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Related: About this forumRios Montt and the Guatemalan press
I was curious at to this bogus claim made on another thread regarding press coverage of Rios Montt and his atrocities:
"And none of them make the Guatemalan press, except maybe with a brief, vague, passing mention buried on a back page. "
So I did an online search of the largest Guatemalan newspaper Prensa Libre (not to be confused with the Cuban government shitrag Prensa Latina). Also, the Siglo 21 another paper. I found the claim interesting because the Guatemalan press has been historically hard on their mostly corrupt governments. During the Jorge Serrano auto-coup he shut down the press. Siglo 21 responded by publishing an edition anyway that was completely devoid of any article or print whatsoever save the press banner.
I searched Prensa Latina first for Rios Montt and found 4 pages of links on Rios Montt and his atrocities in just the last two months. 4 pages of links just from Prensa Latina on Rios MOntt, I repeat. On Siglo 21 I found 10 pages of links to stories just from Siglo 21 on Rios Montt and it seems just this year.
I then searched for Jennifer Harbury, whose Guatemalan husband was tortured and killed by the military, and found 9 pages of links just on Siglo 21 website. I recall her story from way back in the 90s. Clearly someone is purposely making false claims, and others are all too eager to accept these false claims.
Not sure why this individual chose to take a swipe at the press, but its just a pattern of posting any b.s. Perhaps, reruns of Alo Presidente would be a more appropriate activity for our dimwitted chavista friends.
Prensa Libre on Rios Montt http://www.prensalibre.com/archivo/?text=rios montt&page=1
Siglo 21 on Rios Montt http://www.s21.com.gt/search/google/rios%20montt?query=rios%20montt&cx=017238256316942201728%3A1-7gdx7w70k&cof=FORID%3A11&sitesearch=
Jennifer Harbury http://www.s21.com.gt/search/google/jennifer%20harbury?query=jennifer%20harbury&cx=017238256316942201728%3A1-7gdx7w70k&cof=FORID%3A11&sitesearch=
http://www.prensalibre.com/noticias/justicia/Retrocede-proceso-Rios-Montt_0_903509871.html
http://www.prensalibre.com/noticias/justicia/Reinicia-genocidio-exdictador-Rios-Montt_0_889111310.html
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Con Gálvez el proceso continuó durante la primera instancia penal, incorporó a los militares Efraín Ríos Montt y José Mauricio Rodríguez
Ríos Montt y José Mauricio Rodríguez Sánchez son acusados de ser los responsables intelectuales de la muerte de mil 771 indígenas ixiles, a manos del Ejército, en 16 diferentes matanzas colectivas ocurridas entre marzo de 1982 a agosto de 1982, cuando el primero gobernó de facto el país, y el segundo fue jefe de la Dirección de Inteligencia Militar.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)You should make an attempt to quote people accurately.
My quote
And none of them make the Guatemalan press, except maybe with a brief, vague, passing mention buried on a back page.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110814848#post8
If you think Rios Montt is the beginning and end of atrocities down here... well no wonder your contributions are so... bizarre.
Another real fail for you Bacchus. But you spend so much time here either presenting or defending right wing press that I can see how you get so easily confused and naturally misrepresent things.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)You said "none". That is incorrect. In fact right now as we speak it is front page on the presna libre Internet site.
You were wrong.
It may be that in fact it's under reported, but your specific statement was factually incorrect.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)from what I remember in the 90s they were quite persistent in exploiting corruption and malfeance. Seems they are still quite on top of things 20 years later. Not sure the reasoning for such a statement other than you simply don't know and/or want others to believe that is the case. Why even say anything then? Keep your postings to what you know and you would save alot of space here.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)Apparently they are not afraid of prominently reporting the Molina connection either
http://www.prensalibre.com/noticias/justicia/Implican-Perez-Molina-masacres-indigenas_0_895110712.html
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)had to respond to that nonsense. Since you live in Guate its odd you get your news from the Cuban government's rag.
