Pierre Peladeau senior created Quebecor. He left a huge fortune to his sons. The eldest, PKP, as he is known in Quebec, is now a member of the PQ representing Ste Jerome.

From the link:

"In 2012, Pierre Karl and his brother Erik Péladeau ranked 97th on Canadian Business magazine's list of 100 richest Canadians, with a net worth of $673 million.

The Péladeau family, initially led by their deceased father Pierre, created Quebecor, whose holdings include the right-wing Sun newspaper chain, the right-wing Sun News Network (sometimes called Fox News North), and the 24 hours papers."
(http://www.straight.com/news/603461/media-mogul-pierre-karl-peladeau-runs-parti-quebecois)

riverbendviewgal

(4,254 posts)

2. I live in a small railroad town and read the Sunshine list. and

Reply to shockedcanadian (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2015, 05:33 PM

Mar 2015

quite a few train engineers who live here work lots of over time. Also many law enforcement they too make a lot of over time.

The list has Hydro employees, municipal and provincial officials, education managers.

Some of theses people are in management and some in unions.

There is over 13.6 million people in Ontario.

I think the Sunshine list a good thing to have.

It Seems to me it shows that being in a union and/or having a good education is a good thing.

I find people who don't approve are those who did not have the opportunity or want to take these choices resentful.

shockedcanadian

(751 posts)

3. I think you're characterization is misguided...

Reply to shockedcanadian (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2015, 06:20 PM

Mar 2015

Engineers and management I can understand earning a high wage, but there are many on this list who don't have special skills, and there are probably too many individuals in management as a whole. I was in my MBA program, I had to complete my four year Honours, have high grades and score very well on the GMAT just for admittance. It doesn't mean I deserve more money than many others, but it does mean that I know that skill, hard work and commitment should outweigh nepotism. There are tonnes of people on this list with a high school education who did what exactly to justify such a large salary?

Resentment isn't the right word, a dislike of entitlement is more appropriate. A lack of concern that citizens have for the future of this country when this debt is passed on to grandkids and their kids.
Did you see the list of those working for the TTC making over $100k a year? This doesn't include benefits, pensions or those making $75-$99k a year. Some of these on the list don't even drive a bus, they sit at a toll booth (something that could be automated).

It has been stated multiple times that the private sector pays significantly less than the public sector and this is outside of the benefits that are enjoyed. I am not against people earning a good wage if it is warranted, in fact, I think it is necessary for a capitalist system to encourage hard work and ambition in it's work force and reward appropriately. I am against rewarding poor/sub-par employees, life time employment, "group raises" whether one is a better employee than the next person, employment because mom or dad worked in the same government office. You should be paid what your replacement value would be, in other words the private sector rewards most citizens on a supply/demand basis. If they need to attract better and/or more skilled employees, salaries increase...and vice versa.

Here is a link to the provincial debt clocks. At the moment $279 Billion dollars in Ontario, the highest of any province, $20,000 per person.

http://www.debtclock.ca/provincial-debtclocks/ontario/

I am a socially progressive person, I am supportive of healthcare, education and other government entities that are needed. I am not in support of fiscal abuse of those in these roles while Canada's future hangs in the balance. The balance has simply not been struck in Ontario.

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