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haele

(12,553 posts)
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 07:50 PM Oct 2022

How the hell does anyone get addicted to Oxycodone?

I just had full knee replacement surgery on Thursday, and even at "low dose pain" level, all it does is make me constipated, nauseous and dizzy. My main issue is stiffness and muscle numbness.
Hell with it, I'm going back to Tylenol and stretches.

It may be hurt, but damn, the nausea and dizziness is worse.

Haele

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How the hell does anyone get addicted to Oxycodone? (Original Post) haele Oct 2022 OP
Opioid addicts actually get energized by taking them. SheltieLover Oct 2022 #1
I received Vicodin once for ACL repair... TheRealNorth Oct 2022 #13
Be very careful with them, as this is classic reaction by those who are opioid dependent! SheltieLover Nov 2022 #50
I hear ya TheRealNorth Nov 2022 #58
Glad you are being careful. SheltieLover Nov 2022 #59
They give me energy! LeftInTX Nov 2022 #48
Be very careful with them then! SheltieLover Nov 2022 #49
This was in 1990. And yes, I take about 1/2 pill of Tyl #3 every day. LeftInTX Nov 2022 #52
Sorry to hear you are suffering this way. SheltieLover Nov 2022 #60
I do my own acupuncture..LOL LeftInTX Nov 2022 #61
I was given it after a foot surgery underpants Oct 2022 #2
You're fortunate. rubbersole Oct 2022 #3
I do feel for those suffering from addiction. haele Oct 2022 #8
I was thinking the same thing TexasBushwhacker Oct 2022 #14
After my surgery I would only take a 1/4 chip blm Oct 2022 #4
Oxy was sold to doctors by salsemen as "non addictive" pain killer. The brainwashed doctors mitch96 Oct 2022 #5
Thankfully they control it much better. jimfields33 Oct 2022 #19
MD's today are taught basically three things to treat a patient... mitch96 Oct 2022 #39
I'm actually surprised that everyone is going home with oxycodone. LeftInTX Nov 2022 #74
Yeah, but if we prescribe carefully and judiciously, Aristus Nov 2022 #67
I took one after I broke my wrist Island Blue Oct 2022 #6
Hang tough...my SO had hers done just barely over a month ago... Enter stage left Oct 2022 #7
Both knees needed to be replaced. haele Oct 2022 #11
Good luck to you. Please don't be discouraged if it takes much spooky3 Oct 2022 #27
There is a useful device to help with recovery flyingfysh Oct 2022 #20
I had one of those when I had foot surgery blueinredohio Oct 2022 #28
+1 TheRealNorth Nov 2022 #40
I kept mine too. blueinredohio Nov 2022 #41
Kinda like coke and me in the 70's. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2022 #9
We are kindred spirits.😀 Phoenix61 Oct 2022 #10
Backatcha. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2022 #12
Never touched it Effete Snob Oct 2022 #15
I tried everything. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2022 #18
We Were Surrounded By It ProfessorGAC Nov 2022 #43
During the 90s, I wasn't into coke to get high. LudwigPastorius Nov 2022 #56
I had the same surgery, but didn't have those problems flyingfysh Oct 2022 #16
I had foot surgery 6 weeks ago. MLAA Oct 2022 #17
Tell me about it....I thought the entire Suez Canal was backed up inside. Historic NY Oct 2022 #21
Weed does it for my husband - cilla4progress Oct 2022 #22
I had oxycodone after I fell chillfactor Oct 2022 #23
I don't feel much of anything with opioids, nocoincidences Oct 2022 #24
i cant do any of those opiates..even when i had 6 teeth extracted all i took samnsara Oct 2022 #25
You don't have the genetics that make it fun. Be glad. TigressDem Oct 2022 #26
I totally get how people get hooked. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2022 #29
I Do Too RobinA Oct 2022 #37
I was prescribed some for a root canal, never used it until I had a knee injury. Ocelot II Oct 2022 #30
I believe it was Hydrocodone that my doctor prescribed when I had TMJ and couldn't lie down or sleep Rhiannon12866 Oct 2022 #31
Well, if you don't want those pills ... Earth-shine Oct 2022 #32
I didn't get nauseous or dizzy. Elessar Zappa Oct 2022 #33
the new drug is Tramadol onethatcares Oct 2022 #34
Tramadol makes me as sick as the other stuff. BlackSkimmer Nov 2022 #46
I'm really surprised that everyone is being sent home with oxys! LeftInTX Nov 2022 #66
I had IV Fentanyl for about 5 days in the hospital with LuckyCharms Nov 2022 #80
I know someone who fell shortly after knee replacement surgery because he was dizzy highplainsdem Oct 2022 #35
It wires me to the wall. One dose and no sleep for 24 hours. Chainfire Oct 2022 #36
Well, It's Not Supposed RobinA Oct 2022 #38
Based on this thread, it's a fairly common reaction LeftInTX Nov 2022 #81
No Nausea Here ProfessorGAC Nov 2022 #42
I prefer hydrocodone when I can get it Kali Nov 2022 #44
Yeah, I was thinking something similar LeftInTX Nov 2022 #51
Good to hear. I remember when you were going through that. panader0 Nov 2022 #54
I can't take pain meds either. BlackSkimmer Nov 2022 #45
Itook it after gall bladder surgery Marthe48 Nov 2022 #47
If you ever are in so much pain that you have no choice but to take one, LuckyCharms Nov 2022 #53
Is oxy controlled release??? LeftInTX Nov 2022 #62
I don't know if they make a controlled released Oxy. The ones that I LuckyCharms Nov 2022 #65
Edit to the above: LuckyCharms Nov 2022 #68
Everything says tablets are control released. LeftInTX Nov 2022 #69
There are two different versions of this drug. LuckyCharms Nov 2022 #70
Oh..OK..thx...yes..just cut the things if they are not extended release! LeftInTX Nov 2022 #71
It's very confusing... LuckyCharms Nov 2022 #73
All Oxy RobinA Nov 2022 #75
Please see link in post #70. n/t LuckyCharms Nov 2022 #79
people react to medication in different ways Skittles Nov 2022 #55
You seem to have a strong reaction... LeftInTX Nov 2022 #63
Opioids don't relieve the pain for me - they just make me stupid csziggy Nov 2022 #57
If you try hard enough, you can get addicted to almost anything. Aristus Nov 2022 #64
I was a cigarette flunky...I smoked off and on for about five years... LeftInTX Nov 2022 #72
Pick Your Poison RobinA Nov 2022 #76
It didn't feel good to me. Aristus Nov 2022 #77
I can't tolerate ETOH LeftInTX Nov 2022 #82
I've never taken Oxy, but every time Luciferous Nov 2022 #78

