Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumPalestinian youths shot dead on camera
http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2014/05/22/pkg-watson-4a-west-bank-teens-shot.cnn&video_referrer=http%3A%2F%2F972mag.com%2Ftruth-tapes-and-two-dead-palestinians%2F91215%2FWatch the IDF actually firing on the Palestinians.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)Those kids had it coming, and if you don't agree then you're an anti-Semite.
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)who is simply trying to impugn the fine reputation of the Israel defence forces. At least according to the diehard tryhards on jpost.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)It was caught on video. IDF shooting live rounds and 2 Palestinians dying from it.
But I guess it must be all lies.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)I guess it is easier to claim that news stories are lies and anti-semitism, but when you have actual video evidence then not so much.
Mosby
(16,394 posts)The guy that Cnn is claiming killed the first person was clearly shooting rubber bullets.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)but I was wrong my fellow DUers. They showed up after all.
Mosby
(16,394 posts)Standard M16:
M16 with rubber bullet barrel attachment:
Screen cap from video:
CNN claimed they matched up the shots from the two different videos but the last pic shows that the soldier was not firing live ammo.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)The IDF gets caught red-handed harassing, letting illegal settlers harass, standing by as illegal settlers attack, firing on unarmed Palestinians, firing on unarmed Palestinian school children, killing unarmed Palestinians and Palestinian school children...being caught on camera doing it.
And then the bloated excuse machine is rolled in as it has in the past.
"The IDF is the most moral army."
"It must have been the Palestinians who did it."
"The video has to have been forged."
"It's a conspiracy against Israel."
Then the CNN footage is released and the excuse changes.
"Those rifles were only for rubber coated bullets. Prove your point."
This is my point, and I do hope that it causes discomfort amongst the harbarist cheerleaders. I know it won't cause reflection since that would require a conscience.
The IDF kills Palestinians. That's a fact.
The IDF kills Children. That's a fact.
The IDF kills. That's a fact.
When it it gets caught killing it reverts to excuses instead of facts like any other group of thugs, and when that happens they need to be called on it.
Again to all passing DUers, take a look at the clip at 2 minutes. The IDF was firing at the Palestinians. They weren't alone. There were other IDF units in the area. Live was obviously used since two Palestinian youths appear to have been sent to the morgue.
For further reading.
http://www.btselem.org/releases/20140520_bitunya_killings_on_nakba_day
B'Tselem's initial findings on Nakba Day incident at Bitunya: grave suspicion that forces willfully killed two Palestinians, injured two others
http://www.jta.org/2014/05/21/news-opinion/united-states/us-and-un-call-for-nakba-day-shooting-probe
U.S., U.N. call for transparent probe of fatal Nakba Day shooting
From Secretary of State John Kerry.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/20/video-indicates-killed-palestinian-youths-no-threat-israeli-forces
The shootings, during a protest on Nakba Day last week, were already controversial and had been raised by the US secretary of state, John Kerry, in a statement.
The new details contradict the Israeli police and military account that no live rounds were fired during the demonstration and that the killings took place during a riot of some 200 youths who posed a threat to the lives of security forces.
But I could be wrong on all this since we all know that the IDF would never target a Palestinian.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/9877574/Israeli-soldier-posts-image-of-Arab-boys-head-in-crosshairs-on-Instagram.html
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)He's programmed for an endless loop, just repeating the same hateful propaganda over and over no matter how many times it's thoroughly disproven.
Just accept that his output has a boolean value of zero and write it off as a failed attempt to pass the Turing test.
(note to potential jurors: Google his username.)
King_David
(14,851 posts)Engagement is futile !