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naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:11 PM Mar 2013

How Cuba became the newest hotbed for tourists craving sex with minors Read more here: http://www.m

A Spanish airline advertisement for travel to Cuba showed two black women in bikinis with a white baby who sang, "mulatas ... take me to my crib." Complaints from a Spanish consumer group forced the airline to pull the ad.

But Cuban officials never complained publicly about the ad, and Castro himself seemed to accept sex tourism in a 1992 speech.

Cuban women are not "forced to sell themselves to a man, to a foreigner, to a tourist. Those who do so do ...without any need for it," he declared. "We can say that they are highly educated hookers and quite healthy, because we are the country with the lowest numbers of AIDS cases. ... Therefore, there is truly no prostitution healthier than Cuba's."


Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/03/28/187192/how-cuba-became-the-newest-hotbed.html#storylink=omni_popular#storylink=cpy

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How Cuba became the newest hotbed for tourists craving sex with minors Read more here: http://www.m (Original Post) naaman fletcher Mar 2013 OP
Scraping the bottom of the barrel, I see. Achieving new lows. Mika Mar 2013 #1
Thank you. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #2
It was the only Cuba story that came up today naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #3
Well then, stop repeating. Mika Mar 2013 #4
It Would Be Lovely To Pretend That Sex Tourism Isn't Occurring, But Vogon_Glory Mar 2013 #7
I think the distinction is that it's frowned upon in Miami. joshcryer Mar 2013 #11
Apparently the Miami Cuban "exiles" are unable to recognize the jinateras in their own town. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #12
ha ha ha Judy flamingdem Mar 2013 #15
Sigh... Mika Mar 2013 #13
I'm not sure what the point of that was? joshcryer Mar 2013 #14
From the same company which had to admit and apologize for photoshopping Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #5
Some Metro-Dade cops recently busted for running a teenage prostitution/slavery ring ... Mika Mar 2013 #6
And THAT is why this story pops up now. bemildred Mar 2013 #8
I wondered about that. Much of this story seems canned. joshcryer Mar 2013 #10
Looks like they took this from Ivan Garcia's blog. joshcryer Mar 2013 #9
I thought it was an old hotbed. roody Mar 2013 #16
Oh, it becomes the newest "hotbed" every time the right-wingers need to renew the hostility Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #18
Foul plan, naamen fletcher--again! Peace Patriot Mar 2013 #17
Foul play? naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #19
Your naivete is not believable (that you didn't know it was shit). Peace Patriot Mar 2013 #20
Believe what you want naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #21
 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
1. Scraping the bottom of the barrel, I see. Achieving new lows.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:50 PM
Mar 2013

I wish I could say I was surprised.

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From the lame Juan Tamayo article

And HIV rates are lower than in other Caribbean sex tourism hotspots


Really? So, since when does a "hotbed" of sexual/prostitution tourism have the lowest HIV transmission in the western hemisphere?

Pathetic.

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
3. It was the only Cuba story that came up today
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:52 PM
Mar 2013

I forgot that this forum only wants to be an echo chamber.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
4. Well then, stop repeating.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:55 PM
Mar 2013
ech·o
/ˈekō/
Noun
A sound or series of sounds caused by the reflection of sound waves from a surface back to the listener:
Verb
(of a sound) Be repeated or reverberate after the original sound has stopped


Vogon_Glory

(9,169 posts)
7. It Would Be Lovely To Pretend That Sex Tourism Isn't Occurring, But
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 06:22 PM
Mar 2013

It would be lovely to pretend that sex tourism isn't occurring, or that old goats from various parts of the industrialized (and post-industrialized) world aren't heading to Cuba in hopes of getting their jollies with young girls, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

I myself took a recent trip to the island and was asked by two young women if I was following them because I was interested in having sex with them (I wasn't. I might be a sexually-frustrated old fart, but I am a very cautious old fart who prefers to play in his back yard with people nearer his own age, and I was walking around old Havana with the sole purpose of playing tourist and admiring the old buildings).

I do not excuse sex tourism, particularly with young 'uns, nor do I think it's better in Miami--either for prostitutes or their johns.

joshcryer

(62,297 posts)
11. I think the distinction is that it's frowned upon in Miami.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:32 PM
Mar 2013

And illegal.

In Cuba it is known as jineterismo and is generally legal. But it's legal in most Latin American states, so that's not really a controversial view. What makes Cuba special is that it's probably the safest destination in Latin America to get a prostitute, imo.

Judi Lynn

(160,969 posts)
12. Apparently the Miami Cuban "exiles" are unable to recognize the jinateras in their own town.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:43 PM
Mar 2013

No one else has trouble spotting them.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
13. Sigh...
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:50 PM
Mar 2013
http://cuba-l.unm.edu/?nid=22258


Cuba to seize private property linked to drug trafficking or use

Story Filed: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 5:27 PM EST

Havana, Feb 19, 2003 (EFE via COMTEX) -- Cuban authorities will confiscate
the property of anyone involved in the traffic or consumption of illegal
drugs or linked to irregularities or corruption, the government said in a
decree published in the state-run newspaper on Wednesday.

