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Aristus

(66,901 posts)
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 01:32 PM Feb 2023

It's only Wednesday, and already it's been a spectacularly shitty week in clinic.

Monday afternoon was crazy enough without any extracurricular nonsense. But I nearly had to throw a patient out of the clinic for good. I've visited with this patient for a couple of years now. When he's not high as a kite on cocaine, he's a real sweetie. When he's hopped up on cocaine it's even odds that he's going to be either annoyingly upbeat or a real trash-monster.

He receives disability benefits from the state, which requires regular updated paperwork if one is going to continue to receive one's benefits. Well, Monday afternoon, he barged into the clinic, pushed past everyone wanting a spot on the shower list, or to do laundry, or to go on standby for a clinic visit (the schedule was already maxed out, which is its own stress factor.) and shoves his state papers in my face as I was coming back to my office after finishing with a patient. "I'M GOING TO LOSE MY PLACE! I'M GOING TO LOSE MY FOOD BENEFITS!" he shouted at me (none of this was my fault), and he demanded a letter from me to give to the state to stave off a dismissal.

I told him I was in the middle of clinic and didn't have time right now. He wasn't happy, but he grumbled and hunkered down in the waiting room. A little later, I'm at my desk trying to chart the latest visit before moving on to the next patient. My MA Supervisor came in to the office to tell me he had been accosted by this patient, who told him if I didn't give him a medical approval letter to give to the state, he "would see me outside when the clinic closed."

I stormed out to the waiting room and gestured for him to follow me. I led him back to the lab, the only room not in use at the moment, closed the door behind us, and read him the riot act. I told him not to threaten me, not now, not ever; he's lucky I don't call the cops on him (I didn't bother lowering my voice; my MA Supervisor said he could hear me from his office) I told him this is not how you get anything out of me, and if he ever threatens me or anyone on my staff again, it will not go well for him.

This is not like junior high; when a bully threatened me with a beating "after school", I would tremble in terror for the rest of the school day, then slink home by a different route. Not anymore. Someone threatens me, I let them have it.

Well, I did. He cowered in the phlebotomy chair for a minute, and then burst into tears. (For a second I thought 'Wait. Am I the bully now?' ) I softened a bit and told him that I had always been there for him, and still would be, 100%. But he can't behave like that and expect to get what he wanted. I told him I'd do what I can to keep his state benefits going, but he can't stage a sit-in in my clinic, and issue threats like a mob enforcer. I got him to calm down, and then gave him a hug. Then I went back to my office to try and calm myself down.

Yesterday was no better. Another one of my homeless patients is suffering terribly from depression, and is having a hard time sleeping at the shelter (noise, smell, snoring, bed-bugs, etc.) He started crying during the visit; I held his hand and gave him a tissue to clean up with. I prescribed something to help him sleep, and walked him over to our counselor to see if she could help, and to send him a message that we're not going to leave him hanging.

Last roundhouse to the jaw for the day: clearing out my electronic in-box when I see a message from the local morgue: one of my patients had died that afternoon. Drug overdose. She had been suffering terribly from addiction for about the last three years, and I hadn't seen her in around a year and a half; she constantly no-showed for her appointments, and her in-home caregiver was sending me pessimistic updates on our patient's progress, or lack of it. I put my head down on my desk and cried for a bit. She had been pretty, funny, smart, with a biting sarcastic wit. She also had a developmentally delayed sister who was also one of my patients. And I'm still wondering what's going to become of the sister now that the one person who could look out for her is gone.




Anyway, thank you for reading all of this. i'm trying to get it off my chest. Looking forward to a drink, or two, or three on Friday. Dreading the next couple of days. I love you all...



