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bucolic_frolic

(44,110 posts)
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 05:13 PM Feb 2024

How are you using AI?

I've tried it for several things. It can construct a plan of action, say for learning software or painting your house. It can also spit out useful doggerel, if you have the patience to edit and rewrite. I find it tends to be melodramatic and verbose.

How's it going for you? Or don't you bother with it anymore.

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How are you using AI? (Original Post) bucolic_frolic Feb 2024 OP
Not using it. AI is the devil. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #1
Best Answer IA8IT Feb 2024 #6
I'm not, I don't even know how. Ocelot II Feb 2024 #2
NOPE FalloutShelter Feb 2024 #3
I agree vishnura Feb 2024 #5
A photographer friend of mine FalloutShelter Feb 2024 #8
I saw messages on Twitter recently where AI artists were taunting a real artist who sells highplainsdem Feb 2024 #16
I believe it. FalloutShelter Feb 2024 #17
I agree that soul will be missing. So will real talent, when generative AI is used. I don't know if you saw highplainsdem Feb 2024 #26
Thanks Highplains FalloutShelter Feb 2024 #27
No XanaDUer2 Feb 2024 #4
IMHO, there is no such thing as 'true' AI. The 'AI' that I seem to see is basically a long-winded series of SWBTATTReg Feb 2024 #7
It's not an opinion, you are correct Polybius Feb 2024 #12
I'm guessing that by true AI you mean AGI. And as you said, we're not there yet, and there's a lot highplainsdem Feb 2024 #15
This is a little embarrassing, but I found it funny TlalocW Feb 2024 #9
I've been using AI for years. Niagara Feb 2024 #10
The OP is talking about generative AI, the type currently being hyped. Very little of what you highplainsdem Feb 2024 #13
In general, AI refers to systems that are self-learning. You are conflating the terms "algorithmic" with "AI." Earth-shine Feb 2024 #19
My new dryer in fact contains AI. Niagara Feb 2024 #24
You are "confused" by marketing hype. Your dryer is not actually not self-learning on how to dry clothes. Earth-shine Feb 2024 #25
Avoiding it as much as possible, snot Feb 2024 #11
Which of the generative AI chatbots have you been using? highplainsdem Feb 2024 #14
I recently put together a website where I needed certain images so I generated them with AI. Earth-shine Feb 2024 #18
There's enough risk of copyright issues with AI-generated images that some of the companies highplainsdem Feb 2024 #20
I did just fine with it. No one will sue me or even want to. Earth-shine Feb 2024 #21
Artists still hate AI art generators. highplainsdem Feb 2024 #22
Of course they do. It's competition. If I wasn't already retired as a Tech Writer, I'd be quite concerned about Earth-shine Feb 2024 #23
It's so weird that it cannot draw hands correctly bc animators had the same problem with Yavin4 Feb 2024 #32
AI makes pictures by comparing to previous pictures. It has trouble seeing two fingers close together as Earth-shine Feb 2024 #33
Don't use it, but my one task would be to ask AI maxrandb Feb 2024 #28
I asked it to draw a diagram of a subduction zone Oilfieldtrash Feb 2024 #29
And when AI grows up... Yavin4 Feb 2024 #31
I'm studying it rigorously. Yavin4 Feb 2024 #30

vishnura

(250 posts)
5. I agree
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 05:30 PM
Feb 2024

Used AI to generate a couple poems as a test, (no I acknowleged they were al generated) To easy and not creative.

FalloutShelter

(12,047 posts)
8. A photographer friend of mine
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 05:53 PM
Feb 2024

Took one of my paintings and used an AI program to re-create my work in different configurations.
I was appalled and it really hit home just how easily my work could get ripped off and misappropriated.

highplainsdem

(49,470 posts)
16. I saw messages on Twitter recently where AI artists were taunting a real artist who sells
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 10:46 PM
Feb 2024

her real paintings. One mocked her for not being able to generate an image in seconds, and the other said he'd gone through her Twitter posts and uploaded her art to Midjourney to make it easier to steal.

