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Wed Oct 5, 2016, 03:27 PM

Proofing and constructive comments welcome! ( Defining "projection")

This should probably be in GD, but I'd like some wiser eyes than mine on it, before I broadband it.

Projection! It's a thing...
When "A" politician has stepped in it,
They must, at TOP SPEED, accuse politician "B"of the same, but worse, plus sex with a baby goat. If your memory is longer then Donnie's "ahem", and you have any ability to verify facts, this is painfully easy to see through.
Sadly, it works ace on true believers! One of the best signs of a believer, is their perception that questioning what they represent as fact is a personal attack, and that the attack should be sufficient to end debate. "Cognitive Dissonance" is a popular phrase for aspects of this phenomenon.
To someone used to verifying and qualifying information, this looks childish at best,and evil at worst. And, the problem is exacerbated by education that seeks to produce loyal, obedient children, and shunt skeptical, inquisitive "troublemakers" aside. Formal logic and critical thinking are tools of several of my trades, as is the science of metrology. It is only logical for me to consider true believers as naive and poorly educated.
Belief needs verification to become fact. That's how it works. Loudly asserting the belief, in absence of fact, and in conjunction with a personal attack, generally means the belief is largely invalid.

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Reply Proofing and constructive comments welcome! ( Defining "projection") (Original post)
Mopar151 Oct 2016 OP
Mopar151 Oct 2016 #1
underahedgerow Oct 2016 #2
Mopar151 Oct 2016 #3
underahedgerow Oct 2016 #4
Mopar151 Oct 2016 #6
cwydro Oct 2016 #5

Response to Mopar151 (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:13 PM

1. Geez, gang... crickets?

Bumping in hope someone cares......
how am I failing

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Response to Mopar151 (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:43 PM

2. From 'Communications 101' ; Brevity Is the Key To Communication.

Why use 20 sentences when you can use 2? It's a wall of text and word salad.

And your words are too advanced for the average vocabulary; it appears as though you're trying to use big words to impress.

You're using too much in the first person. Are you positing facts or opinion?

Facts are not delivered in the first person.

And please accept my apologies, I know this is harsh, but you asked. I regard this objectively, and mean no personal offense.

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Response to underahedgerow (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:38 PM

3. I'm compelled to explain.

And I feel that oversimplification is no explanation at all. I use big words to explain largely in the interest of accuracy, and to avoid a condescending tone.
I used to write anual reviews for a bunch of blue-collar (like me) folk. I found that I might have to explain a word now and then, but it worked better than the dumb-down version that HR wanted. HR, in fact, recycled my job descriptions for a decade after I left the place. I did'nt have to explain to Wilfredo that the Hellfire misles he used to build were complicated and expensive.....
If you'd care to provide an example of how I can make it more succinct without losing content, please do.

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Response to Mopar151 (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 03:37 AM

4. How's this?

It's called Projection. Projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.

When "A" politician has committed an egregious act, they quickly accuse politician "B"of something worse to try to downplay their crimes.

This is best exemplified by a 'true believer;' that person that will never, ever believe anything terrible about their candidate. They'll take your accusations as a personal attack and think this is sufficient to end the 'debate'. "Cognitive Dissonance" is a common phrase for aspects of this phenomenon.

To a rational and sane person, this appears very childish and even evil. To someone accustomed to verifying and qualifying information, this looks childish at best,and evil at its worst. As a rational and critical thinker, it's natural to understand that true believers must be simply naive and poorly educated.
Belief needs verification to become fact; that's the rule. Screaming one's beliefs very loudly, along with a personal attack doesn't mean something is true.

Best I can do in 5 minutes, sorry!

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Response to underahedgerow (Reply #4)

Sun Oct 9, 2016, 04:50 PM

6. Don't be sorry for getting something right

Always willing to listen to CONSTRUCTIVE criticisim. This edit, in 5 miniutes, you're no slouch!

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Response to underahedgerow (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 04:36 AM

5. Agree.

You said it perfectly.

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