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Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:28 PM Nov 2012

It is your fault, so I need your help. If I do a ham for thanksgiving, can I just buy an already

cut one?

In a thread on what are you eating for thanksgiving someone said turkey but he would rather have ham.

I hate ham but I thought, I'm feeding 25...maybe they would like ham to go with the turkey.

I used to get a turducken to go with the regular turkey (one turkey is not enough for this crowd as I like left overs) but the turduckens were not so good the last 2 years so we swore them off.

Can I just buy a honey baked (and cut) ham and call it a day or are they terrible?

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It is your fault, so I need your help. If I do a ham for thanksgiving, can I just buy an already (Original Post) Hamlette Nov 2012 OP
No, they're excellent. You can do it and feel good about it. Bake Nov 2012 #1
It would be best to offer either or both, 4_TN_TITANS Nov 2012 #2
they are cheaper than turducken which is what I've been buying all these years! Hamlette Nov 2012 #5
A couple of ham glaze recipes -- HappyMe Nov 2012 #9
Not terrible at all. Graybeard Nov 2012 #3
those honeybaked hams are delicious - go for it if you can afford it Kali Nov 2012 #4
I hate ham too... Xyzse Nov 2012 #6
Ewww! bluedigger Nov 2012 #7
The hogs in my family never leave me enough stuffing for leftovers AngryAmish Nov 2012 #8
Make a dressing in a pyrex glass bowl... Chan790 Nov 2012 #10
Tried to do it in the past AngryAmish Nov 2012 #11
Honey Baked and other spiral cut hams are quite good, elleng Nov 2012 #12
Ham? For me... meh. But people DO love it, so having BOTH would be great!!! MiddleFingerMom Nov 2012 #13
I usually do ham Glassunion Nov 2012 #14
Just bought a honeybaked ham, thanks to all of you. Hamlette Nov 2012 #15
OK, so what sides do you think you'll serve??? elleng Nov 2012 #17
our traditional dinner has just dressing, potatoes and a veggie tray Hamlette Nov 2012 #18
Thanks. I like the sound of the yam dish! elleng Nov 2012 #20
Does this sound like your yam dish? elleng Nov 2012 #21
sounds better! Here's the one I used: Hamlette Nov 2012 #23
Thanks, Ham. elleng Nov 2012 #24
asportual Kali Nov 2012 #22
Ham is fine, imo. bigwillq Nov 2012 #16
One, honeybaked ham, two turkeys Hamlette Nov 2012 #19
The very best ham EVER is so very simple. KatyaR Nov 2012 #25
My mother in law cooked her turkey that way it was awful! Hamlette Nov 2012 #26

Bake

(21,977 posts)
1. No, they're excellent. You can do it and feel good about it.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:31 PM
Nov 2012

Your guests will enjoy it immensely!! I know I would! What time is dinner???



Bake

4_TN_TITANS

(2,977 posts)
2. It would be best to offer either or both,
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:45 PM
Nov 2012

but I don't know your situation. Those honey baked hams are f'n expensive, but really f'n good. My family has always done turkey AND ham. The ham usually disappears quick while there's plenty of leftover turkey.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
5. they are cheaper than turducken which is what I've been buying all these years!
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:16 PM
Nov 2012

It's family, and this year especially I don't care what it costs.

Thanks for your advice.

and there is never "plenty" of leftover turkey. I might get a ham and a turkey breast in addition to the turkey...I have my big family on Thursday and "orphan" friends (people who don't cook their own Thanksgiving and hence have no leftovers of their own) for left overs the next night. Yes, my left overs are just that good! (Mostly the dressing, add sausage and toasted pecans, don't serve any hors d'oeuvre so people are really hungry at dinner time, and everyone will think you are a fabulous chef! It was my mom's trick. She was famous for being a great, gourmet cook.)

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
9. A couple of ham glaze recipes --
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:58 PM
Nov 2012

Hoisin/spice glaze

Toast 2 teaspoons of five spice powder in a small saucepan over medium heat with 1 tablespoon peanut oil about 1 minute.
Add 1 cup hoisin sauce, 3 tablesspoons each Honey and rice vinegar (I used apple cider vinegar), 1 tasblespoon soy sauce and 1 cup water. Boil until reduced, about 5 minutes or so.



Apple Maple Glaze

Boil 2 cups apple cider over med-high heat until reduced to 1/2 cup, 8-10 minutes. Reduce heat to low. Add 1/2 cup each apple jelly and maple syrup, 1/4 cup whole grain mustard, 1/2 teaspoon allspice and 1/4 teaspoon nutmeg. Cook on low a little more to marry flavors.

Graybeard

(6,996 posts)
3. Not terrible at all.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:46 PM
Nov 2012

Just don't let it get dry when you heat it up.

