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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:49 PM Mar 2016

Give Bernie a break (Hillary Groupl)

I would like the Democrats to forget about Bernie's Excuse me slip the way he forgets about e-mails. I don't doubt for a minute his commitment to gender and racial equality. But he's a product of his age and is not a temperamentally empathetic person. The Myers-Briggs test would probably rate him very high on the "justice" scale. But on the debate stage slips like Excuse me and white people not knowing what it's like to be poor are magnified all out of proportion to whatever deficiencies they reveal. I'm a firm Hillary supporter, but I'm a proud Democrat. Let's not spend time on "style."

LAS

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Give Bernie a break (Hillary Groupl) (Original Post) LAS14 Mar 2016 OP
This isn't about style. This is an election for President. What someone says in a debate matters still_one Mar 2016 #1
You might want to ask yourself who is reading more into what you actually see and hear. fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #2
The way he 'forgets' about her email? Rose Siding Mar 2016 #3
Need a President for this reality Her Sister Mar 2016 #4
Your Judgment is Flawed. Stand and Fight Mar 2016 #5
White people not knowing what it's like to be poor or live in a ghetto is way more than a slip. charlyvi Mar 2016 #6
More than a slip peggysue2 Mar 2016 #7
^^^ THIS ^^^ Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #8
This is the kind of thing voters hear. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #9
KnR nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #10
Temperament and knowledge matter. How he conducts himself, Lucinda Mar 2016 #11
Style matters. bravenak Mar 2016 #12
you never get a second chance to make a first impression. Blue Idaho Mar 2016 #13

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
2. You might want to ask yourself who is reading more into what you actually see and hear.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:04 PM
Mar 2016

Reality is not a bad place to be at.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
3. The way he 'forgets' about her email?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:06 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie Sanders Calls Hillary Clinton's Emails 'A Very Serious Issue'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-emails_us_56ae254be4b077d4fe8e7023

No, no breaks for "slips" like rude finger waving or confusion on racial issues. Sorry

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
4. Need a President for this reality
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:15 PM
Mar 2016

not still in another reality. Explains a lot.

Reality seems to be BS problem. This is why he glosses over the GOP's obstruction and how things are really achieved per our constitution.

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
5. Your Judgment is Flawed.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:28 PM
Mar 2016

This is one of them. Slip ups like the ones Bernie committed last night are the very sort of thing Republicans will attack relentlessly. Hillary and the Democrats are handling him with kit gloves. If he is the nominee, this will leave the Senator less ready to take them on in the general election. He is done a disservice if we don't rightly address these issues.

You're very disingenuous in your post here. I've found some of your other posts a bit lukewarm when it comes to taking Sanders and his people to task to be honest, but that's inconsequential in regards to this current thread. To get back on point regarding Sanders... For one, Sanders has NOT forgot about the emails. He, his surrogates, and his supporters on this board and across the Internet, have continued to bring it up in speeches and television appearances. So, please... Do spare me this pitty pat, "let's play nice" narrative.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
6. White people not knowing what it's like to be poor or live in a ghetto is way more than a slip.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:33 PM
Mar 2016

It's the product of a mind rooted in 1960's sensibility. In other words, not a mind I would want in my president in 2016. I was a total hippie walking around Chicago in 1968, and even I know this was not just a "slip up". It was a major gaffe. I don't know who has the worst African American outreach....Bernie or the Republican party.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
7. More than a slip
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:45 PM
Mar 2016

I agree. That comment is most likely something he's been saying since the 1970s. And he said it last night despite the recently stats on poor white communities--they are dying at a faster rate than the rest of the population. To dismiss an entire segment of your demographic--disenfranchised blue collar workers--may be in line with ideology but from a human perspective it's just plain wrong. Politically? Tone deaf and dumb.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
9. This is the kind of thing voters hear.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:43 PM
Mar 2016

It isn't us who need to give him a break--it's all those people who heard him last night, and might have been cutting him slack on lots of other things. But it all adds up over time. And if his temperament is such that he can't adjust with the times, then why would he make a good President?

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
11. Temperament and knowledge matter. How he conducts himself,
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 03:58 AM
Mar 2016

and what he says are two crucial components in evaluating his ability to be POTUS. His foreign policy knowledge still sucks, and as mentioned above, his thinking seems mired in a previous decade on racial and poverty issues. No pass from me on those points.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
12. Style matters.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:59 AM
Mar 2016

How you speak to and about people matters. Offending people matters. We all have the ability to change our behaiviour and wording as the situation merits. That matters in a president.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
13. you never get a second chance to make a first impression.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:00 PM
Mar 2016

My first impression was that this man should be kept as far away from the levers of power as possible. Everything about the man says "hothead" and that is a personality trait that does not belong in the White House.

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