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Wed May 20, 2015, 07:31 AM

Despite the new task force to save bees, BigAg profit$ still trump actually saving bees

I find this incredibly disappointing, frustrating....
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Pollinator Health Strategy fails to address pesticides as key driver of bee deaths

Faced with the growing crisis of declining bee populations, the White House on Tuesday released its strategy for improving pollinator health. Almost immediately, experts decried the plan, saying it "misses the mark" by refusing to acknowledge the overwhelming role that pesticides play in driving bee deaths.

Under the strategy (pdf) put forth by the Pollinator Health Task Force, which falls under the leadership of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), the federal government aims to:

*Reduce honey bee colony losses to no more than 15% within 10 years, deemed "economically sustainable levels."
*Increase the Eastern population of the monarch butterfly to 225 million butterflies and protect its annual North American migration.
*"Restore or enhance 7 million acres of land" of pollinator habitat over the next 5 years through Federal actions and public-private partnerships.

To achieve these goals, the Task Force developed an action plan, which prioritizes the need to expand research on honeybees, native bees, butterflies and other pollinators, increase habitat acreage, increase outreach with other federal agencies, and expand public-private partnerships.

However, experts note that absent from the plan is any immediate action restricting the use of pesticides, particularly neonicotinoids, which studies have shown to be one of the leading causes of bee deaths. Nor does the plan outline restrictions for pesticide-coated seeds, which advocates say are "one of the largest uses of bee-harming pesticides."

"The plan focuses heavily on improving pollinator habitat, but is blind to the fact that new habitat will simply become contaminated by insecticides still heavily in use, ultimately harming pollinators," said Larissa Walker, pollinator campaign director at Center for Food Safety.

"We canít just plant more wild flowers near crop land and expect insecticides to stop being a problem."

And Lisa Archer, Food and Technology Program director with Friends of the Earth, said the strategy "misses the mark by not adequately addressing the pesticides as a key driver of unsustainable losses of bees and other pollinators essential to our food system."....

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/05/19/bees-cant-wait-white-house-plan-save-pollinators-falls-short-say-experts




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Reply Despite the new task force to save bees, BigAg profit$ still trump actually saving bees (Original post)
RiverLover May 2015 OP
Buzz Clik May 2015 #1
RiverLover May 2015 #2
Buzz Clik May 2015 #3
RiverLover May 2015 #4
Buzz Clik May 2015 #5
hatrack May 2015 #24
Buzz Clik May 2015 #26
hatrack May 2015 #28
gregcrawford May 2015 #6
Buzz Clik May 2015 #11
gregcrawford May 2015 #16
Buzz Clik May 2015 #17
RiverLover May 2015 #25
Owl May 2015 #7
swilton May 2015 #8
FlatBaroque May 2015 #9
Buzz Clik May 2015 #13
yellowwoodII May 2015 #10
RiverLover May 2015 #23
Nihil May 2015 #27
Buzz Clik May 2015 #12
RiverLover May 2015 #14
Buzz Clik May 2015 #15
RiverLover May 2015 #18
Buzz Clik May 2015 #19
RiverLover May 2015 #20
Buzz Clik May 2015 #21
RiverLover May 2015 #22

Response to RiverLover (Original post)

Wed May 20, 2015, 07:41 AM

1. The EPA plan for neonicotinoids is already in place.

 

Why would this executive-level move do anything to counteract that?

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #1)

Wed May 20, 2015, 07:48 AM

2. You're kidding, right?

Even with overwhelming evidence neonicotinoids are killing our insect pollinators, the EPA has them "under review".

http://www2.epa.gov/pollinator-protection/schedule-review-neonicotinoid-pesticides

And though they have issued a moratorium on new uses,

New uses of neonicotinoids will no long be approved "until the data on pollinator health have been received and appropriate risk assessments completed," the EPA letter reads. Existing permits to use them, however, will not be rescinded ó something wildlife and environmental advocacy groups are unhappy with.