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
1. Opioid addicts actually get energized by taking them.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 07:53 PM
Oct 2022

I worked at a methadone clinic for a few years.

Many of my clients told me this.

Blew my mind, tbh, 'cuz they put me to sleep. Took 1 dose after surgery & hated the feeling.

TheRealNorth

(9,384 posts)
13. I received Vicodin once for ACL repair...
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:10 PM
Oct 2022

And it wired me up too. Ended up not having a lot of pain after the first week, so I stopped taking it even though they gave me a full month's worth.

LeftInTX

(24,248 posts)
48. They give me energy!
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:40 PM
Nov 2022

I had an "all natural childbirth" in 1990. Baby was born around 7 pm. So, shortly after, I figured it was a good time to finally get some pain meds and call it a night. Boy, I was wrong! It was really hard to get any sleeping meds too!

LeftInTX

(24,248 posts)
52. This was in 1990. And yes, I take about 1/2 pill of Tyl #3 every day.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:00 PM
Nov 2022

I have chronic pain and it takes off the "edge". Doesn't do much for the severe pain but it kinda helps me to "ignore" the milder stuff. I have fibromyalgia, so it's a mix of different kinds of pain. Only rest, PT, and epidurals work for severe pain.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
60. Sorry to hear you are suffering this way.
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:10 AM
Nov 2022

Have you tried acupuncture or cold laser for pain?

