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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,918 posts)
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 06:56 PM Jun 2023

In a First, Wind and Solar Generated More Power Than Coal in U.S.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/in-a-first-wind-and-solar-generated-more-power-than-coal-in-u-s/

RENEWABLE ENERGY

In a First, Wind and Solar Generated More Power Than Coal in U.S.
Wind and solar produced more U.S. power than coal during the first five months of this year, as several coal plants closed and gas prices dropped

By Benjamin Storrow, E&E News on June 12, 2023

CLIMATEWIRE | Wind and solar generated more electricity than coal through May, an E&E News review of federal data shows, marking the first time renewables have outpaced the former king of American power over a five-month period.

The milestone illustrates the ongoing transformation of the U.S. power sector as the nation races to install cleaner forms of energy to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from fossil fuels. Power markets have witnessed a precipitous drop in coal-fired generation this year, driven by low natural gas prices, a mild winter and a wave of coal plant retirements.

“From a coal perspective, it has been a disaster,” said Andy Blumenfeld, an analyst who tracks the industry at McCloskey by OPIS. “The decline is happening faster than anyone anticipated.”
Renewable energy generation exceeded coal-fired power in 2020 and 2022, but only when hydropower was counted as a source of renewable energy, according to figures compiled by the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

This year has been different. Wind and solar sources generated a combined 252 terawatt-hours through the first five months of 2023, compared with coal output of 249 TWh, EIA data shows. Hydro generated an additional 117 TWh through May.
EIA’s numbers for April and May are preliminary, said Chris Higginbotham, an agency spokesperson.

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In a First, Wind and Solar Generated More Power Than Coal in U.S. (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2023 OP
Sounds like we're heading in right direction. Wonder if we'll... TreasonousBastard Jun 2023 #1
Take that Moochin Manchin, you wannabe KPN Jun 2023 #2
That is awesome. Thanks for posting the data. CentralMass Jun 2023 #3
Wait for it, wait for it... druidity33 Jun 2023 #4
I don't scoff at renewables... hunter Jun 2023 #5
Well, you weren't who i was talking about. nt. druidity33 Jun 2023 #6
I assume I qualify. NNadir Jun 2023 #7
There's the vitriol i was talking about! nt. druidity33 Jun 2023 #8
Happy to help. It would be interesting, of course... NNadir Jun 2023 #9

druidity33

(6,454 posts)
4. Wait for it, wait for it...
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 07:09 PM
Jun 2023

Pro-nuclear poster scoffing at renewables with vitriol in 3.....2.....1.....



K&R, Good News!

hunter

(38,383 posts)
5. I don't scoff at renewables...
Tue Jun 13, 2023, 11:44 AM
Jun 2023

... I just don't see how they are going to save the world.

Without fossil fuel "backup power," especially natural gas, they are not economically viable.

NNadir

(33,621 posts)
7. I assume I qualify.
Tue Jun 13, 2023, 04:12 PM
Jun 2023

I think that if energy is unreliable, expensive, requires redundancy, is land and massive intensive, it is dirty and unsustainable.

The decline of coal in this country is a function of the use of dangerous natural gas. As we see in that coal burning hellhole Germany, when the gas is unavailable, coal comes back.

All this delusional horseshit about solar and wind has been here for decades.

Numbers don't lie however. The number that matters is the concentration of the dangerous fossil fuel waste carbon dioxide in the planetary atmosphere, 424.81 ppm recorded at Mauna Loa on Jume 11.

History will record that we nothing about climate change other than to cheer for spin.

Let's be clear about this, in the US a cheer for solar and wind is a cheer for dangerous natural gas, fracking the shit out of bedrock to trash the groundwater supplies of all future generations. When the gas runs out, the coal returns.

The people cheering for solar and wind however have never given a shit either for climate change or for the use of fossil fuels. I will not apologize for considering their rhetoric to be the language of gasbags, in every literal and figurative sense.

NNadir

(33,621 posts)
9. Happy to help. It would be interesting, of course...
Tue Jun 13, 2023, 06:06 PM
Jun 2023

Last edited Tue Jun 13, 2023, 09:15 PM - Edit history (2)

...if all the self declared "nice" people selling the "solar and wind will save us" rhetoric could spare some of their wonderful gracious niceness to demonstrate a wiff of concern about deaths from fossil fuel waste, air pollution and climate change, but they're too nice to do so.

The death toll is still 19000 people per day, not counting the sure to come death toll from extreme weather and extreme heat.

I'm not too nice about this issue. Frankly I'm angry as hell about what this sick and silly bourgeois myopia has brought to humanity and all living things.

I'm certainly glad it shows. I couldn't live with myself if it were otherwise.

Have a wonderful popular evening.

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