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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:47 AM Jan 2022

Thieves Raiding Cargo Containers, Stealing Packages On Downtown Section Of Union Pacific Train...

Hat tip, Dave Weigel

The area is littered with thousands of shredded boxes and items, from retailers like Amazon and REI, that robbers left behind, despite Union Pacific's numerous efforts to clean up the tracks over the last several months



Thieves Raiding Cargo Containers, Stealing Packages On Downtown Section Of Union Pacific Train...
The area is littered with thousands of shredded boxes and items, from retailers like Amazon and REI, that robbers left behind, despite Union Pacific's patrols and numerous efforts to clean up the...

David Weigel Retweeted

Keep hearing of train burglaries in LA on the scanner so went to #LincolnHeights to see it all. And… there’s looted packages as far as the eye can see. Amazon packages,
@UPS
boxes, unused Covid tests, fishing lures, epi pens. Cargo containers left busted open on trains.
@CBSLA

I’m told by law enforcement these
@UPS
bags are especially sought after by thieves opening cargo containers… they are often full of boxes with merchandise bound for residential addresses. More valuable than say, a cargo container full of low value bulky items like toilet paper.



This opened package from
@REI
destined for Bainbridge Island, WA was taken off a train. Typing in the
@UPS
tracking # and it obviously lists it as “delayed.” We found lots of opened packages bound for the Northwest along this section of tracks.



As you can see, trains frequently slow or stop in this area as they get worked into the
@UnionPacific
Intermodal facility near Downtown LA. The thieves use this opportunity to break open containers and take what’s inside. I’d say every 4th or 5th rail car had opened containers.



Missing a package? Shipment delayed? Maybe your package is among the thousands we found discarded along the tracks. This is but one area thieves have targeted trains. We were told this area was just cleaned up 30 days ago so what you see is all within the last month.
@CBSLA



Responsibility for policing the railroad right of way falls on Union Pacific Police... not local agencies like LAPD. We did see Union Pacific police chasing two people today off the tracks and keeping an eye on things.


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Thieves Raiding Cargo Containers, Stealing Packages On Downtown Section Of Union Pacific Train... (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2022 OP
weird. Train passes near me in OC... 400 cars long, each stacked with two containers Demovictory9 Jan 2022 #1
Thieves Raiding Cargo Containers, Stealing Packages On Downtown Section Of Union Pacific Train... mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2022 #2
Like how armoured trucks (eg, Brinks) have armed guards intrepidity Jan 2022 #3
Brinks trucks are about twenty-five feet long. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2022 #11
We had an area in Hoboken NJ on the River Line where the thieves would break into cars... DEbluedude Jan 2022 #4
Thanks for the report. I haven't heard from you in a while. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2022 #5
Your welcome! DEbluedude Jan 2022 #6
That's now the Potomac Yard shopping center. It has a Target and, as of a few weeks ago, mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2022 #7
Yes it is. I remember the scuttlebutt going around (late 70's-early 80's) amongst the crews... DEbluedude Jan 2022 #8
"Sources told CBSLA that the locks Union Pacific uses are easy to cut" chia Jan 2022 #9
Locks only keep out honest people. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2022 #10
Union Pacific: Train Robberies Up 356% Due To LA County DA George Gascon's No-Cash Bail Policy mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2022 #12
Search Google News mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2022 #13
Thousands Of Stolen Packages And Empty Boxes Littering Railway Is Shocking, Totally Expected mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2022 #14
Train derails near LA site of recent wave of cargo thefts mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2022 #15
For UP, Cargo Thefts Spike in L.A. County mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2022 #16
LA councilman blasts train theft 'chaos,' calls them 'a threat to our economy' mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2022 #17

Demovictory9

(32,432 posts)
1. weird. Train passes near me in OC... 400 cars long, each stacked with two containers
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:50 AM
Jan 2022

never imagined that people were able to rob them. But makes sense. Must take a long time to load up the train...giving people chance to break in.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
2. Thieves Raiding Cargo Containers, Stealing Packages On Downtown Section Of Union Pacific Train...
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:01 AM
Jan 2022
The area is littered with thousands of shredded boxes and items, from retailers like Amazon and REI, that robbers left behind, despite Union Pacific's numerous efforts to clean up the tracks over the last several months



Thieves Raiding Cargo Containers, Stealing Packages On Downtown Section Of Union Pacific Train...
The area is littered with thousands of shredded boxes and items, from retailers like Amazon and REI, that robbers left behind, despite Union Pacific's patrols and numerous efforts to clean up the...