Glad you are careful with meds!

LeftInTX

(24,248 posts)
61. I do my own acupuncture..LOL
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:11 AM
Nov 2022

I've got sharp needles and I go right into the trigger point. It helps. It's time consuming though

What is cold laser???

Physical therapy has been my life saver though!

underpants

(181,613 posts)
2. I was given it after a foot surgery
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 07:53 PM
Oct 2022

I took one and sat there like a zombie for hours. I don’t get it but I feel for those hooked on anything.

rubbersole

(6,153 posts)
3. You're fortunate.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 07:54 PM
Oct 2022

Some people's brains love it and ye ole host can't say no. Sanctimonious Rushbo comes to mind.

haele

(12,553 posts)
8. I do feel for those suffering from addiction.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:00 PM
Oct 2022

There is just nothing pleasant at all with the drug, unless a heavy sleep is the desired outcome.

Haele

TexasBushwhacker

(19,864 posts)
14. I was thinking the same thing
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:11 PM
Oct 2022

It affects dopamine and that's the pleasure/reward neurotransmitter. While it's anecdotal, I've been around a few opiate addicts and I think it just feels more pleasurable to them. Add poor impulse control to the mix and you have someone who gets a little buzz from one pill, so they take another. Then they build up a tolerance and have to take more to get high.

Matthew Perry said he was up to taking 55 Vicodin a day. He got so constipated he didn't have a BM for 10 days and his colon burst! He had a colostomy bag, the whole thing.

My father and his parents were alcoholics and I have one brother that was a heavy duty addict for over 20 years. But me, I just never enjoyed being drunk or high all that much. I didn't want to tempt fate, so it was easy for me to "just say no". It's not so easy for some folks.

blm

(112,768 posts)
4. After my surgery I would only take a 1/4 chip
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 07:56 PM
Oct 2022

at a time right before therapy. A whole pill made me nauseous.

mitch96

(13,652 posts)
5. Oxy was sold to doctors by salsemen as "non addictive" pain killer. The brainwashed doctors
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 07:57 PM
Oct 2022

who believe the "pharmaceutical industrial complex" salesmen dispensed it like water. So you get addicted to the drug and then the MD's cut you off so you go to the street. You buy a pill thinking it's Oxy but it's really a Chinese knock off containing fentanyl.. and then you die...
Neat circle jerk, eh? They get you hooked and then turn you out...
Isn't "non addictive opioid" and oxymoron?
m

jimfields33

(15,157 posts)
19. Thankfully they control it much better.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:18 PM
Oct 2022

Doctors definitely shouldn’t give 30 day supplies. Maybe 5 days worth and go from there. Doctors are more careful but still prescribe way too much.

mitch96

(13,652 posts)
39. MD's today are taught basically three things to treat a patient...
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 11:36 AM
Oct 2022

Burn, cut or poison... Radiation therapy, surgery or drugs..
Physical therapy or Psychiatry are low on the list.. why?
MD's work on the widget principal.
The more widgets you can pump thru the door, the more money they can make. Why do you thing MD's don't spend much time with patients any more? Slows down the widgets.

I get it. Med School is expensive. I've seen many new doctors with grand ideas of helping man kind and "do right" by patients get turned by the all mighty dollar.
Question. How many would go into medicine if they were caped at...say...$150,000/yr.
Darn few I guess.
Don't get me wrong. If I'm in an accident get me to a trauma center right quick.
Other than that keeping a healthy body and a healthy mind is my medicine..
YMMV
m

LeftInTX

(24,248 posts)
74. I'm actually surprised that everyone is going home with oxycodone.
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 11:06 AM
Nov 2022

Docs are beholdened to the DEA and the DEA watches them closely.

