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Rhiannon12866

(205,655 posts)
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 01:32 AM Apr 2020

Coronavirus lockdowns have sent pollution plummeting. Environmentalists worry about what comes next.

The decline in carbon emissions that has resulted from coronavirus lockdowns could easily be reversed by efforts to quickly ramp up economies.

Traffic-free roads, plane-free skies and widespread brick-and-mortar closings have made the planet a beneficiary of the coronavirus pandemic — but only in the short term.

Li Shuo, senior climate and energy policy officer at Greenpeace in Beijing, said it's not time to "pop the champagne corks" just yet.

"It's hardly a sustainable way to reduce emissions," he said.

Many climate experts spotlighted 2020 as a critical year to take decisive action to limit the worst impacts of global warming. The year started with international attention on catastrophic wildfires and floods.

The pandemic has overshadowed those issues — but with an environmental silver lining. The sharp reductions documented in carbon emissions and air pollution caused by coronavirus-related lockdowns have offered a sort of preview of the kind of improvements that can be made when drastic action is taken.

But the changes could easily be wiped out by efforts to quickly ramp up economies, including governments around the world that may be more willing to relax regulations to jump-start companies.


Much more (Includes video): https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/coronavirus-lockdowns-have-sent-pollution-plummeting-environmentalists-worry-about-what-n1178326



The skies above Los Angeles are cleaner and clearer because of lower automobile use and less local manufacturing. Ted Soqui / Sipa USA via AP file

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Coronavirus lockdowns have sent pollution plummeting. Environmentalists worry about what comes next. (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Apr 2020 OP
That photo is amazing, and looks fake because it's so clear. Larger version: greyl Apr 2020 #1
I know! And it looks like this is happening all over the world! Rhiannon12866 Apr 2020 #2
Helps focus on how pollution sucks, even for those who deny global warming & climate change. nt greyl Apr 2020 #3
That's an excellent point! Rhiannon12866 Apr 2020 #4
If that is a recent photo it could possibly be that BigmanPigman Apr 2020 #10
First off, this crisis isn't going to end all that soon. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2020 #5
Yesterday someone here mentioned that the air seemed clearer where they were Rhiannon12866 Apr 2020 #7
The Earth can get along just fine without us. Makes you feel really insignificant. The Wielding Truth Apr 2020 #6
And so can the wildlife, from the news I've read here on DU: Rhiannon12866 Apr 2020 #8
That photo makes me wonder what the impact would be if the majority of countries would expand cstanleytech Apr 2020 #9
I sincerely hope that all of the countries in this world will see the silver linings Dem2theMax Apr 2020 #11
The loss of global dimming from sulfur emissions could spike temps though NickB79 Apr 2020 #12
Thanks, Rhiannon. That's quite a memorable shot. KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2020 #13
Thanks! And it is encouraging, it hasn't even been that long! Rhiannon12866 Apr 2020 #15
Amazing what we can do when it's OUR lives on the line... haricotblue Apr 2020 #14

greyl

(22,990 posts)
1. That photo is amazing, and looks fake because it's so clear. Larger version:
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 01:38 AM
Apr 2020


( Right click > View Image to see full size )

Rhiannon12866

(205,655 posts)
2. I know! And it looks like this is happening all over the world!
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 01:40 AM
Apr 2020

It shows we can do it, we just need to find a way to sustain this progress as much as we can.

Rhiannon12866

(205,655 posts)
4. That's an excellent point!
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 01:57 AM
Apr 2020

Of course, Trump and his minions are experts at denial, but it's hard to ignore when photos make it obvious.

BigmanPigman

(51,613 posts)
10. If that is a recent photo it could possibly be that
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:22 AM
Apr 2020

clear outside since S California has had between 5-7" of rain this month, making it one of the wettest April's in history. The rain washed some of the pollution out of the atmosphere.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,865 posts)
5. First off, this crisis isn't going to end all that soon.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:18 AM
Apr 2020

Despite Donald Trump wanting to re-open everything tomorrow or the day after, that won't happen.