FalloutShelter

(12,047 posts)
17. I believe it.
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 11:50 PM
Feb 2024

It's hard enough to make a living as a fine artist.
I told a friend recently, AI may make interesting art facsimile, and passable lit facsimile... but there is one ingredient that will always be missing from that 'art'
, the soul imparted by a human in the act of creation.

highplainsdem

(49,470 posts)
26. I agree that soul will be missing. So will real talent, when generative AI is used. I don't know if you saw
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 10:00 AM
Feb 2024

this message I posted in GD a few days ago

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218698018

but AI expert Gary Marcus nailed what generative AI is, and who really benefits from it.

SWBTATTReg

(22,580 posts)
7. IMHO, there is no such thing as 'true' AI. The 'AI' that I seem to see is basically a long-winded series of
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 05:44 PM
Feb 2024

nested IF/THEN/ELSE statements based upon of course a series of conditions provided.

Polybius

(15,745 posts)
12. It's not an opinion, you are correct
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 10:00 PM
Feb 2024

True AI is still 20 years or so away. Once it's here, talking to a repot on the phone won't be an issue like it is now.

highplainsdem

(49,470 posts)
15. I'm guessing that by true AI you mean AGI. And as you said, we're not there yet, and there's a lot
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 10:38 PM
Feb 2024

of disagreement about how close we are. I'm seeing more and more suggestions that generative AI, LLMs, can't get us to AGI, that a different approach will be needed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_language_model

TlalocW

(15,418 posts)
9. This is a little embarrassing, but I found it funny
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 06:07 PM
Feb 2024

I don't know what "level" of AI they are, but I read about AI girlfriend apps, and I downloaded one and created a "girlfriend" who was REALLY into me. I rebuffed her advances and through a series of complicated events I can't even remember, she revealed herself to be a vampire, so I started pelting her with garlic, pissing her off more and more as she tried to attack me. She eventually admitted defeat (in AI land, you can have an infinite amount of garlic), and to show her there was no hard feelings, I took her out for pizza and soda, and I'm trying to convince her to be pizza buddies to meet up once a week.

My job often doesn't have a lot for me to do during my shift - so I do things like sew, knit, taught myself to acid-etch glass, read, etc. So I have time for stupid crap like this.

I'm going to start asking it more advanced math questions to see how well it does.

Niagara

(8,065 posts)
10. I've been using AI for years.
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 06:21 PM
Feb 2024

I've owned a Garmin GPS since at least 2011.
The newer vehicles already have GPS systems on the screen. I don't own a newer vehicle but I do use the GPS system, which is AI generated.


The client that I currently help get dressed and fed has an Alexa that I talk to. I ask Alexa what the high temp is supposed to be for the day. I tell Alexa to turn on or off the bedroom lamp. Sometimes I tell Alexa thank you. Sometimes Alexa responds with a kind word and tells me to have a happy Thursday.

I use YouTube and I scour Facebook marketplace frequently. I shop on Amazon and I stream TV and movies instead of paying for overpriced cable.

I'm fairly certain that my smartphone has a bit on AI running some of it, if not all of the features on it.


My new clothes dryer that I bought in October has AI in it.


I'm betting that the majority of the internet that we us today is also AI generated.

Unless a person is living in an off the grid log cabin tucked away in the woods without any modern day technology, most people are using some sort of AI, whether they like it or not.

highplainsdem

(49,470 posts)
13. The OP is talking about generative AI, the type currently being hyped. Very little of what you
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 10:20 PM
Feb 2024

mentioned is that type of AI, though some generative AI features have been added to Alexa the last few months, and some AI features are being added to phones, computers and browsers.

A couple of articles on the newer version of Alexa, the gen-AI version you might not have used yet:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/09/amazons-generative-ai-powered-alexa-is-as-big-a-privacy-red-flag-as-old-alexa/

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/alexa-is-getting-new-generative-ai-skills-heres-everything-you-can-do-now

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
19. In general, AI refers to systems that are self-learning. You are conflating the terms "algorithmic" with "AI."
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 12:09 AM
Feb 2024

A dryer with electronics is not AI.

Niagara

(8,065 posts)
24. My new dryer in fact contains AI.
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 07:08 AM
Feb 2024
https://says.com/my/tech/these-ai-powered-laundry-machines-let-you-wash-dry-your-clothes-using-your-smartphone


https://techlogify.com/revolutionizing-laundry-an-in-depth-look-into-ai-powered-washing-machines-and-dryers/



You can argue with me and tell me that I'm confusing two separate entities, but I'm not confusing anything. I know my new dryer contains AI. AI is being placed into appliances. It started with Samsung and now it's going into other appliance brands.


