Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumMake your guess. When will public and party calls for Bernie to "drop & endorse" happen? (HRC Group)
Not making a snarky post here; more of a figuring out how the future of going to play out.
Anyway, I see a few different times when Bernie could begin feeling pressure to unify behind Clinton for the GE. In order from latest timeframe possible to earliest:
a) When Hillary mathematically secures the nomination through pledged delegates only
b) When the combination of pledged delegates and superdelegate support equal the number to secure the nomination (Technically, she hasn't won it at this point, but she has secured it in all but name)
c) When her delegate lead is statistically impossible/unlikely to be overcome (Earliest lock on this would be after the mid-March primaries)
d) After Super Tuesday
e) After South Carolina
I think you're going to start hearing murmuring that Bernie should get out after Super Tuesday, but I believe that is probably unfair to him and his supporters. My guess is the pressure will really start when Hillary's delegate lead is statistically unlikely to be overcome and will be very loud when the delegate+super threshold is reached. I feel it is at this point that Bernie endorses Clinton to ensure unification and victory in November.
That said, I think you will see a return to Hillary differentiating herself from the Republican Clown Car after Super Tuesday.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)Hillyes
livetohike
(22,142 posts)the states. My guess is he will stay until the convention, if his money holds up, but I think the campaign may be having trouble with that.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)How long can the true believers and the nurses pac keep Bernie afloat?
LuvLoogie
(7,003 posts)I don't think there would be calls except from partisan rank & file.
FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)His money may start to dry up by than.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)but it will become obvious to a blind man after super tuesday.
The only reason he would have to stay in all the way to the convention would be to do maximum damage to Hillary in hopes of her losing the GE.
If you go take a peek at GD:primaries you will see legions of Sanders people who want to stop her way more than the republicans.
MADem
(135,425 posts)There's going to be more of that Wall Street waaah waah, Clinton Foundation waah waah, corporatist, PTB!!! horseshit flung around. If you grow roses, stand by with a shovel and a bucket, because they'll be blooming like mad with all the fertilizer you'll be able to acquire.
They won't go gently until Jane says they're finished. She's running the show. Devine and Weaver take orders from her.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)the Republican Party's nominee? Or is it to ensure that no Republican Party clown will ever enter the White House.
Because fact of the matter is, there is no pathway for Bernie to win the Democratic Party nomination. None.
Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)He's scorch the earth until he has inflicted as much damage as possible and then back to Vermont and back to being an Independent.
or at least is't how I see it
pandr32
(11,582 posts)Either this "revolution" stuff has actually gone to his head, or he has had a nasty streak all along. I think both have some truth to them--Bernie just never really was on a big enough soap box for people to notice his nasty streak before. His ego will need to deflate some before he will be able to get back to work in the Senate where his far-left perspective was always good to throw into the mix. As a senator, Sanders, along with Warren, have helped counter the far-right well.
George II
(67,782 posts)...the upcoming March 1 (Super Tuesday) states, there may be a call from some for Sanders to concede and support Clinton as soon as March 2.
Right now she has a 1 delegate lead, that will probably expand to almost 30 on Saturday.
Then, barring any major shifts (don't forget, we're basically less than a week from Super Tuesday), she'll increase that lead to about 200 delegates. And all states in which Sanders could either win or be very close will have voted by that time, leaving virtually zero mathematical chance of Sanders to overtake that 200 delegate lead.
A side benefit should be that with an approximate 200 delegate lead next Wednesday, the vain argument of the "undemocratic" superdelegates will cease to exist.
obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)imo
onehandle
(51,122 posts)But he has enough cash to hold on for a few weeks.
I say he drops out mid-April, at the latest.
He won't take this to the convention.
The earlier he drops out, the more money the DNC will get from him.
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)He'll drop all April 1st and endorse Clinton.
riversedge
(70,215 posts)Treant
(1,968 posts)If things go as I expect or a little worse, he'll drop when the money dries up. Which should be around Tax Day, plus or minus two weeks.
If he does a little better than I expect, this goes into June.
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)I'm still banking on Sanders the man, rather than the shrill version of Sanders from the St Bernard Brigade. In fact, I think Sanders saw the future after the Nevada loss. There was something about the man during that concession speech that signaled to me at least that Bernie Sanders saw future events cascading out of his reach. He knows SC is a goner for him and the man can read polls like the rest of us. He'll most likely take a couple states on Super Tuesday but the delegate count is what it is.
How far will he take it? The campaign says pugnaciously: on to the Convention. Guess it depends whether Sanders the man makes that decision or Sanders the failed candidate continues to flail against the numbers game.
I hope it's the former. Because we need all the ammunition we can gather to push back the rabid Republicans in November.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)The calls will start after Super Tuesday. They'll start getting real heavy after the Washington State primaries.
Our big problem is, there are enough delusional people in his camp he could, conceivably, run a low-profile campaign all the way to Philadelphia. Our primaries are all proportional so he could bring 500-600 delegates and no supers into the convention hall, then run as Jill Stein's VP on the Green ticket after he loses on the first ballot. This would split the Democratic vote and put Trump into the White House.