anyway regarding Siglo 21:
Founded in 1990 by José Rubén Zamora, the paper advocated judicial and tax reforms, and reported on dangerous subjects including narcotics smuggling, human rights issues, guerrilla groups, and corruption in the government of President Jorge Serrano. As a result, Zamora and the staff received death threats and were subject to physical attacks.[1]
Three years later, Guatemala saw a constitutional crisis, in which Serrano suspended the constitution and dissolved Congress. He also instituted press censorship, surrounding the Siglo Veintiuno offices with national police forces. During this period, Zamora satirized the censorship by renaming the paper Siglo Catorce ("14th Century" and running stories covered in solid blocks of ink; he also faxed uncensored versions of the stories to newspapers in neighboring countries. The International Press Institute credits this clandestine reporting with contributing to Serrano's condemnation by the international community and his eventual flight from the country.[1]
Zamora and other staff members were attacked several times in connection with their reporting. In 1995, Zamora's car was driven off the road by two people who threatened to kill him for publishing allegations in Siglo Veintiuno that the military of Guatemala had links to organized crime. In May 1996, attackers drove past his parked car, throwing two grenades at it; Zamora was unhurt.[1]
In May 1996, Zamora left the paper following disagreements with its board of directors and founded a new paper, El Periódico.[1]
In 1995, Zamora and the Siglo Veintiuno staff won International Press Freedom Awards from the Committee to Protect Journalists, which recognize courage in defending press freedom despite facing attacks, threats, or imprisonment.[2] In the same year, Zamora won the Maria Moors Cabot Prize from Columbia University "for promoting press freedom and inter-American understanding".[3] In 2000, he was named one of 50 World Press Freedom Heroes of the 20th century by the International Press Institute.[4] The citation stated that "Zamora and Siglo Veintiuno were in the forefront of a civilian resistance that forced President Jorge Serrano Elias to relinquish his post after he attempted to seize dictatorial power in 1993."[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siglo_Veintiuno
reorg
(3,317 posts)of what he thinks.
First, I would like to mention the OP appears to be written when the poster was half asleep. He advises his readers not to confuse "Prensa Libre" with "Prensa Latina" and then goes on in his next paragraph to do exactly that:
Then he makes the following claim which turns out to be false on closer examination:
http://www.s21.com.gt/search/google/jennifer%20harbury?query=jennifer%20harbury&cx=017238256316942201728%3A1-7gdx7w70k&cof=FORID%3A11&sitesearch=
If you follow his link to the Siglo 21 search results page, it does indeed state that "Aproximadamente 90 resultados (0,18 segundos)" were found and, at the bottom of the page, the numbers 2-9 with links appear to indicate that there are "9 pages of links".
However, if you click through these links - an action that our dear co-poster obviously did not waste any time on - you will find that there are only two and a half pages of search results. Some of the results link to the same article or notice. In total, the number of "articles" with the name Jennifer Harbury is 16, ranging from one-sentence notices (hidden on page 4 of the newspaper) to some reports and opinion (hit) pieces (none of which are on the first page).
Since I know very little about Guatemala I thought I might learn something going through these articles and in fact I did. It is a textbook case of "framing" an issue that is uncomfortable and which you want to go away.
The first six articles in 2010 mention a plan by the ruling party at the time, "Plan Victoria 2012", to "defame" (desprestigiar) the opposition, part of which would be Jennifer Harbury's allegations against the opposing party candidate Otto Pérez Molina. Jennifer Harbury and her allegations are only mentioned in passing, the main claim being that she was going to be paid for the trip.
The next four notices about Jennifer Harbury's attempt to reopen the case about her disappeared husband from 2011 are extremely short and lacking of meaningful content. They are followed by two hit pieces mainly focusing on the commenter's allegation that her marriage with the disappeared guerilla fighter wasn't real.
Finally, the four articles in January 2012 are about the dismissal of the case. These articles are longer than those of the previous year, but, again, her allegations are done with in a few sentences.
PP señala al Gobierno de tener Plan Victoria 2012
20.03.2010
Baldetti y Blanco acuden a tribunales
24.03.2010
Harbury está aquí para declarar en caso Bámaca
25.03.2010
Harbury, go home
26.03.2010
Citación deriva en lucha ideológica
06.04.2010
Gutiérrez pide a Colom evitar caer en tentación totalitaria
04.07.2010
El que nada debe, nada teme
01.02.2011
Ven interés por cerrar caso Bámaca
22.02.2011
Denuncian a Otto Pérez por muerte de Bámaca
01.04.2011
Activistas denuncian a Pérez
20.07.2011
Durmiendo el sueño de los justos (I)
22.07.2011
Durmiendo el Sueño de Justos (II)
05.08.2011
Jueza desestima denuncia contra Otto Pérez por el caso Bámaca
06.01.2012
Desestima acción contra Pérez Molina
07.01.2012
Piden continuar caso Bámaca
08.01.2012
Fiscal explica desistimiento en caso Bámaca
09.01.2012
Judi Lynn
(160,527 posts)as you work daily to attack democratic posters here. Why not take it somewhere else where you'd have actual support beyond the cluster #### you have now?
Took only a jiffy to find this ort:
January 24, 2013
Community Radio Movement in Guatemala Releases Book
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More than 100 guests from grassroots organizations, international NGOs and even state institutions attended the event, including the UN Special Rapporteur for Freedom of Expression, Frank La Rue, Guatemalas Ombudsman for the Human Rights of Indigenous Peoples Martin Sacalxot, and Santos Sajbochol, a member of the Supreme Court for Indigenous Peoples Issues.
