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Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:54 PM Apr 2016

Jaw-dropping expression of either delusion or a demented attempt at being sinister.

Has anyone else seen something like this?

In a harmless conversation about whether Sanders skipping over to California to campaign was a good idea, I had this exchange:

Me: If things go according to my personal projections that include Sanders winning two of the five primaries next week and cutting deep into HRC's leads in PA, MD, and CT; winning every May and June contest (all by at least 10% and some by 80/20 margins); then, he will need a 66/34 victory in California to beat HRC by 3 delegates.

A Bernie Fan: Evidently you don't understand the entire process leading to convention and the process at convention. There are no real numbers yet. At all.

Me: This is just a big illusion? All the campaigning, voting, debates, and lawsuits are a charade?

A Bernie Fan: Pretty much. As we have been saying. We will use every inch to claim victory so we can change it. Something Hillary won't do.


So, is this pure desperation or some bizzarro plan to turn the convention upside down?
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Jaw-dropping expression of either delusion or a demented attempt at being sinister. (Original Post) Buzz Clik Apr 2016 OP
I'm thinking both. Lucinda Apr 2016 #1
Delusional. Any one of his stans with this kind of thinking is DELUSIONAL!!!! NT UMTerp01 Apr 2016 #2
Bet you felt a bit alternate universey thing there. eom fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #3
Indeed. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #6
Perfect! pandr32 Apr 2016 #24
Neither. It's complete ignorance of how the POTUS election system works ... LannyDeVaney Apr 2016 #4
LOL! Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #5
I was in a discussion in which Al Gore was accused of Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #7
Although some of the Berners at DU are sincere... Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #10
Next thing you know, they'll be petitioning for "Open Carry" in Philadelphia, Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #26
Oh, lordy. Treant Apr 2016 #8
Agreed Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #11
Neat website. savalez Apr 2016 #13
Yep! Treant Apr 2016 #17
Pretty cool. Me likey! savalez Apr 2016 #18
If the thought is some are going to be outside of the convention and their actions is going to get Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #9
The DNC controls the convention, not the candidates. stopbush Apr 2016 #12
There are times when I have to shake my head. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #14
One of the things missing in some of the projections, I think, is that he won't do as well LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #15
They talking about hijacking the convention..... Historic NY Apr 2016 #16
This romana Apr 2016 #19
Yes. They are trying to stack the state delegates with Bennie Supporters. Walk away Apr 2016 #23
Pipe dream. But one thing is sure...Sanders will return to the Senate, the most hated man to ever.. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #20
And he has NO ONE to blame but his own behavior and arrogance. eom BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #21
This is the "Denial" stage of grief NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #22
Is he usually this weird? SharonClark Apr 2016 #25
 

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)
4. Neither. It's complete ignorance of how the POTUS election system works ...
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:58 PM
Apr 2016

They've been sold a load of BS (literally and figuratively).

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
7. I was in a discussion in which Al Gore was accused of
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:03 PM
Apr 2016

"conceding for unities sake," which was utter bullshit.

People there are pretty close to calling for armed rebellion.

There is some disturbing stuff going on.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
10. Although some of the Berners at DU are sincere...
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:39 PM
Apr 2016

... far too many are militant and non-thinking. Those people remind me of Trump's supporters.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
26. Next thing you know, they'll be petitioning for "Open Carry" in Philadelphia,
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:56 PM
Apr 2016

just to be able to back up their bombast with some fire power.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
8. Oh, lordy.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:06 PM
Apr 2016
http://demrace.com/?share=KmSdI1zF

Even being ridiculously kind to Sanders, I can't get him a win.

And once apportioned, they're not going to change--with supers also voting on the first round, it's going to be over in about ten minutes.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
17. Yep!
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:58 PM
Apr 2016

You can set things anywhere you want. As Clinton wins--or does better than the numbers I set--I keep riding the extra delegates into California.

Save it and share it--they'll give you a link.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
9. If the thought is some are going to be outside of the convention and their actions is going to get
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:20 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders the nomination, it will not happen, just as Wall Street continues after the occupy program, the DNC will continue and so will the GE in November and Sanders will not be the nominee.

stopbush

(24,315 posts)
12. The DNC controls the convention, not the candidates.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:42 PM
Apr 2016

Wishful thinking on the part of the Sanders campaign that they can pull off a coup.

LuvLoogie

(6,755 posts)
15. One of the things missing in some of the projections, I think, is that he won't do as well
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:22 PM
Apr 2016

in the open primaries going forward. A large block of his open primary support is more anti-Clinton than it is pro-Bernie. This was illustrated in the Ohio win, where the crossover rallied to Kasich. And it is illustrated in Wisconsin where 14 % of his voters didn't vote for any down ticket Dems or vote in the Supreme Court Race. I think another portion of Bernie's Wisconsin voters actually voted for the Walker Republican.

As the non-Democratic contingent of his voters sees this as Hillary's race, they will be less inclined to fuck with the Democrats and tend to their own house.

Historic NY

(37,407 posts)
16. They talking about hijacking the convention.....
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:33 PM
Apr 2016

Weaver said that they would go to state conventions and try to flip delegates...like they have been doing.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
23. Yes. They are trying to stack the state delegates with Bennie Supporters.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:55 AM
Apr 2016

Delegates vote for the person that won them in the first vote of a contested convention but if it goes to a second vote they can choose whoever they want.

They want to be all set to steal the nomination. They learned that lesson from Cruz.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,191 posts)
20. Pipe dream. But one thing is sure...Sanders will return to the Senate, the most hated man to ever..
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:11 AM
Apr 2016

run on the Democratic ticket. Bank on it!

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