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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsIt is your fault, so I need your help. If I do a ham for thanksgiving, can I just buy an already
cut one?
In a thread on what are you eating for thanksgiving someone said turkey but he would rather have ham.
I hate ham but I thought, I'm feeding 25...maybe they would like ham to go with the turkey.
I used to get a turducken to go with the regular turkey (one turkey is not enough for this crowd as I like left overs) but the turduckens were not so good the last 2 years so we swore them off.
Can I just buy a honey baked (and cut) ham and call it a day or are they terrible?
Bake
(21,977 posts)Your guests will enjoy it immensely!! I know I would! What time is dinner???
Bake
4_TN_TITANS
(2,977 posts)but I don't know your situation. Those honey baked hams are f'n expensive, but really f'n good. My family has always done turkey AND ham. The ham usually disappears quick while there's plenty of leftover turkey.
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)It's family, and this year especially I don't care what it costs.
Thanks for your advice.
and there is never "plenty" of leftover turkey. I might get a ham and a turkey breast in addition to the turkey...I have my big family on Thursday and "orphan" friends (people who don't cook their own Thanksgiving and hence have no leftovers of their own) for left overs the next night. Yes, my left overs are just that good! (Mostly the dressing, add sausage and toasted pecans, don't serve any hors d'oeuvre so people are really hungry at dinner time, and everyone will think you are a fabulous chef! It was my mom's trick. She was famous for being a great, gourmet cook.)
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Hoisin/spice glaze
Toast 2 teaspoons of five spice powder in a small saucepan over medium heat with 1 tablespoon peanut oil about 1 minute.
Add 1 cup hoisin sauce, 3 tablesspoons each Honey and rice vinegar (I used apple cider vinegar), 1 tasblespoon soy sauce and 1 cup water. Boil until reduced, about 5 minutes or so.
Apple Maple Glaze
Boil 2 cups apple cider over med-high heat until reduced to 1/2 cup, 8-10 minutes. Reduce heat to low. Add 1/2 cup each apple jelly and maple syrup, 1/4 cup whole grain mustard, 1/2 teaspoon allspice and 1/4 teaspoon nutmeg. Cook on low a little more to marry flavors.
Graybeard
(6,996 posts)Just don't let it get dry when you heat it up.
(Follow the directions.) Your meal sounds like it
is going to be fabulous. Enjoy!
Kali
(55,019 posts)on the other hand if you go for a store brand, I would not get the spiral cuts they tend to be cut sloppy (many of the slices too thick) and get dry really easy when you heat them up, get a whole ham and cook it the day before if you don't have time or room to do it when you do the turkey. leftover ham is just as good as leftover turkey plus you can use it for breakfast too, and that bone is so good in pea soup or a pot of beans
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Though it is good for a change of pace, for those who want it.
Me, I'd rather do Roast Beef.
Get a slab of meat, inject it with Olive Oil and other stuff...
Wrap it in Cheese Cloth...
It is awesome!
bluedigger
(17,087 posts)How could you even think of eating your own?
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Pisses me off every year.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)exact same recipe as the stuffing. Cook it same as the stuffing...before you table dinner, mix the good stuff from the bird with the stuff you cooked outside the bird.
Set aside whatever you want for leftovers, put it in the fridge in a opaque container labeled as something that nobody else in your family will eat. (I use containers that bulk-tofu comes in)
Table the rest...nobody will be the wiser.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)But we cook at grandmas. She only has a single oven.
More stuffing = more the hogs eat
fuckers
elleng
(131,107 posts)minus MUCH aggravation. Invited daughter and her beau to select among options, among them I bring one of these hams to THEIR home, or they join me at mine.
PERFECTLY good choice, and very good to eat.
MiddleFingerMom
(25,163 posts).
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I LOVE turkey leftovers!!! Especially turkey, cranberry sauce and stuffing on
white bread with mayo and then turkey soup, turkey soup, turkey soup!!!
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One Christmas, I went to MiddleFingerMomSis' family's home.
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Connecticut. How COOL!!! Though i'm not religious, I was blown away and
joined in singing Christmas carols at about 8 PM Christmas Eve with what
seemed like her whole village in the cold see-your-breath COLD in the deep
snow in the village square (which was a small, low hill) with a pretty good
and subtle oom-pah-pah band accompanying us from the gazebo.
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MiddleFingerMomSis, who (seriously) couldn't boil hotdogs when she got
married in the 70's, had become (I credit open air markets and LOTS of
cooking classes when they were in San Francisco) the absolute FINEST
gourmet cook that I've ever known. For the Christmas dinner entree, she
served stuffed deviled lobster -- luscious and ambrosial -- though, when
she called us and learned this, MiddleFingerMomMom (half-) jokingly told
us that we were all going to Hell for not having turkey or ham (or, in a
pinch... a crown roast of beef).
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Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Some are more difficult to cook than others.
But there are some pre-cooked hams you can get with glaze packages sold with them. You cannot scew them up and they are really tasty.
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)it almost looked like a natural food product. I suppose I was expecting it to look more processed. I actually think at one time it was part of a pig!
I also got my gift tags in the mail from Etsy. Sooooo perfect. They say: "It's coal. I have my reasons." Look better than in the picture.
