Israel demands PA prevent attacks by security personnel

[shira]

Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon said Monday that coordination between Israeli and PA security forces continues despite an attack on Sunday in which three soldiers were wounded by a Palestinian Authority security officer. “The issue was raised overnight in a meeting between our security officials and Palestinian security officials,” he told Israel Radio. “First of all, the’re distancing themselves from this – (these attacks) are not their policy — but we are certainly demanding explanations and oversight of the employees of various security services.” Ya’alon said that, on average, Palestinian security forces succeeded in foiling 20 percent of planned attacks against Israelis, while Israel was able to prevent 80%.

The Palestinian attacker, Amjad Sakari, 35, opened fire at an IDF checkpoint near Beit El in the West Bank, wounding three soldiers, two of them seriously. He was shot dead by soldiers at the scene. The defense minister listed a series of steps that have become more or less routine when Israeli security officials know where an attacker came from: “His village was locked down, and there is activity there (by Israeli security forces). We are taking all sorts of steps against terrorists, against their homes, their families – regarding permits to work inside Israel, and also against the village itself, with arrests etc.”

...Ya’alon dismissed a recent French initiative to restart peace talks, announced on Friday and rejected by Israeli officials almost immediately. France packaged the initiative with an ultimatum: If talks reach a dead end, France will unilaterally recognize a Palestinian state.

The defense minister, who said he has been dealing with the Palestinian issue for many years and at the highest levels of government, said the root of the struggle was Palestinian unwillingness to recognize a Jewish state of any size. “I’ve had enough of conferences, enough of ceremonies, enough of documents phrased by lawyers. At the end of the day it’s between us and them. Our policy is very clear: We don’t want to control them. It seems like they don’t want to end the conflict. The heart of this conflict is their unwillingness to recognize our existence in any borders,” Ya’alon said.

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http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-demands-pa-prevent-attacks-by-security-personnel/

[safeinOhio]

1. Will Israel recognize

A Palestine State? Stop taking homes and land? Until then, they are freedom fighters and not terrorist.

[shira]

2. So you support PA forces murdering random people?

Maybe the PA should have agreed to either one of the 2000 and 2008 offers that would have ended the occupation and settlements.

They rejected their own country, half of Jerusalem, etc...

Therefore, they have no right to murder innocents due to their preference of being occupied with settlements.

How am I wrong?

[safeinOhio]

4. The problem with your thinking is

That you lump a majority of them with a few crazies and there fore punish all by taking their home and land. There are very crazy right wingers on the Israelie side, settlers that stone children, destroy crops and are happy to take away homes and land. There are crazy Israelies that call for the deaths of all Arabs and say there will never be a land for them. So if. You wish to lump people together, then let's do it.

[shira]

6. Except that Hamas & the PA incite this terror vs. random Jews....

Hamas gives out candy. The PA rewards it by paying terrorist families more than the average Palestinian wage.

Try to find where Mahmoud Abbas has once condemned these atrocious attacks the past 3 months on random Jews.

One example.

Can't do it - right?

[safeinOhio]

7. Find where Bibi has ever tried to

find a solution and can't find another excuse to expand the Settlements.

I think there are problems on both sides. The extremist are in control.

[shira]

13. Actually, Bibi offered to leave 60% of the W.Bank unilaterally.....

....with the other 40% to be negotiated later.

Report: Abbas rejects offer of 60% of West Bank
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3879974,00.html

There's a solution that does just the opposite of maintaining occupation & expanding settlements.

[safeinOhio]

14. As I said

From the NYtimes

JERUSALEM — Under pressure on the eve of a surprisingly close election, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel on Monday doubled down on his appeal to right-wing voters, declaring definitively that if he was returned to office he would never establish a Palestinian state.

[shira]

16. Proof is in actions. Bibi offered to end 60% occupation, settlements in the W.Bank....

That would leave no occupation or settlements in both Gaza and most of the W.Bank.

Abbas said no because he prefers the occupation & settlements.

Realize that NO other occupied people would do that.

[safeinOhio]

18. Also he was refused a look at the map.

Was suppose to agree on a secret division of land.

[shira]

19. That was Olmert's offer. 100% deal after land swaps. I was talking Netanyahu. n/t

[King_David]

8. What rubbish...

Do you think the IS should be recognized? Are the Islamic state fighters freedom fighters? Or is it only applied to the Jewish state?
Killing Jewish civilians makes some barbaric act a freedom fighter?

Unadulterated shameful rubbish- shame on you.

[safeinOhio]

9. How many years of occupation, how much land taken every year,

how many olive trees burned? No shame on you.

[King_David]

12. What on earth has this got to do with the absolute nonsense you wrote in your post ?

[azurnoir]

3. No entity or government has the ability to control all of it's employees Israel doesn't nor does the

PA and the actual current position of the attacker may have been overstated as here it says "had been" as in past tense but more about him from NYT

The Palestinian, Amjad Sukari, also known as Amjad Abu Amar, 34, had worked as a bodyguard and driver for the Palestinian attorney general. Just hours before the attack, at a checkpoint near the Jewish settlement of Beit El, he posted on Facebook that “there is nothing worth living for on this earth as long as the occupation oppresses our souls and kills our brothers and sisters.” He added: “Everyday someone dies, I may be the next.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/01/world/middleeast/palestinian-officer-is-killed-after-attacking-three-israeli-soldiers.html?_r=1

[shira]

5. So let's see Abbas condemn this atrocious act. Where is it? Right - he approves of it. n/t

[safeinOhio]

10. Lets see Bibi give back some Settlements, at least

the illegal ones. Lets see some compensation for property taken. He does not want peace either, look at his statements before the elections and then recant after elected. How many have called for driving the Palestinians into the sea? There is evil on both sides. No more or less on either one. For every evil one can point out on the other side, there are equal ones on their own.

Why not be constructive and look for paths to peace, rather than looking for more reasons for conflict. There are many Jews on the left that are still calling for solutions and less conflict, same with the Palestinians. Let listen to their ideas and give their solutions a try.

[shira]

11. Bibi has nothing to do with it. Ask yourself why Abbas rejected the 2008 offer....

....which would have given the Palestinians a state, half-of-Jerusalem, a link between the W.Bank and Gaza, and an end to occupation and settlements.

Show me where another occupied people outright rejects their own state like the Palestinians do.

There is evil on both sides. No more or less on either one.

That's moral relativism & is itself evil.

Abbas incites & rewards the murder of innocents. When that happened to the Dawabshas & Abu Khdeirs, the Israeli government condemned each act in the harshest of terms.

There's no comparison between the 2 sides.

[azurnoir]

15. so not condemning means approving?

[shira]

17. Abbas incites, rewards it & has never once condemned these stabbings, car-rammings....

....from the past 4 months.

So yeah, he approves.

Why deny it & pretend otherwise?