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It's only Wednesday, and already it's been a spectacularly shitty week in clinic. (Original Post) Aristus Feb 2023 OP
Sorry Mate :( Hugh_Lebowski Feb 2023 #1
I hope today is a better day. riverbendviewgal Feb 2023 #2
It is. I'm off on Wednesdays. Aristus Feb 2023 #3
Is it any small wonder DENVERPOPS Feb 2023 #24
I'm an atheist, but Aristus, you are doing the Lord's work -- seriously. enough Feb 2023 #4
Well done! pandr32 Feb 2023 #5
Thank you. That was sweet. Aristus Feb 2023 #7
Totally understand your situation Aristus montanacowboy Feb 2023 #6
Sending hugs and holding positive thoughts that the good livetohike Feb 2023 #8
+1. Salute Tetrachloride Feb 2023 #9
Thank you. Aristus Feb 2023 #10
I taught and saw a lot of kids and parents with issues badhair77 Feb 2023 #11
You have a very difficult job. tiredtoo Feb 2023 #12
You are truly doing cilla4progress Feb 2023 #13
Thank you, cilla. Aristus Feb 2023 #38
I don't know how you do it cate94 Feb 2023 #14
Remember... ZenDem Feb 2023 #15
This is for when Friday comes around. iscooterliberally Feb 2023 #16
Thank you for bringing so much healing into a world which needs it so badly bedazzled Feb 2023 #17
We all love you, too! ancianita Feb 2023 #18
Physician Assistant. But thank you. Aristus Feb 2023 #25
Great! That physician is blessed, too! ancianita Feb 2023 #27
I never see him anymore. Aristus Feb 2023 #29
Ah. Thanks for the details. ancianita Feb 2023 #30
We're a community health organization, so we get state and federal funding. Aristus Feb 2023 #31
I see. ancianita Feb 2023 #32
I hope your week gets better. WDLAL Feb 2023 #19
Thank you. Aristus Feb 2023 #53
So sorry. Condolences. Please stay encouraged, Aristus. We love you. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Feb 2023 #20
Thank you, lmsp. Aristus Feb 2023 #39
Damn. I'm so sorry. I'm glad you are there for these people. GPV Feb 2023 #21
Love you too. tavernier Feb 2023 #22
I had a Manhattan for my Friday night cocktail a few weeks ago. Aristus Feb 2023 #40
Bourbon makes the best Manhattan. tavernier Feb 2023 #43
Sorry, Aristus. The trenches are not pretty. I wish you consolation and strength. n/t TygrBright Feb 2023 #23
... alwaysinasnit Feb 2023 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Prairie_Seagull Feb 2023 #28
I wish I could help you LittleGirl Feb 2023 #33
Thanks ms.pamela Feb 2023 #34
You deserve a house full of furry, 4-legged therapists. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2023 #35
Thank you for who you are and the work you do. LuckyLib Feb 2023 #36
Thank you. TdeV Feb 2023 #37
Thank you all for your kind words and expressions of support. Aristus Feb 2023 #41
Not everyone wants to be saved, babylonsister Feb 2023 #42
Hell is not just in afterlife. live love laugh Feb 2023 #44
Deep breath. Care for yourself first. You're doing the work of angels... CousinIT Feb 2023 #45
Dearest Aristus - In our assorted discussions... 3catwoman3 Feb 2023 #46
Thank you, 3catwoman3; that means a lot. Aristus Feb 2023 #48
I'm so sorry you're having to deal with so much stress, Aristus. highplainsdem Feb 2023 #47
Thank you for the hugs, highplainsdem. Aristus Feb 2023 #49
And we love you back. Sending lots of virtual hugs and vibes for strength and niyad Feb 2023 #50
Thank you, niyad. Aristus Feb 2023 #51
I am planning on it. niyad Feb 2023 #52
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. Sorry Mate :(
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 01:36 PM
Feb 2023

That sounds incredibly stressful and in the case of the death and the sister, very sad.

Hope your week gets better somehow

Aristus

(66,901 posts)
3. It is. I'm off on Wednesdays.
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 01:41 PM
Feb 2023

I went down to 0.8 FTE about a year ago, to try to stave off burnout. It's been helpful, and worth the lost income.