Official Cuban newspaper Granma announced, "The confiscation of all those
residences or buildings in which drugs are produced, trafficked, acquired,
stored, consumed, hidden or are linked in any way, directly or indirectly,
to drugs,"

Earlier this year, the government launched a national campaign to combat
the consumption and traffic of illegal drugs on the island, after a surge
of drug-related complaints led to police operations, raids and arrests.

A spokesman for the prosecutor's office said the government will also
confiscate the property of anyone linked to corruption, prostitution,
procurement, pornography, people trafficking, corruption of minors or any
such crime.

This punitive measure will also apply to property owners who rent out a
residence or local without submitting the proper documentation to the
official registry or, after having registered, fail to notify authorities
of the presence of tenants.

Judi Lynn

(160,969 posts)
5. From the same company which had to admit and apologize for photoshopping
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 06:05 PM
Mar 2013

the image of two Cuban women calling out to a tourist standing next to Cuban cops to make it look as if the Cuban government condones prostitution.

That one was hilarious.

This apparently is their "white slavery, child prostitution, etc." part of their perennial cycle, to be followed by the "Cuba is making biochemical warfare" extravaganza, etc., etc. It got so old many years ago.

Only assholes keep trying to pass this off as something valid. People started saying years ago that there are more prostitutes on Calle Ocho in Miami than throughout Havana.

The "Whorehouse of the Caribbean" was during Batista's reign of terror, and before that, when the U.S. Navy used Havana for a R & R spot. Who doesn't know that?

Sad, sad, sad.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
6. Some Metro-Dade cops recently busted for running a teenage prostitution/slavery ring ...
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 06:09 PM
Mar 2013

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... Little Havana.


bemildred

(90,061 posts)
8. And THAT is why this story pops up now.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 06:31 PM
Mar 2013

Standard Republican political rhetoric: accuse your enemies of what you just got caught doing. It's almost a natural law.

joshcryer

(62,297 posts)
10. I wondered about that. Much of this story seems canned.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:24 PM
Mar 2013

I mean, old news about the Canadian guy who got busted, much of the narrative seems to have been culled from Ivan Garcia's blog, and the Wikileaks cables are several years old. Wouldn't be surprised if they just grabbed previous articles in the past, compiled them together, and rewrote them to make this one.

joshcryer

(62,297 posts)
9. Looks like they took this from Ivan Garcia's blog.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:22 PM
Mar 2013

It doesn't seem like they interviewed him.

http://translatingcuba.com/havana-hookers-a-la-carte-ivan-garcia/

http://translatingcuba.com/the-hookers-of-la-palma-ivan-garcia/

http://translatingcuba.com/i-propose-that-the-government-legalize-prostitution-ivan-garcia/

http://translatingcuba.com/memories-of-a-retired-prostitute-ivan-garcia/

In any event, documentarian Sebastian Martinez Ferrate did go to jail, so we know that's true from the article.

As far as James McTurk is concerned it's pulling up an old case, imo. I think that Cuba has cracked down on very young prostitutes (though 16 is still quite young, it's no where near as bad as the 90s when I've read stories from really fucked up people talking about their exploits). So it's basically fueling a false or misleading narrative. They still call Cuba the Thailand of the Caribbean, but I think they crack down hard on those who have sex with anyone under 16.

As far as Michael and Chachi's statements, who knows if they're legit, I'd like to see video. Since the source is the Miami Herald it's hard to know how much is true.

Regardless I believe Ivan Garcia and he's written a lot on this subject. I didn't know about the quote from Castro but it seems legit. Pretty sad how far the revolution fell once the USSR broke away.

Judi Lynn

(160,969 posts)
18. Oh, it becomes the newest "hotbed" every time the right-wingers need to renew the hostility
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:44 AM
Mar 2013

they want to direct toward Cuba. Can't do it with charges of ordinary prostitution alone, God knows, in a country with legal prostitution in Nevada, even politicians who are known to haunt whorehouses, or arrange prostitutes for parties, like former Republican Congressman "Top Gun" Duke Cunningham, so they have to throw in the image of "chil'rens" to get those ignorant juices stirring.

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
19. Foul play?
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:47 AM
Mar 2013

Looking at what Josh Cryer posted, it appears this is a regurgitated shit story and I'm sorry for that, but There are 5 regurgitated shit storeis per day posted here from Ven Analysis as well.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
20. Your naivete is not believable (that you didn't know it was shit).
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 01:08 AM
Mar 2013

And to compare this shit to the thoughtful, factual, informative articles at Venezuelanalysis.com that have been posted here at DU is absurd.

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
21. Believe what you want
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 01:53 AM
Mar 2013

But I have noticed that after constantly and repeatedly answering every question or statement put to me on the falklands, you refuse to answer my questions in return. So much for any claim of yours to enhancing the quality of information here.

I also don't regularly regurgitate falsehoods like you and Venanalysis due such as "Chavez eliminated illiteracy",

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