or a family gathered together to watch TV. They will never restrict guns.

No need for subliminal messaging. The messaging is overt.

Irish_Dem

(47,053 posts)
2. I have been wondering as well if we are missing a variable or two in the shootings.
Wed May 3, 2023, 08:46 PM
May 2023

The men in the US have gone crazy and out of control.

I guess the propaganda and validity of guns could do it.

But are we missing something?

I know subliminal messaging was very popular decades ago.
I actually knew someone who did these graphics for an advertising company.

 

SpamWyzer

(385 posts)
7. Lead in drinking water...
Wed May 17, 2023, 09:43 AM
May 2023

poor quality food, crappy education, lack of really meaningful connections to others, unsatisfying jobs and the disposability of all things under capitalism, and the constant barrage of lies spewed daily can produce the madness we see all around.

Irish_Dem

(47,053 posts)
8. Yes we live in a very toxic soup.
Wed May 17, 2023, 09:52 AM
May 2023

Lead has lowed IQ.

As have other toxins we are exposed to on a daily basis.

Then yes poor education and relentless propaganda.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
3. Don't ignore narcissistic injury to stupid people and the resultant trauma bond
Wed May 3, 2023, 08:49 PM
May 2023

Internal strength eviscerated, taught to worship narcissistic leaders to the point of moral and financial bankruptcy, anger directed against demonized political opponents, guns as a solution to anger and insecurity, stir the rage daily with a talk show home fryer, and you have loose cannons ready to blaze on any given day.

The trauma bond is they're being flattered, protected, energized at the same time they're being used, exploited, denigrated, disrespected. They lose their minds to demi-gods hell bent on power and money. I wonder if these shooters feel on a gut level that they are only trying to do their part in the power grab.

2naSalit

(86,604 posts)
4. I have been firmly convinced...
Wed May 3, 2023, 09:07 PM
May 2023

For years, that fux is using it for certain. I suspect that FB uses it and probably others. Fux has used it to create the zombies that are the magats.

taxi

(1,896 posts)
5. Whatever the form of the messaging is, is wasted on those who are not drawn by its appeal.
Wed May 3, 2023, 09:44 PM
May 2023

The message to have firearms as part of everyday life, a symbol, a display of power, or protection is only heard by those who want to believe it. People who have grown up around guns, having hunted for food, practiced on ranges, shot skeet, entered turkey shoots, and used rifles and guns as an activity with friends have left their weapons behind when they were no longer needed. It is difficult to believe that subliminal messaging could convince someone to act against their own true beliefs, and as others here state there is no need for subliminal messaging.

It is when everyone who is anyone in your inner circle of friends believe that bigger, faster, more powerful, and more numerous is good then you are a small fish in a big pond. Advertisers know this. Salespeople know this. This is what is seen and heard no matter how old or young. Be somebody. Don’t be a sissy. Show the world that you have what it takes to squeeze the trigger and prove you’re not afraid.

People who truly understand the responsibilities and risks of gun ownership may choose not to own or keep one for any variety of reasons – bad luck included. Look no further than the shooting death on a movie set by what was supposed to be a prop gun. That message should have been strong enough to convince people that firearms are dangerous, but instead the ad hominem attacks captured the news cycles.

Tesha

(20,854 posts)
6. Absolutely!
Wed May 3, 2023, 10:21 PM
May 2023

Remember directly after Columbine that the NRA decided to hold their convention not far away?

I’m sure it’s part of their “everyone needs their guns, especially now” and we see this over and over. Shootings always are followed by a spike in purchases.

Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
9. The NRA conventions are scheduled several years in advance, but
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 04:49 AM
Sep 2023

in the month before they show up there is often a major mass shooting before their convention.

Before their convention hits town they always put up lots of billboards around the city of their convention touting second amendment shit. Then there is a shooting. Then their convention occurs, and BTW guns are not allowed at their convention.

Coincidences?
Go Figure.

NRA Conventions:
2023 Indianapolis (completed)
2024 Dallas
2025 Georgia, couldn't find a city listed.



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