A few years ago, my rheumatologist had a talk with me because the DEA was suddenly watching everyone. I take tyl with codeine. He told me, "I need to make sure that you don't call in a script too early, but it's also going to raise red flags if you don't request refills in a timely manner". He said the DEA was watching the volumes closely. After a year or so, my doc relaxed, but he was pretty spooked for awhile. This was around 2010-2012ish, when the DEA started a crackdown.

Aristus

(65,780 posts)
67. Yeah, but if we prescribe carefully and judiciously,
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:33 AM
Nov 2022

your patients scream “YOU JUST WANT ME TO BE IN PAIN!!!”

Until I became a licensed medical provider, I’d never been confronted with so many damned-if-you-do situations.

Island Blue

(5,809 posts)
6. I took one after I broke my wrist
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 07:57 PM
Oct 2022

and threw up almost immediately. Obviously, I would make a horrible drug addict. I have horrible side effects to almost everything!

Enter stage left

(3,381 posts)
7. Hang tough...my SO had hers done just barely over a month ago...
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:00 PM
Oct 2022

She only took 2 oxy pills within 3 days of the surgery and has been on Tylenol and Ibuprofen since then. Still has some muscle and nerve pain, but not as bad as when her knee was killing her.

It will probably get most of us sooner or later. I commiserate with your uncomfortable pain, and wish you the best.

Think how much better you will feel in a few months.

haele

(12,553 posts)
11. Both knees needed to be replaced.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:04 PM
Oct 2022

The next one is due for replacement in February. Surgeon said these were the worst he's seen, no space left in between and bone spurs; should have had them done five years ago.
So I should be frolicking by summer.

Haele

spooky3

(34,064 posts)
27. Good luck to you. Please don't be discouraged if it takes much
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:58 PM
Oct 2022

Longer than you expect to feel good. Everyone’s different.

I also can’t tolerate OxyContin but had to take some other pain med for awhile.

I’m postponing getting my other one done.

flyingfysh

(1,990 posts)
20. There is a useful device to help with recovery
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:21 PM
Oct 2022

It is easier that replacing ice bags frequently. Check out Cryo Cuff. You fill a small bucket with ice and some water. It automatically pumps ice water into a cuff around your knee, and replaces it with new cold water periodically.

I used the motorized version. This was suggested during a session at New England Baptist Hospital (an orthopedics-only hospital) to tell future patients what to expect.

TheRealNorth

(9,384 posts)
40. +1
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 01:28 PM
Nov 2022

I got one after my knee surgery and still have it. I used it last year when my surgically-repaired knee became inflamed for some unknown reason.

OAITW r.2.0

(23,206 posts)
9. Kinda like coke and me in the 70's.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:00 PM
Oct 2022

Snorted it, when offered, but never had the money (or interest) to financially self medicate. Some good Mexican red or Thai sticks, OTOH, I was all in.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
15. Never touched it
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:12 PM
Oct 2022

I knew from all the descriptions that cocaine would be something that was right up my alley.

I figured it was easier to say "no, thanks" once in a while than to lose the bet I wouldn't want more immediately.

OAITW r.2.0

(23,206 posts)
18. I tried everything.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:16 PM
Oct 2022

Coke was "available" all over the place in the early 70's. Unless offered, was not interested in buying. Cash poor. But always found the money to smoke a little dope. Sometimes, do a trip...when I had a day to burn.

ProfessorGAC

(63,846 posts)
43. We Were Surrounded By It
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:38 PM
Nov 2022

Significant club act in the 80s in a major market. People were doing lines on the tables. They didn't even try to hide it.
We did it, but an eigth ounce would last 3 weekends for us. Maybe longer. We were only dropping $200 on an eighth and I was making $300 a week performing. And, we weren't getting new every time we ran out. 8 or 10 times a year, probably.
Our drummer & bass player developed a problem. They were buying 3 eught-balls a week, or more.
The drummer lost everything and fled the US to get away from the people he owed.
The bass player got straight after he got the snot beaten out of him when he fell 2 grand in the hole. Scared him straight. He was heading for worse than a beating.

flyingfysh

(1,990 posts)
16. I had the same surgery, but didn't have those problems
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:13 PM
Oct 2022

It was very helpful while I still needed it. I had none of the problems you had. I had about 3 weeks with lots of painkillers and lots of ice, but after that I didn't need it any more. It was safe for me to drive again after I was off the oxycodone. I never any desire to take more of it after that.

