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Gothmog

(145,154 posts)
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 06:05 PM Dec 2011

Attorney General Eric Holder is speaking at the LBJ School tonight

Eric Holder is speaking at the LBJ school tonight. Susan and Don Bankston are going to be there. Susan heard that there will be 500 republicans present to protest AG Holder.

I am hoping that Holder will discuss the Texas voter id law and the redistricting issues.

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Attorney General Eric Holder is speaking at the LBJ School tonight (Original Post) Gothmog Dec 2011 OP
Probably announce a new attack on State-licensed MMJ growers. He hates those People. n/t Scuba Dec 2011 #1
I went to the talk tonight sonias Dec 2011 #2
Did you see Susan and Don Bankston? Gothmog Dec 2011 #4
No I did not see them and I would recognize them sonias Dec 2011 #5
On November 17, 2011, the DOJ asked for more information Gothmog Dec 2011 #7
Thanks for the update sonias Dec 2011 #8
I was one of the speakers at Al Green's town hall on the voter id law Gothmog Dec 2011 #9
Me too - hope DOJ does not pre-clear it sonias Dec 2011 #10
There will be a number of lawsuits Gothmog Dec 2011 #11
I'm sure there will sonias Dec 2011 #12
AG Eric Holder: We Must Uphold Voting Rights Act sonias Dec 2011 #3
Transcript of the speech sonias Dec 2011 #6

sonias

(18,063 posts)
2. I went to the talk tonight
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:44 PM
Dec 2011

It was very good. Brief but good. Basically he said his Dept would vigorously defend the Voting Rights Act and that it was very appropriate to make that speech at LBJ since he was the President that passed the historic act. And he said that if it wasn't for the VRA and Kennedy and LBJ's work, he would not be the Attorney General four decades later.

He also said that of course it is unfortunate that we still need the act 40 plus years later, but we do. Still lots of voter suppression examples all around the country.

He could not talk specifically about the Texas Voter ID case or the redistricting case other than to say that DOJ would review it vigorously and would defend against any attempt to violate the spirit of the VRA.

Unfortunately the gerrymandering that goes on in drawing these ridiculous looking districts is not illegal, that's just partisan politics that's allowed. But what isn't allowed is diluting the strength of minority voting districts.

I'm in total agreement with him on expanding the franchise and modernizing our voter registration so that every eligible voter is registered. The concept is called universal registration and the responsibility falls on the government agencies to make sure all eligible voters are registered.

While the rest of the world is awakening in their fights to expand their democracy, the U.S. is trying to choke it by voter suppression. Well at least the republicans are, anyway.

Gothmog

(145,154 posts)
4. Did you see Susan and Don Bankston?
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 10:41 AM
Dec 2011

Susan and Don were at this speech

It is my understanding that the State of Texas has not yet responded to the DOJ's request for information on breakdown of the 605,000 registered Texas voters who do not have the required ID and so the DOJ does not need to respond. Currently, the earliest that the DOJ has to take a position on these laws is December 27 and that is with respect to the South Carolina law.

sonias

(18,063 posts)
5. No I did not see them and I would recognize them
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 11:52 AM
Dec 2011

It's a really big auditorium though so no surprise about not seeing them.

Also I didn't go to the early protest event that "True the Vote" creeps were at. Maybe Susan and Don showed up there first. I heard it was not a huge event from other people there. There were not 500 people at the protest in other words. Some one I talked to said maybe 75.

I only went to the talk that started a little after 6pm. So I went straight to the auditorium. By the time we got there there were only 2 people I saw holding protest signs in the front of the LBJ Library.

The State of Texas did respond to a DOJ's request for breakdown of ethnicity impact - but they cheated. What they did was pass on the census database information and an offer to match DPS driver's license information for Spanish surnames. I don't know if DOJ has asked for subsequent information about the 605,000 registered voters, but there is no doubt in my mind that the State of Texas has no frigging idea how many eligible voters in Texas will be disenfranchised with their proposed Voter ID rule, nor do they care.