DENVERPOPS

(9,133 posts)
24. Is it any small wonder
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 04:06 PM
Feb 2023

so many health care workers are burning out, and bailing out of the medical care profession???????

montanacowboy

(6,154 posts)
6. Totally understand your situation Aristus
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 01:54 PM
Feb 2023

having worked at DSHS (WA State) with the most disadvantaged sometime the frustration is just too much.

badhair77

(4,291 posts)
11. I taught and saw a lot of kids and parents with issues
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 02:38 PM
Feb 2023

and I was always relieved there were people like you helping to pick up their out-of-school lives. I admire what you do and i know it takes a lot out of you. Please know there are people who appreciate you and your colleagues. Hope you can regroup on this day off.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
12. You have a very difficult job.
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 03:01 PM
Feb 2023

I went to a psychologist to help me with depression. She did a really good job bringing me out of it. Our sessions ended. Later when Christmas came, I sent her a Christmas card and told her thank you for the good work you do.
Hopefully at least one of your patients do the same to you.

cilla4progress

(24,967 posts)
13. You are truly doing
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 03:06 PM
Feb 2023

goddess' (or whom- or whatever's!) work, Aristus!

What I mean is...I hope you know that you are a HERO! Such compassion! Especially in the face of deep distress - yours, and your patients.

I deeply admire you, and you are a beacon for me in MY human services work!





ZenDem

(442 posts)
15. Remember...
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 03:22 PM
Feb 2023

...with every horrible day, every ungrateful human, every sad outcome...there are the lives you've touched, saved, bettered. Some, maybe even most, you have no clue to the extent your kindness has had an impact. They remember you, they pray to their gods for you, they talk about the doc that took a few minutes to make a difference. Millions of little and big differences in so many lives.

None of this eases your pain or anxiety, but the world is a better place because of people like you. So, for your own mind, remember those souls the way they remember you.

~Namaste and happy day off!

bedazzled

(1,792 posts)
17. Thank you for bringing so much healing into a world which needs it so badly
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 03:28 PM
Feb 2023

Your sacrifices will not go unrewarded...

Sending you some primo healing energy. Hope you can feel it!

ancianita

(36,559 posts)
18. We all love you, too!
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 03:38 PM
Feb 2023

You are one badass doctor and human being. Cry it out -- and then get on with your badass self!
You are what keeps me having faith in humanity. (Believe you me, I'm so close to losing it.)

Thank you for sharing your hard week. That you esteem us enough to do that means we're a blessed group in a blessed place on the nets.

Aristus

(66,901 posts)
29. I never see him anymore.
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 04:18 PM
Feb 2023

My homeless clinic is a satellite of the mainstream clinic a couple of blocks away. I talk to my supervising physician on the phone now and then, but I'm the only medical provider in the homeless clinic. My MA Supervisor tried to tell my out-of-control patient this at the time, pointing out that there's only so much of me to go around during clinic hours.

ancianita

(36,559 posts)
30. Ah. Thanks for the details.
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 04:24 PM
Feb 2023

Looks as if it's not only the patients, it the structure of your not having enough help. I wonder if there could be a meeting about this. If it's a for profit facility, probably not. But maybe a Build Back Better grant? But what do I know.

Aristus

(66,901 posts)
31. We're a community health organization, so we get state and federal funding.
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 04:30 PM
Feb 2023

We're officially a not-for-profit, but that doesn't stop the admins from taking home million-dollar salaries.

Getting another provider for the homeless clinic would be difficult. Even the mainstream clinic has difficulty keeping providers because the turnover rate is so high. And when they're hiring new staff for my clinic, I tell them I want only volunteers; I don't want anyone working at the homeless clinic who doesn't want to be there.

ancianita

(36,559 posts)
32. I see.
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 04:35 PM
Feb 2023

Well, it seems to me that
a) this kind of shitty week can get more frequent (maybe your records can show a developing pattern) and
b) millions for admins could be on the agenda of a serious board meeting, then.

