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IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:07 PM Apr 2016

Foreign Languages

Last edited Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:49 PM - Edit history (1)

Anyone here speak a language other than English? If not, what language would you like to learn?

I speak French. I haven't picked what language to learn next. Although I would like a challenge. There are so many that I want to learn.

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Foreign Languages (Original Post) IrishEyes Apr 2016 OP
German GermanDem Apr 2016 #1
What do you want to do with it, where are you, where will you go? Festivito Apr 2016 #2
German. Aristus Apr 2016 #3
One of my brothers speaks German. IrishEyes Apr 2016 #18
I speak Spanglish. NV Whino Apr 2016 #4
Spanish and Haitian Creole, learned them both working with farmworkers in NC. nt 2cannan Apr 2016 #5
Gaelic, maybe? Ron Obvious Apr 2016 #6
I learned some Gaelic. IrishEyes Apr 2016 #7
Would love to learn Russian! lastlib Apr 2016 #8
Would want to learn Ojibwe Kaleva Apr 2016 #9
A dear friend in Michigan is learning it KamaAina Apr 2016 #15
I don't speak as fluently as I once did. Behind the Aegis Apr 2016 #10
Wow! That is just amazing! I am incredibly impressed with anyone who speaks more than one language Rhiannon12866 Apr 2016 #12
"Use or lose it" is definitely applicable when it comes to languages. Behind the Aegis Apr 2016 #13
That really is a shame your grandfather didn't pass the language on Rhiannon12866 Apr 2016 #14
I tried Russian IrishEyes Apr 2016 #16
Impressive list. IrishEyes Apr 2016 #17
I had a thought... Behind the Aegis Apr 2016 #22
I've had 4 and a half years of French, still can use a bit of it. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #11
French. trof Apr 2016 #19
My 86 year old mother............ mrmpa Apr 2016 #20
I guess Fortran doesn't count. hunter Apr 2016 #21
Swedish bikebloke Apr 2016 #23
I only speak two languages... MrScorpio Apr 2016 #24
Japanese but not well. No one to practice with. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #25
Spanish and French a la izquierda Apr 2016 #26
Some High School French gelatinous cube Apr 2016 #27
Forget it, I'm still trying to learn English. (nt) So Far From Heaven Apr 2016 #28

GermanDem

(168 posts)
1. German
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:28 PM
Apr 2016

It's my native language, but I have lived in the States now for 15 years, so I am fluent in English, too. I can also order food, and converse about very basic stuff in French, and on a very, very basic level in Spanish and Italian.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
2. What do you want to do with it, where are you, where will you go?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:21 PM
Apr 2016

You have English and French.

Try:
1. Chinese
2. Arabic
3. Russian
because they are hard.

South America for the Olympics:
1. Spanish
2. Portuguese
(I suggest in that order)

I live by Dearborn, Michigan. I need:
1. Arabic in several dialects

You don't need the language in order to travel.
Hand to your mouth and or over your tummy: You're hungry.
Hands together by your tilted head: You're tired
Hands over your privates: You need a bathroom.

The rest is superfluous.

Aristus

(66,337 posts)
3. German.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:09 PM
Apr 2016

I don't have a drop of German blood, but I loved Wagner's operas so much as a kid that I took three years of German in high school. Then I was stationed in Germany for two years when I joined the Army.

It's a cool language.

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
18. One of my brothers speaks German.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:58 PM
Apr 2016

I had no idea that he spoke it. It would be great to go to the opera and understand the language.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
6. Gaelic, maybe?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:19 PM
Apr 2016

Not that I speak the language, but it occurred to me that you might find it interesting.

I do speak a few (European) languages at various levels of fluency. I'd say once you've mastered your first foreign language, to the point of being able to think in it when conversing, the others come much more easily. It's that thinking and immersion in the language that's crucial, I think. As soon as you can let go of 'translating' you're just about there. Next would be jokes and humour, which is always the hardest, because languages are so intimately bound up with their cultures.

lastlib

(23,225 posts)
8. Would love to learn Russian!
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:18 PM
Apr 2016

Had four years of French in high school/college, but have forgotten far too much of it (forty years later!) Would like to review it, but can't find my old books. They probably got shoved in the barn, like everything else I cherished.

(Can't get started on that shit.........)

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
10. I don't speak as fluently as I once did.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:46 AM
Apr 2016

I am a native American English speaker. I can still understand quite a bit of Spanish. When I left college I was fluent in Spanish, French, Italian, and Portuguese. I could read and write (script) in Greek, Russian, and Hebrew. I even understand how the sounds were made for diphthongs and such, but I only knew a few words in each. Now, I can't read anything except some Hebrew and I need the vowels to do it. I used to know smatterings in Swahili (mostly animals and colors), Thai, and a few words in Mandarin and Tamil and Hindi (which I have forgot almost all of them). I could converse in sign language; still can but just a bit.

If you would like a challenge, I suggest Hebrew, Arabic, or Persian (Farsi) because you have to learn an entirely new writing and reading system. Less challenging (but still formidable), would be Russian (their grammar is a fucking mess). If you really want to go nuts, Chinese! Korean and Japanese might be slightly easier. If you are looking for something challenging but not crazy hard, and still useful, German (which will help some with Dutch and Danish).

However, if you really want to put your abilities to the test, try a language that isn't spoken; ASL, American Sign Language. It is much more than finger spelling!