"If EPA is unable to assess the safety of new uses, the agency similarly is not able to assess the safety of the close to 100 outdoor uses already approved,"
said the Center for Food Safety's Peter Jenkins in a statement criticizing the EPA's actions. Other organizations of beekeepers, environmentalists, and farmers echoed the sentiment.

Though it isn't calling an end to all uses of neonicotinoids, the EPA says in its letter that it is taking the problem seriously: "EPA considers the completion of the new pollinator risk assessments for these chemicals to be an agency priority."

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/epa-calls-halt-use-pesticides-suspected-killing-bees-n334936

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #2)

Wed May 20, 2015, 07:56 AM

3. "Even with overwhelming evidence neonicotinoids are killing our insect pollinators..." No.

 

Neonics have been associated with colony collapse, not killing the pollinators, and the evidence is hardly overwhelming.

Nothing new has been discovered of this association between when the last EPA plan was released this year and the formation of the new task force.

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #3)

Wed May 20, 2015, 08:03 AM

4. I disagree. Along with all environmental orgs. But no time to fight conservative lies atm. /nt

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #5)

Wed May 20, 2015, 06:31 PM

24. You are on the bleeding edge of being banned - rein it in.

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Response to hatrack (Reply #24)

Thu May 21, 2015, 12:41 AM

26. Really? You are defending this guy?

 

Calling me a liar and insinuating that I'm a rightwing troll? You defend that and threaten me?

Wow.

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #26)

Thu May 21, 2015, 07:47 AM

28. "Threaten"? No, just a statement of fact

I asked you to be civil. Apparently it's beyond you.

Goodbye.

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #3)

Wed May 20, 2015, 08:57 AM

6. Oh please...

...Buzz, just what do you think colony collapse IS, if not killing the pollinators?

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Response to gregcrawford (Reply #6)

Wed May 20, 2015, 09:40 AM

11. Colony collapse is the disappearance of bees from the hive, not massive die-offs.

 

look it up.

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #11)

Wed May 20, 2015, 11:01 AM

16. And the bees disappear because they are dying!

Bees don't expire in the hive. Because of their relatively short lifespans, disposing of the dead bees would overwhelm those bees dedicated to keeping house, so to speak. If they were just disappearing, they'd show up somewhere else. They don't.

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Response to gregcrawford (Reply #16)

Wed May 20, 2015, 11:11 AM

17. Ok, you have no idea what you're talking about. You and I are done on this one.

 

Read up on the subject.

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #17)

Wed May 20, 2015, 08:46 PM

25. Look in the mirror and say the same thing, please. Maybe you'll be nicer to yourself?

Adult worker bees disappear from the hives, and the young ones are left without care & they die.

The prevailing theory was the worker bees go off, get confused & lost, and die. Of course they die, they don't just vanish into thin air. That "theory" just got more steam behind it with the study from last month that I posted here today. The neonics kill bees' brain cells. It literally makes them stupid & they die.

http://earthjustice.org/features/the-case-of-the-vanishing-honey-bee?gclid=CKCJ1b3L0cUCFYQAaQod6lQAaA

http://www.democraticunderground.com/112785818

You are coming across as a bully, BC, who doesn't know what he's talking about, but is loudly accusing others of not knowing what they are talking about.

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Response to RiverLover (Original post)

Wed May 20, 2015, 09:05 AM

7. Neonicotinoids need to be banned.

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Response to RiverLover (Original post)

Wed May 20, 2015, 09:14 AM

8. 1,000 recs

 

It doesn't take rocket science or a 'program' to figure this out.....any home or space (w/o the pesticides) could be a potential bee habitat...

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Response to RiverLover (Original post)

Wed May 20, 2015, 09:28 AM

9. Of course, this is obvious, and was obvious

when it was announced that Obama would save the bees. THANKS OBAMA! I read the article to see what would be done about pesticides and voila! Jack shit. Another empty gesture to try and convince citizens what a progressive guy he is. Now pass TPA dammit!