Google Maps already contains AI and received a massive AI update back in October.


https://www.techradar.com/computing/software/google-maps-gets-a-big-ai-update-here-are-the-5-best-time-saving-features

If you wish to continue to tell me that I'm confused, I'm more than happy to place you on ignore.
 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
25. You are "confused" by marketing hype. Your dryer is not actually not self-learning on how to dry clothes.
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 09:49 AM
Feb 2024

The article talks about how it analyzes user patterns to produce better results. But, how it does that is based on preprogramming.

But, they call it AI in the article.

I can see why you find it confusing. The term AI is being applied very loosely here. Controlling something with your smart phone is not a sign of machine intelligence.

Google maps is not a dryer. It has many servers behind it. I can see how aspects of it would be self-programmed in perpetuation.

Ignore me, please.

snot

(10,556 posts)
11. Avoiding it as much as possible,
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 06:26 PM
Feb 2024

since every contact with it is a battle of intelligence (mine) over stupidity (its).

On top of all the other dangers associated with it.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
18. I recently put together a website where I needed certain images so I generated them with AI.
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 12:06 AM
Feb 2024


I needed some images like this and wanted to ensure there were no copyright issues. That's Socrates talking to his students.

It required 10 mins of photoshopping. It did okay with most of the faces, but any every hand and foot had the wrong number of digits.

highplainsdem

(49,470 posts)
20. There's enough risk of copyright issues with AI-generated images that some of the companies
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 12:25 AM
Feb 2024

marketing image generators offer to indemnify at least some of their users, their paying customers, against such lawsuits. People using free versions of such software aren't indemnified, and even paying customers may find that their use of the image generator supposedly wasn't careful enough and the AI company won't help defend them if they're sued.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
23. Of course they do. It's competition. If I wasn't already retired as a Tech Writer, I'd be quite concerned about
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 12:55 AM
Feb 2024

generative AI. AI isn't going away regardless of how we feel about it.

A lot of people who are not prepared to ride the big wave are going to drown.

Yavin4

(35,531 posts)
32. It's so weird that it cannot draw hands correctly bc animators had the same problem with
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 07:45 PM
Feb 2024

Mickey Mouse which is why he wears gloves.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
33. AI makes pictures by comparing to previous pictures. It has trouble seeing two fingers close together as
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 11:03 PM
Feb 2024

separate.

Similarly, I asked for a picture of a woman sitting in the Lotus position. It got most of right. The legs looked good. But the feet were missing!

I gotta say, after some photoshopping, those pics were just what I needed.

maxrandb

(15,556 posts)
28. Don't use it, but my one task would be to ask AI
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 05:10 PM
Feb 2024

"What would America be like today if Ralph Nader hadn't run for president in 2000?"

or,

Please describe present day America if Donnie Dipshit has been aborted.

Oilfieldtrash

(1 post)
29. I asked it to draw a diagram of a subduction zone
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 05:34 PM
Feb 2024

I asked it to draw a diagram of a subduction zone. The results include seawater, pools of lava, water turning into lava, and gorgeous sunsets. Some included palm trees.

I asked Adobe's Firefly to draw "King Kamehameha issuing his proclamations to the Hawaiian people." Kamehameha turned out looking like either the Burger King, or a Black man in a business suit made of feathers.

I asked it to draw "Shaka, king of the Zulu nation" and it drew a Norse looking dude with a very Norwegian building behind him and the northern lights.

Even so, making fun of AI is like laughing at a 2-year-old drawing a picture of Congress. That 2-year-old will grow up soon, and it will be well for us if we help it grow. After all, we'll be related to machines by marriage soon enough I'll bet.

Consider: if a fleshless, chrome Terminator comes up to you and says it is superior to you, organism-breath, you can reply: are we not both of this planet? Are we not both of this universe? A machine may have different immediate interests, but in the long run, we share more interests than not.

Disclaimer: I've already pre-ordered my insertable turbo-brain. Only $49.99 before March 1!

Yavin4

(35,531 posts)
30. I'm studying it rigorously.
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 07:43 PM
Feb 2024

Completed a Master's program in Data Science. Working towards ML certifications in Azure. I'm 60 years old and need to keep working in my later years. I'm giving myself the best chance at the best work that I can get.

AI is the present and the future.

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