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
12. Wow! That is just amazing! I am incredibly impressed with anyone who speaks more than one language
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:44 AM
Apr 2016

In other countries, it's not so unusual, but we seem to expect everyone to speak English - which they often do. I took French, seemed most practical since we're not far from Canada and it was offered starting in junior high, but I wasn't ever that proficient. I know a little Polish, since that was my mother's first language, wish she had made a point of passing that on. And I know a little Russian, mostly polite things, since I spent time there, but most Russians (post WWII generations) speak English and a couple of more languages besides. I took an ASL course a few years back, but you tend to lose it unless you use it...

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
13. "Use or lose it" is definitely applicable when it comes to languages.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:05 AM
Apr 2016

My dad's dad spoke fluent Yiddish, but the entire family refused to teach the children because they wanted them to be assimilated. Want to hear a really ironic thing? I have three brothers, and, of course, my parents, and a husband; none of them can speak another language, Can you guess who is the only one in the family who has never left the country (other than a trip to the Bahamas in college)?

There was a PBS show here in Oklahoma that taught sign language to children. I taped all the shows and watch them to remind myself.

I really should pick up my language books again.

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
14. That really is a shame your grandfather didn't pass the language on
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:38 AM
Apr 2016

It really is much easier to learn a language when you're very young. But it's the same with my mother and grandparents. They came from Poland and so Polish was my mother's first language, she and her sister even went to school to learn to read and write it, but my brother and I and my cousins only know certain phrases, learned how to speak about food from my grandmother and insults from riding in the car with my mother, LOL.

I went to Russia (the USSR back then) with my other grandmother as part of a peace group and they tried to learn Russian before they went, but it's so different that they barely got past the alphabet. I learned polite phrases while I was there, but most people - at least the younger ones - spoke English - and probably another language or two besides.

I sat next to a Russian girl in the theater and tried to converse with her during the intermission. She obviously spoke Russian and was fluent in French and Italian, as well, but kept apologizing to me that she "didn't finish her English!"

In Russia we went to an English class and the kids were elementary school age. I wish that learning other languages was a priority here, think it was unusual that French was taught in my junior high, most schools don't offer languages until high school, not nearly as easy to pick it up by that age. And, as Americans, we just expect everyone to be able to communicate with us.

I thought ASL would be helpful to know and I learned the alphabet as a kid when reading about Helen Keller, but that was only one course. For awhile, I went to a meetup with my fellow students and teacher, as well as several who translated professionally and a few deaf members, too. But that was several years ago and I've lost most of what I knew...

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
17. Impressive list.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:56 PM
Apr 2016

I think that I want to go nuts and learn a difficult language. I started learning Japanese with a friend a few years ago. We were doing well but she dropped out. I basically stopped a little while after that.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
11. I've had 4 and a half years of French, still can use a bit of it.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:03 AM
Apr 2016

but not nearly fluent. Can read more than I can hear.

Would love to learn Norwegian, as I'm 5/8ths. I know a little from genealogy work, but only reading the genealogy lingo, couldn't pronounce it properly to save my life.

trof

(54,256 posts)
19. French.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:19 PM
Apr 2016

Took it in high school and college.
The grammar is baffling but my accent is pretty good.
Not nearly as fluent as I was when I spent time in Paris.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
20. My 86 year old mother............
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:19 PM
Apr 2016

had a father born in Poland. Her mother & father spoke Polish quite a lot. Mom went to a Catholic grade school, the nuns taught Polish, but mom refused to learn it. Her sisters & brothers spoke it. Mom & I watched the movie Ida (Polish film that won an Oscar for best foreign film in 2015). It was subtitled, but mom recognized a lot of the words and she understands the pronunciation of Polish words.

I would like to learn Polish and Gaelic. I took Spanish for 4 years in High School, but I'll be damned if I can remember anything 40 years later.

If you know a language well, and are inclined, the NSA will hire you in a New York City minute.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
21. I guess Fortran doesn't count.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:13 PM
Apr 2016

When I learned it we still used punched cards.



I used to have some German, I was hanging out with people who spoke it, but that's fading.

I live in a community where many speak Spanish, my wife is bilingual, and our kids are somewhat bilingual, but I'm not. In the "real world" I don't speak much at all because I'm a master of saying inappropriate things and have learned by painful experience to keep my mouth shut most of the time.

I've always been fascinated with constructed languages such as interlingua, but I figure I can always hammer English into whatever shape I want and demand others follow along if they care to know what I'm thinking.

We have a family friend who is a language wizard, making a very good living doing simultaneous translation. He speaks a half dozen languages fluently, and is always studying more languages for just fun. He grew up in a tri-lingual household and community, so maybe he had a head start.

Language isn't always a good thing. In many ways our minds are slaves to a language. Some people are very skilled at manufacturing lies and propaganda taking advantage of the structures of a particular language. That's why it's important to be multi-lingual, or to have other languages like mathematics or music or dance to think in.

bikebloke

(5,260 posts)
23. Swedish
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:20 AM
Apr 2016

That gives me a foot in with Norwegian and Danish.
German. French. Dutch. A bit of Spanish. Fragments of Hebrew from my kibbutz commie era from 30 years ago.

gelatinous cube

(50 posts)
27. Some High School French
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:26 PM
Apr 2016

I would love to learn more. Despite the annoying masculine/feminine nouns, it was incredibly satisfying to actually understand an entire conversation in a foreign language.

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