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Response to FlatBaroque (Reply #9)

Wed May 20, 2015, 09:46 AM

13. -1

 

Nice disruption attempt.

We can smell you a mile away.

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Response to RiverLover (Original post)

Wed May 20, 2015, 09:33 AM

10. Corn Ethanol

I live in the Midwest, and I have noticed that our politicians have outdone themselves in appeasing the desires of the corn farmers, not to mention the chemical companies from which they buy. That means that politicians voted to increase the amount of corn ethanol in our gasoline.

Does that mean that we depend less on foreign oil? No. The farmer who tills the fields near me goes over them many times with his huge oil-driven machinery. He has ripped out the fence rows so that wild life has no place to live in order to greedily plant more corn. He has the corn sprayed by airplane with pesticides. The fertilizer that he uses also uses petroleum.

Meanwhile, with the wild places gone, there is no place for milkweed to host the butterflies. The bees are killed by the pesticides. This will not end well.

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Response to yellowwoodII (Reply #10)

Wed May 20, 2015, 01:40 PM

23. Very interesting, good post. It must be so frustrating to see your neighbor farmer destroy natural

habitats like that. Its sad to hear, but also nice to get a first-hand experience & impressions. Appreciate it!! I share your frustrations. It will not end well, it isn't ending well...

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Response to yellowwoodII (Reply #10)

Thu May 21, 2015, 04:54 AM

27. And even without the pesticide sprays, the wildlife dies ...

 

> The bees are killed by the pesticides.

The bees are also killed by the creation of mega-fields of monoculture crop.
This is a desert for anything other than the crop (and the resistant pests who
feed on it of course).

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Response to RiverLover (Original post)

Wed May 20, 2015, 09:44 AM

12. Anyone serious about understanding this issue needs to read this:

 

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #12)

Wed May 20, 2015, 10:26 AM

14. And also read a study to understand facts discovered (but only if you're "serious"!)

Sub-lethal exposure to neonicotinoids impaired honey bees
winterization before proceeding to colony collapse disorder

Bulletin of Insectology 2014

Results
We found honey bee colonies in both control and neoncotinoid-treated groups progressed almost identically,
and observed no acute morbidity or mortality in either group until the arrival of winter. In addition, neither the
locations where the hives were set up nor the type of sugar (high-fructose corn syrup vs. sucrose) fed
to honey bees was associated with the brood rearing or the occurrence of CCD (one-way ANOVA). Therefore data
from 3 apiary locations and two types of sugar were pooled in the data analysis. As temperatures began to
decrease in late October 2012, we observed a steady decrease of bee cluster size in both control and neonicotinoidnoid-treated colonies. While such decline was quickly reversed in the control colonies in January 2013, the neonicotinoid-treated hives continued to decline (figure 1).

http://www.bulletinofinsectology.org/pdfarticles/vol67-2014-125-130lu.pdf


These are "trained" insect scientists who have pulled it together.

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #14)

Wed May 20, 2015, 10:56 AM

15. Did you read the links I provided?

 

How does the Harvard controlled feeding study compare to field exposures? Did you notice?

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #15)

Wed May 20, 2015, 11:48 AM

18. I read the paper from 2012 that you posted. He's says "to date" often for a reason.

We know more PROVEN facts now through science than we did in 2012.

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #18)

Wed May 20, 2015, 11:55 AM

19. Take a look at the concentrations used in the Harvard study.

 

Then take a look at the "field relevant" concentrations in my link.

Then, we can talk more...

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #19)

Wed May 20, 2015, 11:57 AM

20. Your arrogance is misplaced here. You are wrong.

Go talk yourself.

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #20)

Wed May 20, 2015, 12:06 PM

21. What you interpret as "arrogance" is having a strong handle on the facts.

 

This is twice you've insulted unprovoked on this thread. I don't really give a damn about the insults, but are you going to look at the science or not?

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #21)

Wed May 20, 2015, 12:07 PM

22. There it is again!

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