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Gurgen4

(39 posts)
Sat Apr 14, 2012, 01:56 PM Apr 2012

Former Nazi Soldiers Gunter Grass Lashes Out Again Israel, Yet Again

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/154722#.T4m1AKuo9-M

Gunter Grass has criticized Israel's decision to ban him from entering the country, comparing it to actions taken by the former communist East Germany and Myanmar.



Grass had prided himself on being the 'moral compass' of the German people, pressing them to deal with the crimes of their past. In 2006, however, he admitted that he had been a member of Hitler's notorious Waffen SS, a late revelation that undermined his authority and reliability.
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Former Nazi Soldiers Gunter Grass Lashes Out Again Israel, Yet Again (Original Post) Gurgen4 Apr 2012 OP
IsraelNationalNews is a right-wing unreliable site LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #1
Check the Profile. Behind the Aegis Apr 2012 #2
Thanks! Good to know. LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #3
That one's a mystery to me azurnoir Apr 2012 #4
H&M ? nt King_David Apr 2012 #9
help and meta-dicussion Mosby Apr 2012 #18
As is shown by the unproven accusation that Grass is a Nazi. aranthus Apr 2012 #8
"Repeat troll, banned multiple times for racism/anti-semitism." Scurrilous Apr 2012 #5
I think this was a test of sorts but azurnoir Apr 2012 #6
The games people play on this site oberliner Apr 2012 #12
To claim he's the moral compass of Germany and WASN'T a Nazi would be a lie. Germany did that. saras Apr 2012 #7
what exactly is israel hiding....that they have to admit to.... pelsar Apr 2012 #10
"When Israel admits what they are..." holdencaufield Apr 2012 #11
Count me in... jimmie Apr 2012 #13
I am 'in' too, explain to us all, tell us what 'they' are doing? nt King_David Apr 2012 #14
They are .... Joooz! and they are....... meti57b Apr 2012 #15
Well it is ok then King_David Apr 2012 #16
Is this the Gates of Hell? aranthus Apr 2012 #17

LeftishBrit

(41,208 posts)
1. IsraelNationalNews is a right-wing unreliable site
Sat Apr 14, 2012, 02:48 PM
Apr 2012

But Israel, like any country, has a right to let in or exclude anyone it wishes. I think they're over-reacting. But so is he- because being refused entry by a country to which you have no real connection is exactly the same thing as being imprisoned and tortured by your own country's ruling regime. Not.

aranthus

(3,385 posts)
8. As is shown by the unproven accusation that Grass is a Nazi.
Sat Apr 14, 2012, 07:51 PM
Apr 2012

Grass is, however, continuing to prove that he is a mendacious fool. Both sides need to give it a rest.

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
5. "Repeat troll, banned multiple times for racism/anti-semitism."
Sat Apr 14, 2012, 03:22 PM
Apr 2012

I had him pegged as the return of vminfla/DUIC. I guess I was wrong.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
7. To claim he's the moral compass of Germany and WASN'T a Nazi would be a lie. Germany did that.
Sat Apr 14, 2012, 04:59 PM
Apr 2012

That's his whole POINT, in a way. If you judge EVERYONE on the worst thing they ever did in their life, then the fundamentalists are right, and we all deserve to spend eternity in hell.

When Israel admits what they are, and what they're doing, the whole process will move along a lot better. The Germans learned that denial doesn't work.

pelsar

(12,283 posts)
10. what exactly is israel hiding....that they have to admit to....
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 12:49 AM
Apr 2012

please enlighten me..... (this should be very good...)

and what exactly are those israelis.....

just off the top of my head, isn't the society that doesn't have a free press or free speach the one that is doing the hiding?

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
11. "When Israel admits what they are..."
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 03:45 AM
Apr 2012

Oo! Oo! Tell me, what are they? Say it! You know you wanna say it.

If you make it good, I promise no one will even flag it. It would be nice to have a little honesty here for a change.

 

jimmie

(318 posts)
13. Count me in...
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 10:27 AM
Apr 2012

What EXACTLY are they and what ARE they doing?

Other than being a democracy with freedom of speech, freedom of the press , freedom of religion , and freedom of assembly, pleeease don't leave us hanging.

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