Thieves Raiding Cargo Containers, Stealing Packages On Downtown Section Of Union Pacific Train Tracks

By CBSLA Staff | January 13, 2022 at 4:46 pm | Filed Under: Downtown Los Angeles, Union Pacific, Union Pacific Railroad

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA) – A section of the Union Pacific train tracks in downtown Los Angeles has been littered with thousands of shredded boxes, packages stolen from cargo containers that stop in the area to unload.

Thieves have been raiding the cargo containers, taking packages that belong to people from all over the country from retailers like Amazon, REI and others. ... The refuse left behind, like home COVID test kits, are items that the robbers did not want or did not think were valuable enough to take.

Sources told CBSLA that the locks Union Pacific uses are easy to cut, and officials with the Los Angeles Police Department said they don’t respond to reports of a train robbery unless Union Pacific asks them for help, which they said is rare.

While CBSLA was on the scene with cameras, one person was seen running off with a container used to hold smaller packages, and a Union Pacific officer was spotted chasing after two other people who appeared to be rifling through packages.

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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
11. Brinks trucks are about twenty-five feet long.
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 10:45 AM
Jan 2022

Container trains are about a mile or a mile and a half long.

On trucks, guards can see everything. On trains, where are the guards supposed to be positioned?

DEbluedude

(816 posts)
4. We had an area in Hoboken NJ on the River Line where the thieves would break into cars...
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:28 AM
Jan 2022

while we were moving! It was a 10 MPH track and we'd get a moving police escort where 3-4 patrol cars would drive next to the train. Those were the days!

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
5. Thanks for the report. I haven't heard from you in a while.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:40 AM
Jan 2022

CSX sends a lot of container traffic through my fair city, Alexandria, Virginia. They stop only to wait for other trains to clear the two-track bridge across the Potomac River. They can be a mile or a mile and a half long.

Happy New Year.

DEbluedude

(816 posts)
6. Your welcome!
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:51 AM
Jan 2022
I worked out of Pot Yard for about 15 years starting in the mid seventies. The last time I drove through the area I believe they were starting construction on a mall of some sort. The only remnants of the yard that I saw was the old RFP tower that was next to the main line, which paralleled the highway. From what I understand the main line was moved to the river/airport side of the property.

Happy New Year to you!

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
7. That's now the Potomac Yard shopping center. It has a Target and, as of a few weeks ago,
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:53 AM
Jan 2022

a Total Beverage. A new Metrorail stop is going up behind the Target.

It's hard to believe what used to be there.

DEbluedude

(816 posts)
8. Yes it is. I remember the scuttlebutt going around (late 70's-early 80's) amongst the crews...
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:59 AM
Jan 2022

about closing the yard. Never gonna happen! No way!! They'll never be able to do that! NOT.

chia

(2,244 posts)
9. "Sources told CBSLA that the locks Union Pacific uses are easy to cut"
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 10:39 AM
Jan 2022

Wondering why Union Pacific doesn't get better locks?

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
10. Locks only keep out honest people.
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 10:44 AM
Jan 2022

The gangs will hit a few local Home Depots and walk out with portable angle grinders.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
12. Union Pacific: Train Robberies Up 356% Due To LA County DA George Gascon's No-Cash Bail Policy
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 01:49 PM
Jan 2022
Union Pacific: Train Robberies Up 356% Due To LA County DA George Gascón's No-Cash Bail Policy

{snip video}

Medical equipment, designer handbags, luggage, throw pillows, airline parts, children’s artwork, even a new wine fridge – all those items and more have been found stolen off Union Pacific trains and discarded alongside the tracks in East LA.
17 HOURS AGO

{no text, just the video}

Full disclosure: I own shares of Union Pacific.

Google maps shows that the line serves a UPS distribution center just west of where the thefts are occurring.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
14. Thousands Of Stolen Packages And Empty Boxes Littering Railway Is Shocking, Totally Expected
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 07:56 PM
Jan 2022
Trainlopnik

Thousands Of Stolen Packages And Empty Boxes Littering Railway Is Shocking, Totally Expected

Porch pirates are so 2021, now desperate people are going straight to the source

By Erin Marquis
Friday 9:29AM

Trains in downtown Los Angeles are traveling on rail lines covered with torn open packages and empty boxes after people raided cargo cars for the booty therein. For everyone playing Societal Collapse at home, we’re now at the wholesale train heist portion of our regression:



The packages are largely from retailers like Amazon and REI. Packages that contained less valuable items, like still incredibly expensive Epi pens and hard-to-find rapid home COVID-19 tests, didn’t have a high enough resale value or usefulness and were left on the tracks with the rest of the debris.