Meanwhile, skies will get clearer and clearer everywhere. And yeah, those recent pictures of Los Angeles look totally photoshopped. If they are not, if they are actual non-photoshopped pictures, then a relatively short time of little car traffic is dramatic. It's probably even more dramatic in cities in India or China. Assuming they've largely stopped driving there also.

People are not going to be willing to go back to what it was like before. People are going to want to keep clear skies. People are realizing that there is an alternative to commuting three hours a day, to spending too many hours at a job that isn't always that satisfying. People are making connections with others that won't go away.

On a personal note, I've taken up taking a bit of a walk on my way to the mailbox each day. It's not always lovely and warm, and on the days that it is, I'm somewhat distressed that I am not seeing more people out in their front or back yards, enjoying the fine weather. But I still see a few, and I will stand at a distance, exchange a few words, and then move on. I'm thinking that when this is over I want to organize some kind of block party, or party at the nearby park. Just a giant celebration of life and being neighbors.

Rhiannon12866

(205,655 posts)
7. Yesterday someone here mentioned that the air seemed clearer where they were
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:56 AM
Apr 2020

So I did a quick search and found a few more posts on the subject, India was mentioned specifically:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1018&pid=1346712

It's apparently happening everywhere:

NASA Satellite Data Show 30 Percent Drop In Air Pollution Over Northeast U.S.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1127137180

Himalayas Seen from India for the First Time in 30 Years Due to Air Pollution Drop
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1127137170

'It's positively alpine!' Disbelief in big cities as air pollution falls
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142468313

Silver lining: reduction in pollution
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213154665


And I've also noticed an increase of people out walking (especially with their dogs) and outside doing yardwork - at least in my neck-of-the-woods. This is the time of year for it, but now many people have the time and it's a better alternative to just sitting inside.

cstanleytech

(26,302 posts)
9. That photo makes me wonder what the impact would be if the majority of countries would expand
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:12 AM
Apr 2020

their mass transit systems to replace the majority of cars on the road.

Dem2theMax

(9,651 posts)
11. I sincerely hope that all of the countries in this world will see the silver linings
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:39 AM
Apr 2020

and do everything they can to keep them.

Maybe companies will realize that their employees do better work at home. Maybe people will realize they don't need to get in their cars every other 10 minutes to go somewhere. Maybe people will realize they don't need every single thing they see on the TV, the internet or in a a magazine. Maybe they will recycle and purchase used items. Keep the landfills a little less full. Keep the oceans cleaner. Keep the skies bluer.

Maybe people will realize it's fun to grow vegetables, and that we should do it year-round, in our backyards.

So many Silver Linings to this horrible crisis. If each one of us could hold on to the ones that work for us, in addition to saving us from covid 19, maybe we can save the planet and ourselves in the process.

NickB79

(19,257 posts)
12. The loss of global dimming from sulfur emissions could spike temps though
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 05:15 PM
Apr 2020

Which would be extremely ironic.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
13. Thanks, Rhiannon. That's quite a memorable shot.
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 07:22 AM
Apr 2020

I'm seeing stories like that from around the globe regarding both water and air. Especially welcome break in places like Delhi and Beijing where some days one can hardly see ten yards.

Sadly, it's only temporary and we best enjoy it while we can.

KY......

Rhiannon12866

(205,655 posts)
15. Thanks! And it is encouraging, it hasn't even been that long!
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 04:51 AM
Apr 2020

Now if only we can keep some of the progress we've made - worldwide - in such a short time, we can have a healthier future - and planet! We know now that we can do it!

haricotblue

(20 posts)
14. Amazing what we can do when it's OUR lives on the line...
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 10:26 PM
Apr 2020

For years we've been told we can't save future generations or the planet because it'd cost too much, take away jobs, or whatever the excuse-du-jour is. But when that virus hit, suddenly it was "Shut down the entire world economy? No problem!"

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