Texas Tribune 10/5/11
Texas Secretary of State Responds to Feds on Voter ID

(snip)

The state, though, does not collect race information from voters. So the secretary of state instead submitted to the Department of Justice a list of all the Hispanic surnames in Texas, as recorded by the U.S. Census Bureau. It offered to check that list against the list of registered voters to determine how many voters have Hispanic names. The DOJ refused to comment when asked last week if the state’s inability to provide the racial breakdown as requested would delay or even prevent the preclearance request.

The secretary of state also gave the Department of Justice a spreadsheet showing how many registered voters reside in each county as of Sept. 16. It shows how many voters did not provide an ID when they registered to vote, how many voters did not provide an ID but whose records matched an ID record in the DPS database (which means they have been issued an ID) and those who did not provide an ID and could not be matched with a DPS record.

The department also asked for more information on the voter education program the state is required to roll out to educate voters about the new requirements. The secretary gave the department details of a request for proposals to implement a “statewide voter education program” that includes instructions on how to register to vote, how to cast a ballot, polling place procedures and photo ID requirements.

Gothmog

(145,154 posts)
7. On November 17, 2011, the DOJ asked for more information
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 02:54 PM
Dec 2011

The article that you posted describes the October 5, 2011 response by the State of Texas. On November 17, 2011, the DOJ asked for more information http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/politics/entries/2011/11/17/voter_id_law_approval_hits_new.html?cxntfid=blogs_postcards The additional information requested deals with the racial breakdown of the 605,000 registered Texas voters who do not have the required ID. The Brennan Center looked at the information provided in the prior filing and came to the conclusion that the data in the October 5, 2011 filing shows that the Texas voter Id law has a discriminatory effect on Hispanic voters http://www.brennancenter.org/blog/archives/texass_own_data_reveals_discriminatory_impact_of_voter_id_law/ There is some speculation that the State of Texas knows that the requested data would help the DOJ make a good case for the rejection of the Texas law

Gothmog

(145,154 posts)
9. I was one of the speakers at Al Green's town hall on the voter id law
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 07:47 PM
Dec 2011

I have been following this issue closely for some time and have given speeches on this law to the Fort Bend Democratic Party, the Fort Bend Silver Democrats and to the Senate District 18 summit for all of the counties in SD 18.

This law is horrible and is subject to a number of challenges including that it is a poll tax. The final regulations from the Texas Department of Public Safety make clear that you can not get a "free" id without paying for a birth certificate. The ACLU in Wisconsin is suing on the Wisconsin version of this law baed on the poll tax issue and a similiar lawsuit will be filed in Texas if the DOJ does not block this law. I really hope that the DOJ denies preclearance to this law.

Gothmog

(145,154 posts)
11. There will be a number of lawsuits
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 02:06 AM
Dec 2011

Rep. Al Green is also planning on filing suit. He has recruited some good plaintiffs. One of the attorneys for the ACLU was at Rep. Green's town hall and they indicated that they will file suit. The League of Women Voters has also been following this issue and may also get involved. There will be a number of lawsuits filed if the DOJ does not block this law.

sonias

(18,063 posts)
12. I'm sure there will
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 11:02 AM
Dec 2011

If not ACLU then MALDEF since a good portion of the population that will be affected is Latino.

You are absolutely on point in your earlier post about "free ID at DPS" not being free. This is so difficult to explain to the average voter who thinks this is "reasonable". Why not make everyone get an ID, they say. Well that would be fine if the state really meant for everyone to have free photo ID and the burden was on the government. I would be for that effort. But in order to do that the state would have to put massive resources in the state, as well as making all the required proof of who you are free. Lets just start with birth certificates. If the Texas voter was born in Texas a copy costs about $11. But the requirement at DPS is that you have an original or certified copy of the birth certificate. I have no idea what a certified copy costs but I bet it adds another $5-$10 since you probably need a notary to affix their seal on it.

