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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 11:27 PM Jun 2015

Israeli leader turns on US Jewish journalists...for disloyalty and anti-semitism!

(Title shortened for length)

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/journalists-wieseltier-disloyalty

The wheels are really coming off the cart. The latest report from former Israeli ambassador Michael Oren’s forthcoming book is that he says Jewish journalists have a disproportionate role in American media (Surprise!) but they verge on anti-Semitism in their criticisms of Israel and its rightwing prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

You didn’t see this in the New York Times. No: Chemi Shalev has the story in Haaretz.

Israel’s former ambassador to the United States, Michael Oren, claims that Jewish journalists are largely responsible for American media’s anti-Israel coverage and the “double standard” it applies in its coverage of the Jewish state. Oren also writes that the antagonism towards Netanyahu shown by Jewish journalists such as Thomas Friedman and Leon Wieseltier resembles historic hatred of Jews…

Oren dismisses the claim that “Jews control the media” as an anti-Semitic canard, but then proceeds to lend it credence by writing that it “reflects the disproportionate number – relative to their share of the U.S. population – of Jewish journalists.” He goes on to say that “the presence of so many Jews in print and on screen rarely translates into support for Israel. The opposite is often the case, as some American Jewish journalists flag their Jewishness as a credential for criticizing Israel. ‘I’m Jewish,’ some even seem to say, ‘but I’m not one of those Jews – the settlers, the rabbis, Israeli leaders, or the soldiers of the IDF.’”


This shit is just getting weirder and weirder by the minute. Israel is losing its collective senses; global lawsuits, probably spearheaded by the Dersh, to shut down the BDS movement...good luck, biting the US hand that feeds it, rumblings of annexation of land it does not own while subjugating a people it cannot pretend don't exist, calling other Jews who are critics of all this anti-Semites.

Israel is mashugana.
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Israeli leader turns on US Jewish journalists...for disloyalty and anti-semitism! (Original Post) R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 OP
Oren is a Netanyahu-style Likudnik nutter. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #1
Nobody who isn't blind, lying or being paid by the post could miss that painful truth. R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #2
mashugana? oberliner Jun 2015 #3
Strange to see Mondoweiss being used here as a source as it's considered a hate site by some: King_David Jun 2015 #4
More typical than not around here. grossproffit Jun 2015 #5
Some hasbarists will go to great lengths R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #6
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. Oren is a Netanyahu-style Likudnik nutter.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 11:36 PM
Jun 2015

He repudiated his ties to the United States and doesn't understand that American Jews are . . . Americans. To his way of thinking Jews should be loyal only to Israel.

So he winds up making the same arguments as the Jew-baiting bigots do.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
2. Nobody who isn't blind, lying or being paid by the post could miss that painful truth.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 11:50 PM
Jun 2015

How can one make such a broad brush statement that all Jews must line up and side with Israel as its daddy? That's a serious WTF.

And yes, every bigot that has ever uttered the line that Jews are disloyal and untrustworthy citizens will jump on Oren's words as an affirmation of their racist, distrust and hate.

They really are falling apart over there.

I’m thrilled by Michael Oren’s shot, as a sign of what is coming: open warfare between the American Jewish community and the Israeli one that will break out in the U.S. press. Haaretz won’t be the only publication to cover it. Even Abraham Foxman is criticizing Israel these days, and any college freshman can tell you the country violates American democratic values. So the pro-Israel crowd is going to respond by invoking our supposed “loyalty” to Israel– or as the Times phrased it not long ago, “[Jewish politicians] will eventually need to make an awkward, painful choice between the president of their country and their loyalty to the Jewish state”– and almost all American Jews will stand by the country they live in.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
4. Strange to see Mondoweiss being used here as a source as it's considered a hate site by some:
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:12 AM
Jun 2015


This is how Weiss gets his thrills and kicks, he's salivating at the thought of Jews fighting Jews ( as he sees himself apparently)

I’m thrilled by Michael Oren’s shot, as a sign of what is coming: open warfare between the American Jewish community and the Israeli one that will break out in the U.S. press. - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/journalists-wieseltier-disloyalty#sthash.0hLhWyJy.dpuf
 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
6. Some hasbarists will go to great lengths
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:36 AM
Jun 2015

to attack both the message and messanger.

The hasbarist fear is palpable.

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