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Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
Sun Apr 27, 2014, 01:28 AM Apr 2014

I saw the origin of my illness sitting across the table from me like I've never seen it before.

I have bipolar disorder, the particularly bad one, Bipolar 1. The last I heard, it was thought in the medical community that the illness had a hereditary, genetic component to it as well as a psychological component usually related to your upbringing, but which can occur later in life.

I had the genetic and psychological equivalent to the perfect storm. The crazy gene runs on my dad's side and I had a lot of psychological trauma growing up. The onset of a severe illness occurred in me when I was 20, which is about the age where most men will get sick if they are going to become severely mentally ill.

I knew my dad had had problems in his life, but I thought it was mostly depression that he had battled. Lately, there was a situation in my family that was causing him some serious depression. I needed someone to help me with a condo rental I own near him, and thought it would be a good idea to ask him for help to get him out of the house and get him doing something else to get his mind off of things. We're just talking letting contractors in and out and inspecting the place and making sure they are doing a good job. And it worked. His depression lifted, and soon he was a changed man- bright and happy and full of life.

Well, it worked a little too well. After 4 months of deep depression he is now manic. I had dinner with him last night and he was just wired. Of course he doesn't think anything is wrong and he says he's as happy as he's ever been, but, having suffered from mania, I know it when I see it. It's the first time I've ever seen it in him so clearly, but I haven't spent a whole lot of time with him in my life considering he's my father. My folks split when I was 8. I'm betting he's been going through cycles like this for a long time and I just haven't seen him on the upswing that much, and never like this.

I haven't talked to him about mental illness recently. We have discussed it in the past when I was diagnosed, and we were both in agreement that if there is a genetic component to mental illness it seems to run in his side of the family and he may have had a few issues. I've never discussed the idea that he may have bipolar disorder as well with him.

I'm not sure how to proceed beyond staying in close contact with him and monitoring his mood. I know from experience that trying to tell him he's sick right now will not work. He just feels so damn good. How could he be sick? The perils of bipolar disorder...

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I saw the origin of my illness sitting across the table from me like I've never seen it before. (Original Post) Tobin S. Apr 2014 OP
Oh boy, my dear Tobin... CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2014 #1
It's good to see you, too, Peggy. Tobin S. Apr 2014 #2
I'm glad I stopped in too! CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2014 #3
Thanks, Peggy. I'm glad you are doing well Tobin S. Apr 2014 #4
Wow. What a night. I can't imagine how weird that must have been riderinthestorm Apr 2014 #5
His highs are Too High and his lows are Too Low ... Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #6
That's a tough one. progressoid Apr 2014 #7

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,619 posts)
1. Oh boy, my dear Tobin...
Sun Apr 27, 2014, 01:35 AM
Apr 2014

It's great to see you tonight!

But I truly don't have any advice to give.

And I really wish I did!

Good luck.

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
2. It's good to see you, too, Peggy.
Sun Apr 27, 2014, 01:37 AM
Apr 2014

I'm glad you stopped in my little thread here.

I hope all is well in your world this evening. How are you doing?

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,619 posts)
3. I'm glad I stopped in too!
Sun Apr 27, 2014, 01:40 AM
Apr 2014

Things are pretty good here.

I'm in physical therapy for my left shoulder replacement, and they are turning me into a pretzel! I'm working hard to get my range of motion and my strength back, and it's coming, but glacially.

I'm also taking a poetry workshop, and it has me working on improving my poetry. I'm having a ball, exploring new techniques and listening to other people's work.

I hope you can sell your condo!

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
4. Thanks, Peggy. I'm glad you are doing well
Sun Apr 27, 2014, 01:48 AM
Apr 2014

My condo will be ready for the market early next week. It's going to be sharp- new paint and carpet throughout, absolutely nothing wrong with it. When we went over to clean the place after the last tenant had moved out, my wife expressed an interest in moving into it, but I know that will never happen. Our house is twice the size of that condo plus we have a basement. We wouldn't get half of our stuff in there and she doesn't like to part with her stuff. We also have a dog and two cats.

I'm a city boy transplanted to a small town. The condo is in the city and I'd move back there in a heartbeat if my wife was dead set on it. But she has strong ties here in this little town and I doubt she would be as happy if she had to move away from it.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
5. Wow. What a night. I can't imagine how weird that must have been
Sun Apr 27, 2014, 11:13 AM
Apr 2014

Sitting there, watching, thinking....

(rider shakes head)

Must have been pretty strange saying good bye knowing the next time you see him will most likely be when he's on the down side. Hope you can reach him then and he'll accept some help.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
6. His highs are Too High and his lows are Too Low ...
Sun Apr 27, 2014, 11:50 AM
Apr 2014

Best wishes to you and your Father that he gets the help he needs.

Good to see you, Tobin no matter the circumstances.

progressoid

(49,990 posts)
7. That's a tough one.
Sun Apr 27, 2014, 01:18 PM
Apr 2014

I'm seeing some issues with a family member that I recognize from my own experience (depression, not bipolar). My first attempt to broach the subject wasn't very successful.

Just found this book at our local library:

You Need Help!: A Step-by-Step Plan to Convince a Loved One to Get Counseling
http://www.amazon.com/You-Need-Help-Step-Step/dp/1616491485

I'm only a couple chapters into into it so I can't say if it will work or not for me.

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