What if the person was born out of state? Shouldn't the state also cover getting a copy of that certificate too? It's more expensive in some states.

And let's not forget that there are there are many counties that don't have a DPS office period. I can't remember the exact number but with budget closures I seem to remember it being more than 100 or so. There are 254 counties in Texas. Sure some of them are small but not all of them are spread out.




Texas Politics blog 3/23/11
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/texas-politics/2011/03/dairy-queens-but-no-dps-offices/
Dairy Queens but no DPS offices

Rep. Pete Gallego, D-Alpine represents a sprawling district that covers 38,000 square miles and includes plenty of Dairy Queens.

(snip)
Gallego complained that voters in his remote district should not have to drive a hundred miles to get a DPS sponsored ID card if they don’t have a driver’s license.

Rural counties that don’t have a DPS office should be exempted from the bill because people in remote areas should not be forced to drive long distances to get a photo ID, Gallego argued.

He lost, 100-49.

sonias

(18,063 posts)
3. AG Eric Holder: We Must Uphold Voting Rights Act
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 12:58 AM
Dec 2011
Texas Tribune 12/13/11

AG Eric Holder: We Must Uphold Voting Rights Act

The warning from U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder was polite but firm: The U.S. Department of Justice will not stand idly by if it feels Texas intends to halt or reverse gains for minority voting rights.

That was the message Holder delivered on the University of Texas campus at the library of President Lyndon B. Johnson, who signed the Voting Rights Act in 1965. Holder spoke just as Texas is squaring off with federal government over two major political voting issues: redistricting and voter ID.

Holder said that the redistricting maps legislators drew this year show that gains made under the Voting Rights Act are being challenged by a Legislature intent on protecting incumbents rather than on having candidates compete for votes.

Maps the Republican-dominated Legislature drew, he said, fail to reflect the burgeoning Hispanic growth in Texas, as indicated by the 2010 U.S. Census.


sonias

(18,063 posts)
6. Transcript of the speech
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 11:56 AM
Dec 2011
Policy Shop 12/14/11

Transcript: US Attorney General Holder Criticizes Voter ID Laws, Calls For Greater Access in Speech at the LBJ Library & Museum

(snip)

Nearly half a century has passed since a national tragedy catapulted Lyndon Johnson to the Presidency, and at the same time `launched a new chapter in America’s story. Those of us who lived through those painful days will never forget LBJ’s first Presidential speech – to a nation in mourning, and in desperate need of strong and steady leadership. After quoting the 1961 inaugural address in which President Kennedy famously declared, “Let us begin,” President Johnson outlined the unfinished business of the civil rights agenda. Then – with three simple words – he gave voice to the goals of his Presidency, and issued a challenge that has echoed through the ages: “Let us continue.”

In fulfilling this directive, President Johnson – and the many leaders, activists, and ordinary citizens who shared his vision and determination – set our country on a course toward remarkable, once-unimaginable, progress. Together, they opened new doors of opportunity, helping to ensure equal access to schools and public spaces, to restaurants and workplaces, and – perhaps most important of all – to the ballot box. Our great nation was transformed.

In 1965, when President Johnson signed the landmark Voting Rights Act into law, he proclaimed that, “the right to vote is the basic right, without which all others are meaningless.”

Today, as Attorney General, I have the privilege – and the solemn duty – of enforcing this law, and the other civil rights reforms that President Johnson championed. This work is among the Justice Department’s most important priorities. And our efforts honor the generations of Americans who have taken extraordinary risks, and willingly confronted hatred, bias, and ignorance – as well as billy clubs and fire hoses, bullets and bombs – to ensure that their children, and all American citizens, would have the chance to participate in the work of their government. The right to vote is not only the cornerstone of our system of government – it is the lifeblood of our democracy. And no force has proved more powerful – or more integral to the success of the great American experiment – than efforts to expand the franchise.


Full text of speech at link above.

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