There's absolutely no sense in this stress forcing you toward lawyers' drinking habits when real clinic help is way more important than an admin.

WDLAL

(36 posts)
19. I hope your week gets better.
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 03:39 PM
Feb 2023

I’m so thankful there are people who are able to do what you do. It’s so very sad knowing about all the lives lost to addiction. So much wasted potential, so many families broken, babies born positive for drugs who will struggle all their lives.

tavernier

(12,527 posts)
22. Love you too.
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 03:59 PM
Feb 2023

Retired nurse here. Try a Manhattan on rocks with one of those overpriced cherries. Or two.

Aristus

(66,901 posts)
40. I had a Manhattan for my Friday night cocktail a few weeks ago.
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 09:27 PM
Feb 2023

I’m not the biggest fan in the world of rye whiskey. So I substituted a sublime local bourbon. Yummy!

tavernier

(12,527 posts)
43. Bourbon makes the best Manhattan.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 12:08 AM
Feb 2023

I’m partial to an Irish whiskey and have tried a few but they just don't have that unique Manhattan flavor.
I hope the rest of your week is smooth sailing.

Response to Aristus (Original post)

LittleGirl

(8,299 posts)
33. I wish I could help you
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 04:40 PM
Feb 2023

Sounds like your empathy meter maxed out and it’s hump day.
It seems to get worse before it gets better.
You do deserve a hug. Cheers.

LuckyLib

(6,830 posts)
36. Thank you for who you are and the work you do.
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 05:56 PM
Feb 2023

You are battling within a broken system that has relegated the poor and struggling to what little crumbs our society wants to give.

Aristus

(66,901 posts)
41. Thank you all for your kind words and expressions of support.
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 09:29 PM
Feb 2023

I’m overwhelmed. I said it above, but I’ll say it again: I love you all…

babylonsister

(171,217 posts)
42. Not everyone wants to be saved,
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 09:44 PM
Feb 2023

and that's so sad, yet you keep trying. Simply, you care, and that's getting rarer and rarer.

CousinIT

(9,390 posts)
45. Deep breath. Care for yourself first. You're doing the work of angels...
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 10:37 AM
Feb 2023

....which I myself could not do. It's HARD. Especially when you care. But reserve a little of that care for YOU. Don't drink too much. That won't help.

Who can give YOU a hug? I mean a REAL one, not virtual.

They won't or can't thank you for all you do for them. But I thank you. And no doubt the Universe and the Great IT (what I call "God" sometimes), certainly thanks you.

3catwoman3

(24,378 posts)
46. Dearest Aristus - In our assorted discussions...
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 12:31 PM
Feb 2023

…of our careers, you have often expressed that you found pediatrics challenging. I find what you do overwhelming, and I could not have spent 45 years doing what you do. You have my profound admiration.

Most of outpatient private pediatrics is a relatively happy specialty. As an NP, I never had to break bad news to parents as that was always done by the docs, which was fine with me. With very rare exceptions, I seldom worked by myself as all 3 of our offices were designed to have 2 of us seeing patients. That was also fine with me, as on those rare solo days, that would be when someone would have a problem outside my comfort zone, or it would be one of the families that didn’t think an NP was good enough to see their child and be pissed off because the doctor was not available.

I’m so glad to hear that you are not 5 days a week anymore.

Please take as good care of yourself as you do of your patients.

highplainsdem

(49,488 posts)
47. I'm so sorry you're having to deal with so much stress, Aristus.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 12:43 PM
Feb 2023

Sending hugs

I found it difficult enough being a caregiver, with usually only one person to worry about. Can't imagine how difficult it must be to try to take care of so many, with limited time and resources, especially if they're not cooperating.

niyad

(115,082 posts)
50. And we love you back. Sending lots of virtual hugs and vibes for strength and
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 12:58 PM
Feb 2023

endurance. You are such a bright and loving light in this nutso world. Know that we have your back, always.

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