So, all in all, I'm making progress!
elleng
(131,107 posts)You're serving 25? and I'm serving about 3, so what strikes you??? (Not literally, but I haven't done too much thinking about this due to uncertain plans, so would like to pick your brain, Ham!!!)
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)and the only things on the veggie tray are stuffed celery, gerkins and olives.
I've tried other sides over the years and they go uneaten. One year I made the most amazing yam dish with coconut milk and lots of exotic spices. Everyone loved it, but no one ate more than a few bites. Really, its the sausage in the dressing, no one wants anything else and I make a ton of it. Plus the gravy over mashed potatoes are a big hit. And stuff celery just adds a bit of crunch.
This year, however, I got a brussel sprouts craving AND they have them already made up at costco.
So, I got a couple packages of those PLUS I got some fresh brussel sprouts that I'm going to brown in a pan (or in the oven) with some garlic and olive oil or butter.
I'll let you know which were better but if you have a costco close by, they also had the traditional beans with onion thingies on top so buy a package and you're done!
If you have time, brine a turkey breast or a small turkey. 24 to 36 hours before you want to bake it. Do it in a plastic bag in the fridge lots of recipes online with instructions. I do a whole bird but I don't stuff it so stuffing on the side, pepperidge farms packages of seasoned stuffing, crushed or cubed, onions, celery, sausage toasted pecans.
Costco has a decent gravy but really, if you are cooking a turkey, put some of the water from the mashed potatoes in the roasting pan after you take turkey out, heat it up, take a small jar with flour and cornstarch or either, which every you have, add a half cup or so of the hot liquid, shake the jar to dissolve the flour, add to gravy mixture a bit at a time as you stir to thicken. Some chicken stock is also nice. Not really hard at all. Mom adds Kitchen Bouquet to make it darker.
Thanksgiving has been my holiday for 30 plus years. I spoke for it because that way I can outlaw watching sports and we can just talk since I'm asportual. It is a bit of work but fun. I don't really cook that often. My mom used to say "being a good cook is knowing where to shop" which you'll learn if you do this every year. I'm lazy, I get most of it from costco which doesn't work that well for three...unless you really love pumpkin pie
elleng
(131,107 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:52 PM - Edit history (1)
No costco here (I should say, I don't do costco; don't do much cooking!)
p.s., family no longer together, used to have the traditional like you're describing, so I'm kind of trying to do SOMETHING, may end up just with a friend, and as turkey has never been one of my favorites, am looking for something 'diferent.' Came upon the spiral/ham thought recently, so think I'll go with it, and hope to come up with a couple decent/interesting sides. WILL think of you and yours!
elleng
(131,107 posts)Sounds interesting to me.
http://www.subrosa.arbre.us/curriedyams.html
Can't figure out how many 'pans' to use, to cook it. 1. to steam cut up yams (after colander 2. to cook cumin, and then onion + other stuff, without oil?, and can't figure out: add oil to same pan ???, add yams to that pan? and then drain yams from THAT pan, which contains cumin + onion+, or a 3d pan, to which add coconut milk and return yams + spices?
Confused, but interested in this 'cause friend with whom I may have this meal is from Pakistan, and would probably like the yam dish (I think!), and I like the idea of this with the honey baked ham.
THANKS!
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)(I'm short on RAM right now, the "spices" turned out to be Thai red curry paste. I remember using less curry paste than called for and maybe added a thing or two. Oh, and it was sweet potatoes, not yams.)
elleng
(131,107 posts)stealing!
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I love ham.
But I would also do a turkey.
Thanksgiving is really the only day of the year that I crave turkey, so I would be quite disappointed if I came to your house and there wasn't any turkey to eat!
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)I usually just get the "whatever" turkey they have at Costco. Was I time I got fresh, free range blah blah but you had to order it in advance and if you brine the turkey, its plenty moist so not worth the extra work. Dinner for 25 on Thanksgiving plus leftovers dinner the next night is a lot of work if you work full time as I do so I try to keep it simple.
This year they had an organic/expensive/all natural etc turkey so I got a small one of those too. Honestly, 30-40 people eat a lot of turkey especially since its once a year.
You're all welcome to come!
KatyaR
(3,445 posts)Get an bone-in ham (and then get your mind out of the gutter).
Put in a roasting pan with just a bit of water in the bottom to prevent burning. Cover with foil, no lid. Cut a couple of holes to vent.
Slow bake in the oven at 250 degrees overnight. It will be the most tender, succulent ham you've ever had.
No glaze, no fruit, no nasty stuff. Seriously, you'll never want a store-bought ham again.
My mom always cooked them this way. I've had 80-year-old women tell me it was the best ham they'd ever eaten.
Try it, you'll like it....
(This message brought to you by the Council Against Fruit, Glazes, and Spices on Pork. Buy American!)
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)I just remembered the real reason I agreed to do Thanksgiving. My mother in law cooked turkey until it was so dry it would literally cut the top of your mouth when you ate it. (She also insisted corn on the cob and pasta be cooked for 45 minutes.)
So, I said "I'll do Thanksgiving next year".
I'd be hard to convince cooking something overnight is the right way to go.