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thecytron

(49 posts)
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 12:18 PM Jun 2014

Expanded Aboriginal's Title Rights, the final nail in Harper Tar Sand project's coffin!!!

Remember this day, June 26, 2014, because it's a very good day indeed.

The following article from Globe and Mail tells you "why":

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/supreme-court-expands-aboriginal-title-rights-in-unanimous-ruling/article19347252/

I can only hope this Supreme Court Ruling goes beyond SYMBOLISM, and becomes a true Game Changer.

Is it the end of the all the Environmental Rapes this country has seen in the past 40 years?

Only Time can tell!!!

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Expanded Aboriginal's Title Rights, the final nail in Harper Tar Sand project's coffin!!! (Original Post) thecytron Jun 2014 OP
From the link randys1 Jun 2014 #1
I don't think it will be the end laundry_queen Jun 2014 #2
You know it? thecytron Jun 2014 #3
I attended a community meeting about the pipeline tonight arikara Jun 2014 #4

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. From the link
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 12:22 PM
Jun 2014
The case has enormous implications for the proposed Northern Gateway pipeline. British Columbia has hundreds of unresolved land claims, and the pipeline would cross some of those lands.



this is Keystone, right? this could end Keystone?

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
2. I don't think it will be the end
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 05:47 PM
Jun 2014

basically, the aboriginal leader on tv this morning said now they could get a cut and use that money to improve their communities...I wonder if this is one of those instances where they will be against it, unless the price is right...I hope not. I'm sure it will be the end of the Northern Gateway pipeline though...not sure about all of the Tar sands.

 

thecytron

(49 posts)
3. You know it?
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 07:27 PM
Jun 2014

Personally, I am very sceptical about the whole thing.

But that's just me...!

What we are dealing with are Dark Issues of the human nature kind - GREED and STUPIDITY!

Over the years, both GREED and STUPIDITY have proven to be a very contagious pathogenic mixture. Often enough, this very same mixture fuels the corruption of our public officials.

That to me is the real danger. Especially when the patient(s), our public officials, won't acknowledged the disastrous influences they may have on the rest of us.

Consequently, what we really need is a new paradigm shift in the way we think about our rightful place on this planet.

Unfortunately, it ain't gonna happen over night!

In the end, this issue will undoubtedly determined just how sick our societies have become these days!

arikara

(5,562 posts)
4. I attended a community meeting about the pipeline tonight
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:32 AM
Jun 2014

Several speakers. Ex Federal Environment Minister David Anderson, Dogwood Kai Nagata, a local councillor, a First Nations speaker and a Dogwood organizer. They are optimistic that its a dead deal because there is so much opposition in BC. David Anderson talked about how expensive the tar sands oil is to produce, where the prices have to be around $100 a barrel in order to afford to even extract the stuff, and Iraq can produce better oil for $5 a barrel. Other things he said: there is no signed agreement with China or any other country to buy the stuff, Enbridge and the gov't is just assuming that if they get it to Kitimat it the Chinese will take it. He also said that China is busy buying up all the oil from Africa and I forget where else. That there were 10-12 companies that each chipped in around 10 million dollars apiece with Enbridge to see if they could make this thing happen and that the government won't say who they are, citing corporate privacy or some such crap.

He talked about how flawed the review panel process was, and that they didn't look at all at the corporate culture of Enbridge and they totally disregarded the American panel finding of Enbridge to be as stupid as Keystone cops over the Kalamazoo spill and that Enbridge has not changed anything in spite of how badly they handled that. Kai Nagata talked about the referendum in Kitimat and how that knocked the stuffing out of Enbridge and Harper as they were expecting a nice PR boost from it. He said even he was surprised at how passionate the people in Kitimat were about the issue and how they made fun of the Enbridge brigade touring around in their black SUV's.

The FN rep talked about how they took the reserve to $0 hydro bill with solar energy and how everyone can learn from their process. He also said that Hydro has this deal where they finance $20,000 worth of solar and wind energy and you pay it back with the value of what you put back into the grid. I really hope I didn't misunderstand that part.

Dogwood is pre-organizing the province for either an initiative and referendum like we did with the HST, or prepping for the upcoming federal election whichever comes along first.

I left there feeling pretty good about it all.

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