This certainly isn’t a new problem, as Union Pacific admitted to cleaning the tracks at least every other month. Seems like it may need to step up the pace. Police say they don’t interfere with the rail yards unless requested, which is rare as rail companies operate their own security. The problem is so acute that CBS Local caught someone in the act while reporting from the yard:

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Stealing is not a good thing to do, we all know that. Thieves are out to make a quick buck at the expense of someone else. But this strikes me more as desperate, wholesale looting than property crime, and we should expect to see more of it as we ignore the mass suffering caused by rampant income inequality.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
15. Train derails near LA site of recent wave of cargo thefts
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 07:43 PM
Jan 2022
Train derails near LA site of recent wave of cargo thefts

Crews are making railroad repair in Los Angeles after a train derailed near the location where thieves have been raiding cargo containers, leaving the tracks littered with empted boxes of packaged goods sent by retailers

By The Associated Press
January 17, 2022, 4:00 PM • 2 min read

LOS ANGELES -- Crews made railroad repairs in Los Angeles Monday after a train derailed near the location where thieves have been raiding cargo containers, leaving the tracks littered with emptied boxes of packaged good sent by retailers.

It wasn't immediately clear if the derailment that happened Saturday was caused by the debris left behind by thieves in the Lincoln Heights area near downtown Los Angeles. Union Pacific said the cause of the derailment was under investigation.

{snip}

The derailment caused 17 train cars to go off the tracks, Union Pacific said in a statement. No injuries were reported.

{snip}

Amusing factoid: the link for "investigation" goes to alerts about Matt Gaertz.



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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
16. For UP, Cargo Thefts Spike in L.A. County
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 08:42 PM
Jan 2022
January 18, 2022 Class I, Freight, Intermodal, News

For UP, Cargo Thefts Spike in L.A. County

Written by Marybeth Luczak, Executive Editor



Recent cargo thefts from UP trains have left the railroad’s property littered with debris.

Following a recent spike in cargo thefts from its trains in Los Angeles County, Union Pacific (UP) has not only increased the number of special agents assigned to protect targeted areas, but also contacted L.A. County District Attorney George Gascón for support.

“The thefts involve criminals trespassing on Union Pacific property, climbing aboard trains and breaking into customers’ containers loaded with cargo, packages and merchandise destined to warehouse facilities around the country,” UP General Director-Public Affairs Adrian Guerrero wrote in UP’s Jan. 16 edition of Inside Track; he noted the thefts have left the railroad’s property littered with debris.

Linked to Inside Track is Guerrero’s Dec. 20, 2021 letter to District Attorney Gascón (download below). In it, he reported: “Since December 2020, UP has experienced an over 160% increase in criminal rail theft in Los Angeles County.” He pointed out that in October 2021, thefts from UP trains jumped 356% from October 2020, and that “over the past three months of intermodal peak season,” an average of 90-plus intermodal containers per day were compromised.

pdf_up_la_district_atty_211221 Download

“This increased criminal activity over the past twelve months accounts for approximately $5 million in claims, losses and damages to UP,” according to Guerrero’s letter. “And that value does not include respective losses to our impacted customers. Nor does it capture the larger operating or commercial impacts to the UP network or supply chain system in Los Angeles County.”



Kevin Wells, Sr. Supervisor Police Division, on patrol. (Caption and Photograph Courtesy of UP.)

UP has 1,600 employees covering 275 miles of track at its nine Los Angeles County facilities. The railroad has enlisted additional special agents to join its local efforts with the Los Angeles Police Department, Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department and California Highway Patrol to prevent thefts. Together, they have made more than 100 arrests. UP is also leveraging technology, such as drone surveillance, specialized fencing and trespass-detection systems.

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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
17. LA councilman blasts train theft 'chaos,' calls them 'a threat to our economy'
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 09:13 AM
Feb 2022
Yahoo Finance

LA councilman blasts train theft 'chaos,' calls them 'a threat to our economy'

Dani Romero
Tue, February 1, 2022, 8:01 AM

Brazen freight train thefts have spiked in Los Angeles, with images of looted packages and abandoned containers capturing headlines and captivating social media — and putting pressure on California Governor Gavin Newsom to address conditions even he likened to "a third world country."

The thefts have sparked a war of words between law enforcement and Union Pacific (UNP), which owns the railroad and has called for stronger deterrence. But the growing problem has become a rallying cry for at least one local official, who is calling for stiffer penalties against criminals exploiting a weak link in the nation's supply chain crisis.

Los Angeles City Councilman Joe Buscaino told Yahoo Finance in a recent interview that he's "never seen anything like this. We're seeing more chaos with fewer consequences for those who are committing these acts."

The issue has become more of a problem during the past three months – raising new criticism around L.A. County's no cash bail policy, which has worsened the problem by making it easier for thieves to get released — if they get charged at all. ... In a letter to the LA County District Attorney last month, Adrian Guerrero, UP's director of public affairs, noted that rail thefts have skyrocketed by 160% in the county over the past year. On average, 90 containers were compromised every day, the company said.

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