(Follow the directions.) Your meal sounds like it

is going to be fabulous. Enjoy!

Kali

(55,019 posts)
4. those honeybaked hams are delicious - go for it if you can afford it
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:05 PM
Nov 2012

on the other hand if you go for a store brand, I would not get the spiral cuts they tend to be cut sloppy (many of the slices too thick) and get dry really easy when you heat them up, get a whole ham and cook it the day before if you don't have time or room to do it when you do the turkey. leftover ham is just as good as leftover turkey plus you can use it for breakfast too, and that bone is so good in pea soup or a pot of beans

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
6. I hate ham too...
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:49 PM
Nov 2012

Though it is good for a change of pace, for those who want it.

Me, I'd rather do Roast Beef.
Get a slab of meat, inject it with Olive Oil and other stuff...
Wrap it in Cheese Cloth...

It is awesome!

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
10. Make a dressing in a pyrex glass bowl...
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:12 PM
Nov 2012

exact same recipe as the stuffing. Cook it same as the stuffing...before you table dinner, mix the good stuff from the bird with the stuff you cooked outside the bird.

Set aside whatever you want for leftovers, put it in the fridge in a opaque container labeled as something that nobody else in your family will eat. (I use containers that bulk-tofu comes in)

Table the rest...nobody will be the wiser.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
11. Tried to do it in the past
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:46 PM
Nov 2012

But we cook at grandmas. She only has a single oven.

More stuffing = more the hogs eat

fuckers

elleng

(131,107 posts)
12. Honey Baked and other spiral cut hams are quite good,
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 06:23 PM
Nov 2012

minus MUCH aggravation. Invited daughter and her beau to select among options, among them I bring one of these hams to THEIR home, or they join me at mine.

PERFECTLY good choice, and very good to eat.

MiddleFingerMom

(25,163 posts)
13. Ham? For me... meh. But people DO love it, so having BOTH would be great!!!
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 06:48 PM
Nov 2012

.
.
.
I LOVE turkey leftovers!!! Especially turkey, cranberry sauce and stuffing on
white bread with mayo and then turkey soup, turkey soup, turkey soup!!!
.
One Christmas, I went to MiddleFingerMomSis' family's home.
.
Connecticut. How COOL!!! Though i'm not religious, I was blown away and
joined in singing Christmas carols at about 8 PM Christmas Eve with what
seemed like her whole village in the cold see-your-breath COLD in the deep
snow in the village square (which was a small, low hill) with a pretty good
and subtle oom-pah-pah band accompanying us from the gazebo.
.
MiddleFingerMomSis, who (seriously) couldn't boil hotdogs when she got
married in the 70's, had become (I credit open air markets and LOTS of
cooking classes when they were in San Francisco) the absolute FINEST
gourmet cook that I've ever known. For the Christmas dinner entree, she
served stuffed deviled lobster -- luscious and ambrosial -- though, when
she called us and learned this, MiddleFingerMomMom (half-) jokingly told
us that we were all going to Hell for not having turkey or ham (or, in a
pinch... a crown roast of beef).
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.
.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
14. I usually do ham
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 06:52 PM
Nov 2012

Some are more difficult to cook than others.

But there are some pre-cooked hams you can get with glaze packages sold with them. You cannot scew them up and they are really tasty.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
15. Just bought a honeybaked ham, thanks to all of you.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 07:25 PM
Nov 2012

it almost looked like a natural food product. I suppose I was expecting it to look more processed. I actually think at one time it was part of a pig!

I also got my gift tags in the mail from Etsy. Sooooo perfect. They say: "It's coal. I have my reasons." Look better than in the picture.

So, all in all, I'm making progress!

elleng

(131,107 posts)
17. OK, so what sides do you think you'll serve???
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:02 PM
Nov 2012

You're serving 25? and I'm serving about 3, so what strikes you??? (Not literally, but I haven't done too much thinking about this due to uncertain plans, so would like to pick your brain, Ham!!!)

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
18. our traditional dinner has just dressing, potatoes and a veggie tray
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:57 PM
Nov 2012

and the only things on the veggie tray are stuffed celery, gerkins and olives.

I've tried other sides over the years and they go uneaten. One year I made the most amazing yam dish with coconut milk and lots of exotic spices. Everyone loved it, but no one ate more than a few bites. Really, its the sausage in the dressing, no one wants anything else and I make a ton of it. Plus the gravy over mashed potatoes are a big hit. And stuff celery just adds a bit of crunch.

This year, however, I got a brussel sprouts craving AND they have them already made up at costco.

So, I got a couple packages of those PLUS I got some fresh brussel sprouts that I'm going to brown in a pan (or in the oven) with some garlic and olive oil or butter.

