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Cha

(297,375 posts)
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:21 PM May 2016

Just in case anyone hasn't seen this from Skinner on when the GE Officially Begins..

Skinner (61,725 posts)

1. After the primaries on June 7 (California, New Jersey, etc.)...

...we will announce that the primaries are nearing an end, and members will have one more week to "get it out of their systems".

The final Democratic presidential primary is Tuesday, June 14 in Washington DC. People will have one last glorious day of primary season on June 15, and then Democratic Underground general election season begins on Thursday, June 16.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1259&pid=10493

And, this..

Skinner (61,725 posts)

1. It all depends on how you do it.

Thoughtful discussions of Hillary Clinton's private email server and how it might affect the campaign: Fine.

Using Hillary Clinton's private email server as a club in order to beat her down: Not fine.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/125910489

workinclassHero!

Hillary's Group
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Just in case anyone hasn't seen this from Skinner on when the GE Officially Begins.. (Original Post) Cha May 2016 OP
yes I saw Skinner's post... chillfactor May 2016 #1
Two more weeks, chillfactor! Cha May 2016 #3
So happy to see this radical noodle May 2016 #2
Hey rad! Cha May 2016 #4
I'm ready to celebrate radical noodle May 2016 #24
Stay out of gdp.. Cha May 2016 #25
I should stay out of there radical noodle May 2016 #31
I know.. apologies to turnips.. they're the best. I just think of trump as turnip.. can't Cha May 2016 #34
Good to know. sarae May 2016 #5
Oh I agree.. It's a damn long time.. Cha May 2016 #10
About time. savalez May 2016 #6
No kidding! I've been wondering about the "jury system" as it is, too.. will it still be the Cha May 2016 #12
I hope he fixes it. savalez May 2016 #37
Yeah, I'm thinking only pubbies and BBB care about the damn emails.. Cha May 2016 #40
I think a week to get it out of their systems is generous. Starry Messenger May 2016 #7
More than generous.. Cha May 2016 #14
He assumes Blue Idaho May 2016 #8
It's been a vile nasty year with Hillary getting lied about from rwinger sources on DU Cha May 2016 #20
It will be interesting to see who's left. sarae May 2016 #28
K&R! stonecutter357 May 2016 #9
I have a feeling that the second point is... SaschaHM May 2016 #11
Oh yeah.. that's a red flag right there. Hopefullry it won't be settled by biased jury. Cha Jun 2016 #41
Bookmarked! fleabiscuit May 2016 #13
LOL! Cha May 2016 #17
Let us count the days. Sparkly May 2016 #15
14 liberal N proud May 2016 #16
"How do I stand thee? Let me count the days." Sparkly May 2016 #21
Countdown to the end of the year Cha May 2016 #22
I want to be here all those dates. Kaleva May 2016 #18
This is very good news! yallerdawg May 2016 #19
Yes, one would like to think it Cha May 2016 #23
Here is the drill. sheshe2 May 2016 #27
I agree pandr32 Jun 2016 #51
Together we can pass these two weeks! and the Majorly DRAG here will be over! Her Sister May 2016 #26
From Scrooged. sheshe2 May 2016 #29
Mahalo, she.. will listen to this when I get back.. Love Annie Lennox and Al Green! Cha May 2016 #35
... sheshe2 May 2016 #36
Oh Cha! You're such an optimist! Walk away May 2016 #30
I am but Cha Jun 2016 #44
Can't wait. I miss the old DU. nt SunSeeker May 2016 #32
Me too! workinclasszero May 2016 #38
It will be that way for 1/2 of June, July, August, September, October, and early Cha Jun 2016 #45
In 2004 I was for Dean, then Clark, then it was time to grow up. bluestateguy May 2016 #33
Yeah, I've been there, too.. on the losing side.. not lately though.. Cha Jun 2016 #50
Glad its over on the 15th but.. workinclasszero May 2016 #39
I also recommend some of Skinner's recent posts DesertRat Jun 2016 #42
Great Addition, DesertRat.. I'm bummed the juries are going to continue.. Cha Jun 2016 #43
The changes to the jury system will be interesting DesertRat Jun 2016 #53
That is interesting.. one we've been advocating for.. better do it right the first Cha Jun 2016 #57
Good - it's going to be a long hot summer JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #46
Reading some of the other questions and answers in Ask The Administrators, and sarae Jun 2016 #47
Oh yeah, they want to twist themselves into Cha Jun 2016 #48
The most active thread I saw on GD yesterday was on that very topic... teamster633 Jun 2016 #52
I hope Skinner is taking note.. they have no interest in his rules.. Cha Jun 2016 #54
In reading the continued questions in AtA ... LannyDeVaney Jun 2016 #55
Yeah, I noticed that. sarae Jun 2016 #56
Can't wait for June 16th then. hamsterjill Jun 2016 #49

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
24. I'm ready to celebrate
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:16 PM
May 2016

I wake up in the middle of the night thinking about this primary. It's been a nightmare!

