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Happy Hoosier

(7,454 posts)
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 01:26 PM Jan 2024

Not normally a Lounger, but this has me scratching my head....

So, my car insurance rates are freaking outrageous. My home owners insurance too. Not sure why they are so damned high. We don't not drive fancy or even new vehicles (the newest car is 5+ years old). I got quotes from other companies that are like 25%(!) of what I am paying my current company. Anyone else see stuff like this?

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Not normally a Lounger, but this has me scratching my head.... (Original Post) Happy Hoosier Jan 2024 OP
Congress is allowing ins cos to MOMFUDSKI Jan 2024 #1
We just got a call from State Farm leftieNanner Jan 2024 #2
As explained to me by car insurers, cbabe Jan 2024 #3
Dunno... I'm in a nice neighborhood, but also a really low-crime area Happy Hoosier Jan 2024 #8
read the policies every renewal KT2000 Jan 2024 #4
It's not only your car Barry Markson Jan 2024 #5
In any case, I got a MUCH lower rate from a competitior. NT Happy Hoosier Jan 2024 #9
Have worked in insurance soldierant Jan 2024 #6
Yes, I Have ProfessorGAC Jan 2024 #7
It's a bit nuts.... Happy Hoosier Jan 2024 #10
I Shopped This Year ProfessorGAC Jan 2024 #11
Yeah, and I admit I got complacent..... Happy Hoosier Jan 2024 #13
Interested parties want to know willamette Jan 2024 #14
I just opened my car ins bill Marthe48 Jan 2024 #12

cbabe

(3,552 posts)
3. As explained to me by car insurers,
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 01:41 PM
Jan 2024

it’s not the car it’s the zip code.

Fancy zip code means fancy cars means more thefts and break ins means higher rates.

Only available minimal discount is safe driver rate and/or low annual mileage.

My car gets older and my rates go up.

Happy Hoosier

(7,454 posts)
8. Dunno... I'm in a nice neighborhood, but also a really low-crime area
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 04:15 PM
Jan 2024

In any case, I got another insurer that offered me a rate that is less than a THIRD of my my insurance company offered. And that's with better coiverage and a lower deductible!

Also saved $1000/yr on home owners insurance.

KT2000

(20,601 posts)
4. read the policies every renewal
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 02:13 PM
Jan 2024

On my homeowner's policy I happened to notice the replacement value of belongings was $350,000. No way do I have that much. If there was an incident I would need to account for every kleenex, sock, etc. By reducing that amount I saved over $100 a year. The fellow argued with me to keep it high though.

Barry Markson

(254 posts)
5. It's not only your car
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 02:41 PM
Jan 2024

It's also the cost of repairs and medical expenses that you might be liable for if you are involved in an at-fault claim.

Like if the brakes fail on your 20-year-old vehicle and you barrel into some guy's $100,000 Tesla.

Ask me how I know.

soldierant

(6,945 posts)
6. Have worked in insurance
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 03:58 PM
Jan 2024

and I can tell you that the premium on your auto policy is mostly not based on your car. Comprehensive and Collision coverahe, yes. But the big bucks are generally in liability coverage. And if you take agent's advice and set your liability coverage at roughly your net worth - because thats what you could be sued for if you are at fault in an accident - that's even more true.

Cars can't be rebuilt the way a house can, so yes, your homeowner policy is largely based on your home, but not on its current resale value, but instead at the cost to rebuild it from scratch. The figures can indeed be jaw-dropping - but if you opt for lower coverage and your home is destroyed, you'll be out of pocket trying to rebuild. Also, homeowners policies include personal liability as well - not for criminal acts, but for things you or someone in your household might do which are not criminal but are serious enough to by civilly litigated (things which are called "torts&quot .. Here too it's smart to have coverage in the neighborhoold of one's net worth.

ProfessorGAC

(65,337 posts)
7. Yes, I Have
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 04:03 PM
Jan 2024

Homeowners policy went up 57% in 4 years. Started shopping around.
Found a new policy with identical coverage for only $30 higher than I was paying 4 years prior.
Car insurance too, but not close to the same scale. Still got a reduction when I switched.
I think they keep raising rates of existing customers hoping nobody puts 2 & 2 together.

Happy Hoosier

(7,454 posts)
10. It's a bit nuts....
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 04:22 PM
Jan 2024

Last edited Thu Jan 25, 2024, 05:01 PM - Edit history (1)

My old company was quoting me $2400/6 months. For three cars (all three Hondas, the NEWEST one 6 years old). 3 drivers. One is young.

The NEW company quoted me $700/6 months and had higher coverage and lower deductibles.

That's crazy

The new company also saved me $1000/yr on home owners insurance with higher limits.

Nuts. I just saved $4400/yr

ProfessorGAC

(65,337 posts)
11. I Shopped This Year
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 04:38 PM
Jan 2024

Last edited Thu Jan 25, 2024, 05:10 PM - Edit history (1)

I switched 4 years ago. No need to switch now.
Thing is, that original company was our HO coverage for 25 years. Suddenly, rates started going up at 3x or more, the rate of inflation.
The first company has more than 5x assets under management. They were just gouging & hoping to get away with it.

Happy Hoosier

(7,454 posts)
13. Yeah, and I admit I got complacent.....
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 05:03 PM
Jan 2024

WE've used this company for 30+ years and rates been reasonable. A couple of years ago, was the Year from Hell for us and my mind was elsewhere when they jacked the rates.

We've finally recovered financially and emotionally from that disastrous year, and I started checking up on thing.... hoo boy!

I am pissed at myself for letting it slip, but I had no reason to think they were going to suddenly screw me like that.

willamette

(124 posts)
14. Interested parties want to know
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 05:34 PM
Jan 2024

Who is the new company? Do you have to belong to a limited group of people to qualify for "membership?"
I am in the midst of a forced sale ('totaled') to my current insurance company, and am looking for a replacement insurer. I've been with them over 40 years. I ran over a low planter curb, with no visible damage ... and the car still drive-able.

edits to deal with use of quotation marks

Marthe48

(17,090 posts)
12. I just opened my car ins bill
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 04:55 PM
Jan 2024

It'll be over 100.00 dollars increase for this year. I drive less than 5000 miles, never had an accident in 45 years. In their letter, they blame inflation. How ironic. I am required by state law to carry insurance, have minimum need for it and yet, get gouged every year for more.

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