Israel/Palestine
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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/154722#.T4m1AKuo9-MGrass had prided himself on being the 'moral compass' of the German people, pressing them to deal with the crimes of their past. In 2006, however, he admitted that he had been a member of Hitler's notorious Waffen SS, a late revelation that undermined his authority and reliability.
LeftishBrit
(41,208 posts)But Israel, like any country, has a right to let in or exclude anyone it wishes. I think they're over-reacting. But so is he- because being refused entry by a country to which you have no real connection is exactly the same thing as being imprisoned and tortured by your own country's ruling regime. Not.
Behind the Aegis
(53,961 posts)LeftishBrit
(41,208 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)check H&M too
King_David
(14,851 posts)Mosby
(16,319 posts)aranthus
(3,385 posts)Grass is, however, continuing to prove that he is a mendacious fool. Both sides need to give it a rest.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)I had him pegged as the return of vminfla/DUIC. I guess I was wrong.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)he kind of showed himself in H&M
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I'll never understand it.
saras
(6,670 posts)That's his whole POINT, in a way. If you judge EVERYONE on the worst thing they ever did in their life, then the fundamentalists are right, and we all deserve to spend eternity in hell.
When Israel admits what they are, and what they're doing, the whole process will move along a lot better. The Germans learned that denial doesn't work.
pelsar
(12,283 posts)please enlighten me..... (this should be very good...)
and what exactly are those israelis.....
just off the top of my head, isn't the society that doesn't have a free press or free speach the one that is doing the hiding?
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)Oo! Oo! Tell me, what are they? Say it! You know you wanna say it.
If you make it good, I promise no one will even flag it. It would be nice to have a little honesty here for a change.
What EXACTLY are they and what ARE they doing?
Other than being a democracy with freedom of speech, freedom of the press , freedom of religion , and freedom of assembly, pleeease don't leave us hanging.
King_David
(14,851 posts)meti57b
(3,584 posts)eating cheeseburgers!
(Wikipedia)
King_David
(14,851 posts)Cos Pesach ended last night.
aranthus
(3,385 posts)Is that "Abandon all hope," in Hebrew?