Cha

(297,375 posts)
25. Stay out of gdp..
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:28 PM
May 2016

I do and haven't had any nightmares.

I am so glad, though.. that Skinner's doing this for the sake of our Candidate, Hillary Clinton, and for the sake of the Planet.

It's always nice when board called Democratic Underground supports the Democratic candidate for President and doesn't pump up ******* donald the racist turnip.. er, trump.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
31. I should stay out of there
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:12 PM
May 2016

It's like watching a train wreck.

We need to start concentrating on Hillary's accomplishments, the good things she's done and how she can defeat Trump. Donald the racist turnip gave me a chuckle, though.

Cha

(297,375 posts)
34. I know.. apologies to turnips.. they're the best. I just think of trump as turnip.. can't
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:12 PM
May 2016

help myself. Charlie Pierce calls him the vulgar talking yam.

Oh we will have our Big Chance to put all of Hillary's accomplishments on full display once this thing gets going.. without any damn interruptions from the disruptors.. it will be awesome!

rad

sarae

(3,284 posts)
5. Good to know.
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:28 PM
May 2016

Though that seems like a long time (under political cesspool conditions), it's really not. Or that's what I'm telling myself.

Cha

(297,375 posts)
10. Oh I agree.. It's a damn long time..
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:38 PM
May 2016

under those very conditions, sarae.

But, compared to over a year.. I guess we'll rake it! lol

Cha

(297,375 posts)
12. No kidding! I've been wondering about the "jury system" as it is, too.. will it still be the
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:42 PM
May 2016

same.. regulating what are" thoughtful discussions about Hillary's damn emails"?

salvalez~

savalez

(3,517 posts)
37. I hope he fixes it.
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:47 PM
May 2016
regulating what are" thoughtful discussions about Hillary's damn emails"?


Is there such thing as thoughtful discussions about that?

Cha!

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
8. He assumes
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:37 PM
May 2016

There is something left here after so many Hillary Clinton supporters have left to find discussion sites that are moderated to protect freedom of speech and also stop threats, name calling, and other forms of cyber bullying.

Cha

(297,375 posts)
20. It's been a vile nasty year with Hillary getting lied about from rwinger sources on DU
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:54 PM
May 2016

and she has the most negative covering from the m$m.. and trump.

But, Hillary has beaten them all.. BS LOST.

Mahalo, Blue Idaho~

sarae

(3,284 posts)
28. It will be interesting to see who's left.
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:56 PM
May 2016

I'm guessing there will be more people who haven't felt comfortable expressing their support for either HRC or the Dem party under the current circumstances. It's impossible to have a rational, civil discussion about HRC without being verbally attacked, unless you're in this group. It'll be such a relief once we're past Jun 15.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
11. I have a feeling that the second point is...
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:41 PM
May 2016

going to be continuously tested. I can't wait for the post announcing the end on June 7th though. Should be an absolute treat.

Cha

(297,375 posts)
41. Oh yeah.. that's a red flag right there. Hopefullry it won't be settled by biased jury.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:49 AM
Jun 2016

Mahalo, Sascha~

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
19. This is very good news!
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:53 PM
May 2016

Through the end of July would have been a bloody no-turning-back battle royal!

The next week or two is not going to be pretty.

pandr32

(11,594 posts)
51. I agree
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:42 PM
Jun 2016

It will be a meltdown of posts screaming that there is no democracy here, the fix is in--all in the bag with "the Clinton machine" and part of "the establishment" stuff.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
26. Together we can pass these two weeks! and the Majorly DRAG here will be over!
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:31 PM
May 2016

woohoo!!! Great news Cha! Good to see light at the end of this tunnel!

Together it'll be alright! Thanks for this group!

We'll be able to just CELEBRATE HRC"s road to the WHITEHOUSE!!!!

Cha

(297,375 posts)
44. I am but
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:20 AM
Jun 2016

not necessarily about this.. we've been burned for so long.. it will definitely be a wait and see process.

Mahalo, Walk away~

Cha

(297,375 posts)
45. It will be that way for 1/2 of June, July, August, September, October, and early
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:05 AM
Jun 2016

November anyway.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
33. In 2004 I was for Dean, then Clark, then it was time to grow up.
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:09 PM
May 2016

Primaries are hard, but you have to accept that sometimes your candidate will lose.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
42. I also recommend some of Skinner's recent posts
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 01:02 AM
Jun 2016

in the Ask the Administrators Group. He has provided more clarification on what the changes will look like.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1259

Skinner (61,732 posts)
1. I think a lot of people have the wrong idea, and are going to be disappointed.