These three presenters expressed their disapproval of the exclusion of community radio by the Guatemalan state and the monopoly that exists in Guatemalas mass media.
http://www.culturalsurvival.org/news/community-radio-movement-guatemala-releases-book
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)I looked at Prensa Libre and Siglo 21 and there were the articles right there. You wouldn't even know where to start. I've known the Jennifer Harbury story and of Rios Montt for 20 plus years and lived there during the Jorge Serrano era including during the auto-coup. Go away.
Judi Lynn
(160,527 posts)Guatemala: Media monopoly "squeezes out alternative voices" Print E-mail
Controlling information is taking away people's right to information, something that is fundamental for real democracy to exist (Gonzalo Marroquín, Guatemalan journalist and President of Inter American Press Association)
http://www.waccglobal.org/component/content/article/2542:guatemala-media-monopoly-qsqueezes-out-alternative-voicesq.html
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Media of Guatemala is dominated in the area of commercial television by Mexican media mogul Remigio Ángel González, who since the mid-1990s has "virtual monopoly control of that nation's commercial television airwaves".[1] González controls four television stations in Guatemala - Channels 3, 7, 11 and 13.[2] González, who also owns a majority of the country's cinemas,[1] had by 2000 also acquired 21 radio stations,[1] including Radio Sonora, known as a leader in news.[3] The other two major radio chains are Emisoras Unidas (owned by the Archila family) and Radio Grupo Alius (owned by Alfonso Liu), a chain of Christian stations which does not compete in news or music.[3]
A 2001 study of González' media properties in Guatemala and Nicaragua found that they had a tendency to squeeze out voices opposed to the government, and concluded that "Gonzalezs ownership practices create an atmosphere that undercuts the development of democracy."[1] He has a strong influence in Guatemalan politics, for example giving $650,000 to Vinicio Cerezo's 1985 presidential campaign,[1] as well as more than $2.6 million and free airtime to Alfonso Portillo's 1999 campaign. "Political analysts say the free commercials helped Portillo win the election."[4] After becoming president, Portillo "named Gonzalez's brother-in-law, Luis Rabbe, as his minister of communications, infrastructure and housing, a powerful Cabinet position whose jurisdiction includes the oversight of broadcast media."[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_of_Guatemala
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Urban Guatemala Media Environment
Media Environment
Press freedom is preserved in Guatemalas constitution under Article 35 and is generally respected by the government. In September 2008, seeking to counter perceptions of corruption and a lack of transparency, legislators unanimously approved the Freedom of Information Act. The law allows citizens to request and receive information about public institutions, potentially bolstering the efforts of some journalists to uncover government corruption.
News outlets are free to criticize the government but many journalists still face intimidation because of their reporting-often related to drugs, corruption, and organized crime. In 2008, media houses reported a number death threats against their journalists. In May 2008, Jorge Merida Perez, a prominent journalist of the leading national daily Prensa Libre, was murdered after reporting on drug trafficking and government corruption. In August, Jose Ruben Zamora, president of the Guatemala City daily El Periodico, was abducted and beaten unconscious for covering organized crime and corruption.[1]
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Most broadcast and press outlets are privately owned (the government possesses two television broadcast licenses but does not transmit any signals). The broadcast media environment is controlled by only a few media houses. The largest media group controlled by the Mexican businessman Angel Gonzalez Gonzalez possesses a virtual monopoly in TV broadcasting, managing four national TV channels which include the most popular and important stations in Guatemala: Channel 7, Channel 3, Channel 11 and Channel 13. Furthermore, Angel Gonzalez Gonzalez owns about 21 radio stations, including the most-listened station, Radio Sonora.
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There are four major daily newspapers, and as with the TV industry, the newsprint industry is dominated by a single media house. The La Prensa SA group publishes the two leading newspapers in Guatemala, Nuestro Diario and La Prensa Libre.
The AudienceScapes urban survey shows a citizenry that is aware of the strong domestic influences on the media: 68 percent of respondents agreed with the statement that the government influences the media, while 70 percent agreed that economic groups influence the media.
More:
http://www.audiencescapes.org/country-profiles/urban-guatemala/country-overview/media-environment/media-environment-254
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Nothing like seeing a right-wing ringer try to run off a democrat from a democratic message board. At least you tried.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)chavismo has nothing to do with Democrats. I knew about Rios Montt and Guatemalan war atrocities probably even before your mental faculties deteriorated to utter incoherence. run along now.
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