I'll let you know which were better but if you have a costco close by, they also had the traditional beans with onion thingies on top so buy a package and you're done!

If you have time, brine a turkey breast or a small turkey. 24 to 36 hours before you want to bake it. Do it in a plastic bag in the fridge lots of recipes online with instructions. I do a whole bird but I don't stuff it so stuffing on the side, pepperidge farms packages of seasoned stuffing, crushed or cubed, onions, celery, sausage toasted pecans.

Costco has a decent gravy but really, if you are cooking a turkey, put some of the water from the mashed potatoes in the roasting pan after you take turkey out, heat it up, take a small jar with flour and cornstarch or either, which every you have, add a half cup or so of the hot liquid, shake the jar to dissolve the flour, add to gravy mixture a bit at a time as you stir to thicken. Some chicken stock is also nice. Not really hard at all. Mom adds Kitchen Bouquet to make it darker.

Thanksgiving has been my holiday for 30 plus years. I spoke for it because that way I can outlaw watching sports and we can just talk since I'm asportual. It is a bit of work but fun. I don't really cook that often. My mom used to say "being a good cook is knowing where to shop" which you'll learn if you do this every year. I'm lazy, I get most of it from costco which doesn't work that well for three...unless you really love pumpkin pie

elleng

(131,107 posts)
20. Thanks. I like the sound of the yam dish!
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:07 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:52 PM - Edit history (1)

No costco here (I should say, I don't do costco; don't do much cooking!)

p.s., family no longer together, used to have the traditional like you're describing, so I'm kind of trying to do SOMETHING, may end up just with a friend, and as turkey has never been one of my favorites, am looking for something 'diferent.' Came upon the spiral/ham thought recently, so think I'll go with it, and hope to come up with a couple decent/interesting sides. WILL think of you and yours!

elleng

(131,107 posts)
21. Does this sound like your yam dish?
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:29 AM
Nov 2012

Sounds interesting to me.

http://www.subrosa.arbre.us/curriedyams.html

Can't figure out how many 'pans' to use, to cook it. 1. to steam cut up yams (after colander 2. to cook cumin, and then onion + other stuff, without oil?, and can't figure out: add oil to same pan ???, add yams to that pan? and then drain yams from THAT pan, which contains cumin + onion+, or a 3d pan, to which add coconut milk and return yams + spices?

Confused, but interested in this 'cause friend with whom I may have this meal is from Pakistan, and would probably like the yam dish (I think!), and I like the idea of this with the honey baked ham.

THANKS!

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
23. sounds better! Here's the one I used:
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:35 AM
Nov 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/dining/111srex.html?ref=dining

(I'm short on RAM right now, the "spices" turned out to be Thai red curry paste. I remember using less curry paste than called for and maybe added a thing or two. Oh, and it was sweet potatoes, not yams.)

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
16. Ham is fine, imo.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 07:28 PM
Nov 2012

I love ham.
But I would also do a turkey.
Thanksgiving is really the only day of the year that I crave turkey, so I would be quite disappointed if I came to your house and there wasn't any turkey to eat!

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
19. One, honeybaked ham, two turkeys
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:00 PM
Nov 2012

I usually just get the "whatever" turkey they have at Costco. Was I time I got fresh, free range blah blah but you had to order it in advance and if you brine the turkey, its plenty moist so not worth the extra work. Dinner for 25 on Thanksgiving plus leftovers dinner the next night is a lot of work if you work full time as I do so I try to keep it simple.

This year they had an organic/expensive/all natural etc turkey so I got a small one of those too. Honestly, 30-40 people eat a lot of turkey especially since its once a year.

You're all welcome to come!

KatyaR

(3,445 posts)
25. The very best ham EVER is so very simple.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:59 PM
Nov 2012

Get an bone-in ham (and then get your mind out of the gutter).

Put in a roasting pan with just a bit of water in the bottom to prevent burning. Cover with foil, no lid. Cut a couple of holes to vent.

Slow bake in the oven at 250 degrees overnight. It will be the most tender, succulent ham you've ever had.

No glaze, no fruit, no nasty stuff. Seriously, you'll never want a store-bought ham again.

My mom always cooked them this way. I've had 80-year-old women tell me it was the best ham they'd ever eaten.

Try it, you'll like it....

(This message brought to you by the Council Against Fruit, Glazes, and Spices on Pork. Buy American!)

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
26. My mother in law cooked her turkey that way it was awful!
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:23 PM
Nov 2012

I just remembered the real reason I agreed to do Thanksgiving. My mother in law cooked turkey until it was so dry it would literally cut the top of your mouth when you ate it. (She also insisted corn on the cob and pasta be cooked for 45 minutes.)

So, I said "I'll do Thanksgiving next year".

I'd be hard to convince cooking something overnight is the right way to go.

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