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Peregrine Took

(7,416 posts)
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 12:46 PM Apr 12

Anyone know what Thom Hartmann said about apple cider vinegar recently?

A caller just said whatever was wrong with him was greatly helped by Thom's recommendation. I googled and couldn't find the link.
Thanks very much. I've always wondered what it was good for....

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Anyone know what Thom Hartmann said about apple cider vinegar recently? (Original Post) Peregrine Took Apr 12 OP
Maybe this: Donkees Apr 12 #1
A lot of apple cider vinegar-based health claims aren't backed up by science. Elessar Zappa Apr 12 #2
The NIH did some studies and ACV consumption significantly decreased serum total cholesterol mitch96 Apr 12 #3
V8negar Is A Good Way... ProfessorGAC Apr 12 #4
My Complaint About That Study... ProfessorGAC Apr 12 #5
I mix spurt coupla tablespoons into vegetable juice (generic V8) UTUSN Apr 12 #6

Donkees

(31,432 posts)
1. Maybe this:
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 01:04 PM
Apr 12
THOM HARTMANN
MAR 24, 2024

Numerous people have asked me, over the years, exactly what supplements I take, in addition to a mostly vegan diet and regular walking as exercise. So, here’s my list...

https://wisdomschool.com/p/my-supplement-list

Elessar Zappa

(14,016 posts)
2. A lot of apple cider vinegar-based health claims aren't backed up by science.
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 01:08 PM
Apr 12

Unless I missed some new research, which is highly possible.

mitch96

(13,917 posts)
3. The NIH did some studies and ACV consumption significantly decreased serum total cholesterol
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 02:07 PM
Apr 12
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8243436/

I think little bit helps along with diet and exercise...
The good thing is it's not like a drug that can hurt you, after all it's just vinegar.. Stick it on a salad..
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ProfessorGAC

(65,090 posts)
4. V8negar Is A Good Way...
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 04:45 PM
Apr 12

...too balance sweet & heat in nearly any dish. I add both lemon & white wine vinegar to my gumbo.
I have to admit I've not used ACV. White wine, red wine, & rice wine vinegar. But, I don't see why ACV wouldn't do the same, so one could get some ACV into their diet.

ProfessorGAC

(65,090 posts)
5. My Complaint About That Study...
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 05:02 PM
Apr 12

...is that it tested ACV with other intervention (Rx I presume) to just the intervention.
I didn't see anything about other vinegars being compared.
With the exception of a few low MW aldehydes, all vinegars are compositionally the same.
I found a couple of junk science citations about ACV being high in prebiotic because "apples" or something.
Thing is, the antimicrobial properties of food concentrations of acetic acid (what the real worl calls VINEGAR) have been known for many, many decades. People pickled food with vinegar for centuries without even knowing why it worked.
I don't see why all vinegars wouldn't be equal. Unless, of course some extra free simple sugars remain in ACV, giving it a more pleasant taste to many people.
In that article, it's pretty clear that the primary effect on serum cholesterol is the acetic acid, which is by far, the dominant organic component in vinegar. So, I need more than the search I did to convince me that ACV is superior to other vinegars.
BTW: Here's an NIH study confirming the efficacy of vinegar as a disinfectant, though it wouldn't meet the definition by EPA standards. (Not 99.9% minimum kill & not fast enough.) But, still quite effective.

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