Last edited Tue May 31, 2016, 09:14 PM - Edit history (1)

We have no intention of purging anyone, and we have no intention of disallowing good-faith discussion of the issues. I think most people are going to be fine with that. But there are going to be a a few people (including both Hillary and Bernie supporters) who are going to be disappointed because the massive crackdown they have been hoping for does not come to pass.

Most people think the big change coming in general election season is that people on this website will need to stop bashing Hillary Clinton. Yes, that's part of it -- but it's not the only thing and it's definitely not the most important thing. The really big change coming in general election season is that people on this website will need to stop bashing each other.

Throughout this primary season we have been in a death spiral of declining standards. So we are going to institute some rules, and we will expect everyone to follow those rules, and we will expect everyone to enforce those rules when they serve on juries. The rules shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone -- they are mostly common sense, and they are basically the same rules we had for years when we had moderators: No personal attacks, no broad-brush group attacks, no bigotry, no right-wing smears or sources against Democrats, no advocating for spoilers or republicans, no meta-discussion, etc.

I am just so tired of people bashing each other and bashing Democrats on this website. I know the hardcore partisans will try to paint this whole thing through the Hillary vs Bernie lens, and drive that wedge as hard as they can, but that is just so not where I am at right now. I don't care who anyone has supported in the primaries -- I really don't. As long as you treat your fellow DU members with respect, stop tearing down Democratic public figures (including Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders and everyone else), and don't advocate for Donald Trump or some lost-cause third-party spoiler candidate, then you'll be fine.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125910488#post1

Cha

(297,375 posts)
43. Great Addition, DesertRat.. I'm bummed the juries are going to continue..
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 01:34 AM
Jun 2016
Throughout this primary season we have been in a death spiral of declining standards. So we are going to institute some rules, and we will expect everyone to follow those rules, and we will expect everyone to enforce those rules when they serve on juries. The rules shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone -- they are mostly common sense, and they are basically the same rules we had for years when we had moderators: No personal attacks, no broad-brush group attacks, no bigotry, no right-wing smears or sources against Democrats, no advocating for spoilers or republicans, no meta-discussion, etc
.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125910488#post1

"Throughout this primary season we have been in a death spiral of declining standards."


No, kidding! They're going to have to be looking @ a lot of jury decisions and who made them.

Mahalo, DesertRat!

Cha

(297,375 posts)
57. That is interesting.. one we've been advocating for.. better do it right the first
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 02:30 PM
Jun 2016

time jurors.. you don't want your decision overturned on appeal because you were biased or didn't hide for an obvious infraction against TOS.

Mahalo, DesertRat

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
46. Good - it's going to be a long hot summer
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:35 AM
Jun 2016

And we need to start attacking Trump sooner rather than later.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
47. Reading some of the other questions and answers in Ask The Administrators, and
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jun 2016

some people want to bash Clinton so badly that they're already trying to figure a way to do so under the new rules. I'm sure we'll see some creative ways of doing it once we're past June 15.

Speaking for myself, I have no desire to bash Bernie as long as he stops bashing Clinton & other Dems. Hopefully everyone's goal will be for the Dem nominee to win in November.

Cha

(297,375 posts)
48. Oh yeah, they want to twist themselves into
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:05 PM
Jun 2016

pretzels to keep bashing Hillary @ all costs.. it's evidently addictive.

Oh, I will stop bashing burnie when he stops bashing Hillary, President Obama, and all our beautiful Dem leaders.. I don't see that happening anytime soon.

teamster633

(2,029 posts)
52. The most active thread I saw on GD yesterday was on that very topic...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jun 2016

...how much could they continue to bash Hillary while staying just this side of the line? Pathetic.

Cha

(297,375 posts)
54. I hope Skinner is taking note.. they have no interest in his rules..
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 01:05 PM
Jun 2016

bashing Hillary is their game.

 

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)
55. In reading the continued questions in AtA ...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 02:13 PM
Jun 2016

it's pretty clear NOTHING will change on June 15th.

Nothing. With every reply, Skinner softens his stance.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
56. Yeah, I noticed that.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 02:19 PM
Jun 2016

I'm assuming criticizing Bernie will be off limits, but it will still be open season on Clinton, under the guise of "constructive criticism."

What's the end goal? Why would you even want to stay on a "Democratic" website if you really want the Dems to lose in November?

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
49. Can't wait for June 16th then.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:16 PM
Jun 2016

Back to some thoughtful and productive discussion, hopefully, minus the fear of being bashed just for supporting the (obvious) Democratic candidate!

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