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(11,464 posts)
Fri May 24, 2013, 09:25 PM May 2013

Civil Rights Movement Turned on Collaboration Between LBJ and MLK

Please note- this is in the Barack Obama group. Please respect the SOP of this group.

=========================================================================================There are so many great paragraphs here, that I don't even know which 4 to post.
This entire article needs to be read. Many might not be familiar with the history and this is written a writer(back then they actually had real writers, real investigative reporters.)

This really needs to be read, if one asked me, in my eyes, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and LBJ would be if here today, directly in synch with each other and side by side with President Obama and what President Obama's long term goals and ideals are.
(as are Rep. Lewis(mentioned in this article), and current Rep. Elijah Cumming and so many other heroes (REAL HEROES of our past and present).

(of course IMHO, if Dr. King had not been taken from us, a mere few days before LBJ opted out of 1968 presidential, in all likelihood,
most of what happened that was so bad (Nixon/Ford/Reagan/Bush41/W/Teaparty would almost certainly have never occurred in the first place, and the Vietnam war would have ended in 1968, not years later thanks to Nixon's sabatoge (as shown in articles later on about the real reason for the later Watergate coverup and what Nixon was hiding).

Civil Rights Movement Turned on Collaboration Between LBJ and MLK


---(see article for the top paragraph and for all the others not posted here due to the 4 paragraph limit)

The popular view of Johnson as “a wheeler-dealer who got us into Vietnam and then lied to us about it is so simplistic,” said Kotz. “The complete LBJ has been lost to history.” Similarly, the public remembers King as a great orator, he said, and fails to appreciate him as the “cool, rational, tough, pragmatic politician” who was the “the field general and tactician” of the movement. Kotz followed their relationship day-by-day to see how they interacted. His talk included taped conversations between the two and slides of their meetings and events of the day.

"In the 1960s we went through a civil rights and a social revolution in two years,” Kotz said. The 1964 Civil Rights Act dismantled official segregation, but the change provoked “a period of terrorism,” he said, that saw 2,000 black churches burned in two years and, in Virginia, the shutdown of public schools and state defiance of U.S. Supreme Court decisions. Kotz’s book examines the years between President John F. Kennedy’s assassination in November 1963 and the assassination of King in April 1968. “I tried to look at the interrelationship between the civil rights movement and laws,” he said. That period of social legislation also saw the creation of federal college loan programs, the creation of Medicare and Medicaid, the immigration act of 1965 (which allowed non-Europeans equal access to the United States) and the creation of a national health care system with advanced regional medical centers, Kotz said.

March 7, 1965, the day the 58-mile march was to begin, was a moment of crisis, Kotz said. King had chosen opponents who were ideal for the roles he needed them to play. Selma sheriff James “Bull” Clark liked to dress in a paramilitary style and wore a button that read “Never!” George Wallace, the new governor, had been in office less than two months after running on stridently racist rhetoric: “Segregation yesterday, segregation today, segregation forever!”

John Lewis, then King’s aide, now a congressman from Georgia, carried only an apple to eat on the way because none of them expected to walk even a quarter mile. At the far end of the Edmund Pettus Bridge a “sheriff's auxiliary” of mounted Ku Klux Klansmen paced under restraint. Clark warned the marchers that they had one minute to disperse and then sent the horsemen charging across. The marchers scattered as the Klansmen rode among them swinging batons, clubbing them down.
snip.....so much more,

(and please readers, remember this is posted in the Barack Obama group.)

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Civil Rights Movement Turned on Collaboration Between LBJ and MLK (Original Post) graham4anything May 2013 OP
johnson`s last speech on civil rights madrchsod May 2013 #1
Nobody's perfect IrishAyes May 2013 #2
Thanks for the post. SunSeeker May 2013 #3


(58,162 posts)
1. johnson`s last speech on civil rights
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:57 PM
May 2013

if it was`t for lbj we would`t be along as far as we are now.i consider him second only to roosevelt as the greatest president in the last century and well into this century.


(6,151 posts)
2. Nobody's perfect
Sat May 25, 2013, 06:39 PM
May 2013

But it's downright stupid and other unrepeatable words to fail to give credit where credit's due. And I believe LBJ for all his warts has a lot of gratitude due him.


(51,095 posts)
3. Thanks for the post.
Sat May 25, 2013, 08:39 PM
May 2013

I was unaware there were KKK on horseback waiting on the other side of the bridge. I'd always heard they were sheriffs. Of course, at the time, there was not a whole lot of difference between the two.

Sad you gotta include 2 reminders that this is the BOG..just to keep the Obama haters from hijacking this thread.

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