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Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 06:59 PM Jan 2012

11 earthquakes in the Youngstown area this year

and we are still told that there is no "proof" that the injection well operating close to the epicenters of all of these earthquakes is the cause. There is no "proof", even though the first earthquake occurred after the injection well started to accept "brine" water.

http://www.ohio.com/news/local-news/northeast-ohio-rocked-by-11th-earthquake-linked-to-youngstown-injection-wells-1.252977

Besides being extremely concerned about this flurry of earthquakes, I can't help but worry about the use of the term "brine water" for the fracking fluids that are being disposed of in these wells. This is not "brine", which is salty water. This is a concoction of toxin chemicals, radioactive elements, diesel fuel, and god knows what (since we are not told what is in it---proprietary, ya know). When they get away with using the term "brine water", it sounds so mundane.

I live in PA, on the border with OH just east of Youngstown, and I hope that people in Ohio are paying attention. In Ohio, they have no restriction on injection wells, although other states do---so these other states are sending all their waste to Ohio (again) for disposal.

I know, jobs are needed in this area. But I am not willing to trade my life and property for the jobs. Cost-benefit ratios just don't add up on this one.

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11 earthquakes in the Youngstown area this year (Original Post) Curmudgeoness Jan 2012 OP
This is all very scary ladym55 Jan 2012 #1
Don't think it is only in SE OH. Curmudgeoness Jan 2012 #2
SE Ohio is where I'm hearing about lots of leasing via Chesapeake ladym55 Jan 2012 #3
You said a mouthful there. Curmudgeoness Jan 2012 #4
Here's a link to a video that provides[**uh**] "proof" of what's causing those earthquakes: Petrushka Jan 2012 #5
The one error in this report Curmudgeoness Jan 2012 #6
Proprietary--just like our voting machines. As Sister Mary Joseph used to say, valerief Jul 2012 #7

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
1. This is all very scary
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 10:21 PM
Jan 2012

It only took 11 earthquakes, but Ohio stopped those TWO wells on Friday. Who knows what other damage has been done? While we accept the waste water from Pennsylvania fracking operations, Chesapeake is very busy buying up farm land in depressed counties in the southeastern part of the state so fracking can begin in earnest here.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
2. Don't think it is only in SE OH.
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 10:45 PM
Jan 2012

One of the bosses where I work lives in Canfield, in a wealthy suburb, and he is tickled pink that the subdivision has sold the rights to drill under their property. This is not backwoods Columbiana county.

And, yes, two of the many injection wells were shut down, but we do not know if that is temporary or not. They keep throwing that "proof" thing around. I am not sure how you prove it.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
3. SE Ohio is where I'm hearing about lots of leasing via Chesapeake
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:37 PM
Jan 2012

But I imagine the leasing is going far and wide. This is going to be a giant mess. The PR is that this will save the state's economy, but at what cost?

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
6. The one error in this report
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 09:00 PM
Jan 2012

is that it is due to fracking drilling, and that is not the case. That site is an injection well for fracking fluids---not exactly the same thing. It is related the the fracking industry, but this was not a fracked well.

But with that said, this was a great video----I love that they had the google earth view of the site that was the epicenter. If that doesn't tell you something, you are just not paying attention, or are intent on denying it (like the people operating the injection well).

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