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SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 12:08 PM Jun 2016

The First Female Nominee should not have to share...

the same stage with the a man who doesn't concede and endorse her before the convention.

I'm seeing a lot of "suggestions" that Bernie's complacency to the threat that Trump poses should be accommodated. Hell no.

Hillary won and if Bernie won't acknowledge that before the convention, he can speak in the parking lot to his protestors. The last night of the convention is not about him or his "revolution".

/rant over

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The First Female Nominee should not have to share... (Original Post) SaschaHM Jun 2016 OP
He can speak to his farting protestors outside! Freddie Jun 2016 #1
To my knowledge... yallerdawg Jun 2016 #2
He could at the very least concede without endorsing SirBrockington Jun 2016 #14
I must differ. BootinUp Jun 2016 #3
Typical. The female has to be considerate of the male "feels". DawgHouse Jun 2016 #4
Always Ellen Forradalom Jun 2016 #11
I couldn't possibly agree more. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #5
+1! BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #6
As my father would say,... MarianJack Jun 2016 #7
It's called the Nominating Convention for a reason. procon Jun 2016 #8
I am old enough to remember 1960 -- Adlai and Symington, JFK and LBJ nominations splat Jun 2016 #9
Hillary is going to do whatever she thinks she needs to do to win... Walk away Jun 2016 #10
It has nothing to do with gender. The party should not cave in for his blackmail question everything Jun 2016 #12
That is the only rule change that matters: only vetted Democrats allowed to run for president... teamster633 Jun 2016 #16
No bowing down to the loser DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #13
I blame DWS incompetence SirBrockington Jun 2016 #15
He was supposed to debate her from the left, give her a sparring partner splat Jun 2016 #17
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2016 #18
K&R sheshe2 Jun 2016 #19
Hell NO.. no giving in to BS' pouting. Cha Jun 2016 #20
K&R NEDem Jun 2016 #21

Freddie

(9,259 posts)
1. He can speak to his farting protestors outside!
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 12:12 PM
Jun 2016

There's a vast sea of parking lots outside the Wells Fargo Center.

SirBrockington

(259 posts)
14. He could at the very least concede without endorsing
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 02:24 PM
Jun 2016

That is what they do every year in the general. Romney didn't want to, McCain didn't want to... but the same night... they did. And these are Republicans.... along with sixteen other Republicans that dropped out in the primaries this year. He lost. Blaming it or using some excuse of "system rigged"? really? This is relatively unheard of in the history of politics from the class president in high school, state reps, on up the the President of the United States. And to this point someone the media hasn't made him a pariah yet, but have indulge or justified the unjustifiable because its just "Bernie being Bernie" . Would it be nice to endorse? sure. But to not even acknowledge at all? Unbelievable

Ellen Forradalom

(16,159 posts)
11. Always
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 01:12 PM
Jun 2016

Even a Presidential nominee has to perform emotional labor.

Ignore him and leave him fuming is usually the best response to petulant men. Looks like Hill knows this.

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
5. I couldn't possibly agree more.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 12:23 PM
Jun 2016

Let him scream at the pigeons in the park, shake his fist at the sun, wail into the wind. After 35 years in elected office pretending to be 'an outsider" it's what he's most comfortable doing anyways.

procon

(15,805 posts)
8. It's called the Nominating Convention for a reason.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jun 2016

He's nothing but a sour grapes spoiler now. He lost and he's waging a personal vendetta against Hillary. He's so bitter that he's going to try something at the convention, he has an feud against the Democratic Party and he seems intent on retaliation. He's angry that the voters selected Hillary and by slow walking his concession and endorsement, it looks like he's trying to weaken her chance of winning over Trump.

splat

(2,294 posts)
9. I am old enough to remember 1960 -- Adlai and Symington, JFK and LBJ nominations
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 12:59 PM
Jun 2016

Wikipedia tells me there were many nominees:

John F. Kennedy 806 52.89%
Lyndon Johnson 409 26.84%
Stuart Symington 86 5.64%
Adlai Stevenson 79.5 5.25%
Robert B. Meyner 43 2.82%
Hubert Humphrey 41 2.76%
George A. Smathers 30 1.97%
Ross Barnett 23 1.51%
Herschel Loveless 2 0.13%
Pat Brown 1 0%
Orval Faubus 1 0%
Albert Rosellini

There were nominations and seconds and then delegates paraded the aisles with bobbing signs.
When all were done, there was voting, yielding, the great state of...

Will this happen this time with Bernie?

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
10. Hillary is going to do whatever she thinks she needs to do to win...
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 01:01 PM
Jun 2016

the Senate back and a good chunk of the House. She is a real Democrat so down ballot is her mission (just one of the 1000 reasons she is a better candidate than Bernie could ever be).

But make no mistake about it. Bernie lost and I doubt he will walk away with any real power.

question everything

(47,468 posts)
12. It has nothing to do with gender. The party should not cave in for his blackmail
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jun 2016

He puts demands and is not even willing to endorse her?

And he is not even a Democrat. He wants to change the rules to make it easier to someone like him to win next time around. I think we should change the rules so that someone like him cannot run again... unless he is proven Democrat: campaigned and got elected as a Democrat, campaign for other Democrats.

teamster633

(2,029 posts)
16. That is the only rule change that matters: only vetted Democrats allowed to run for president...
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 02:44 PM
Jun 2016

...maybe even for senator, under our banner. I'm not opposed to getting rid of caucuses, but that isn't a high priority. I would enjoy watching the pissing contest that would result between Iowa and NH if that did come to pass.

SirBrockington

(259 posts)
15. I blame DWS incompetence
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 02:29 PM
Jun 2016

for even allowing a person with no skin in the game to run as a Democrat. A flow DEMOCRAT who worked their way through the party would have had influential people in their ear, persons they worked with throughout through the machinations to reach such a position to have the confidence of the party...such is the case with any group, bet it President of a Fraternal organization etc. etc. You let a person in who spent their time being outside of the party, what difference does it make to them if the whole thing blows up or not. He could have run green party from the start, with no media coverage, continued his lack of name recognition, and been on the radar as much as every other green party or libertarian or the "rent is too damn high" guy.

splat

(2,294 posts)
17. He was supposed to debate her from the left, give her a sparring partner
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 03:10 PM
Jun 2016

Debating just Martin O'Malley would not make for riveting TV. She would also be able to move leftward and bring the voters with her once Bernie staked out the extremes, her left shift looking moderate by contrast. This is classic political theory as taught at Wellesley in the late '60s.

He wasn't supposed to pose a real threat, or divide the party.

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