I am well past all that now, and the surgery (and physical therapy) worked out great for me. My surgeon and the hospital did a great job.

MLAA

(16,999 posts)
17. I had foot surgery 6 weeks ago.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:13 PM
Oct 2022

After 2-3 days I stopped taking it as well and went to Tylenol around the clock. Now down to just morning and night dose of Tylenol.

Good luck!

Historic NY

(37,408 posts)
21. Tell me about it....I thought the entire Suez Canal was backed up inside.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:25 PM
Oct 2022

I recently had surgery, the Dr gave me some, he said ok look your going to have to take some just when you need it is ok not to ever so many hours. I still have a huge bottle and then this that I will take for disposal soon .

chillfactor

(7,557 posts)
23. I had oxycodone after I fell
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:35 PM
Oct 2022

and broke my right femur in two places...had to have femur attached to right hip bone. i was in terrible pain. i never had side effects and pain reduced so i could learn to walk again. I can see how easily one could be addicted to oxycodone. It was really tough to give it up.

nocoincidences

(2,168 posts)
24. I don't feel much of anything with opioids,
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:35 PM
Oct 2022

so I do think some people just have more sensitivity to them.

I have been prescribed them as strong as Demerol and it didn't touch my pain.

My go-to pain relief, that actually works for me, is Ibuprofen.

My roommate would roll over and play dead to get any kind of opioid, but it doesn't take much to knock her out.

samnsara

(17,487 posts)
25. i cant do any of those opiates..even when i had 6 teeth extracted all i took
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:36 PM
Oct 2022

..was over the counter stuff

TigressDem

(5,115 posts)
26. You don't have the genetics that make it fun. Be glad.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:50 PM
Oct 2022

If you can tolerate Ibuprofen, I take 2 of them and 1 extra strength Tylenol when my back acts up.

The Ibuprofen helps reduce swelling, which contributes to both pain and stiffness. The Tylenol helps with pain.

Then I use ICE or heat as needed. If I'm having sharp pain but not spasm, I often ICE to numb the pain, but if it's just stiff I use heat.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,434 posts)
29. I totally get how people get hooked.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 09:20 PM
Oct 2022

I broke a few ribs last year and they gave me morphine and dilaudid and I could immediately see why people end up addicted to that stuff. It feels so damn good, like too good. I took the oxys for the first week and then put them away after pain became manageable. No one should feel that good all the time. It’s dangerous.

Opioids seem to affect people differently. My wife can’t take them because they make her all itchy and uncomfortable. Some people react as you do. They’re right in my sweet spot. No bad side effects and a hell of a good high.

RobinA

(9,851 posts)
37. I Do Too
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 10:50 AM
Oct 2022

The little pill of "I don't care." Great for those of us with anxiety. I take it on very rare medical occasions, but I give it a wide berth otherwise. I like it too much, the tolerance is very quick, and yeah, the constipation. I totally get the addiction and I never want to go there.

Ocelot II

(114,577 posts)
30. I was prescribed some for a root canal, never used it until I had a knee injury.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 09:33 PM
Oct 2022

It gave me a pretty pleasant high for about 15 minutes until it put me soundly to sleep. It worked for the pain but I was very careful with it.

Rhiannon12866

(200,820 posts)
31. I believe it was Hydrocodone that my doctor prescribed when I had TMJ and couldn't lie down or sleep
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 02:50 AM
Oct 2022

There was a warning about not driving while you were on it, but I couldn't get off the couch. I know that people can become addicted to it, but I couldn't function, only took it a few times. Fortunately, the TMJ cleared up.

Hope that you're feeling much better soon.

Earth-shine

(3,608 posts)
32. Well, if you don't want those pills ...
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 03:33 AM
Oct 2022


In addition to getting addicted to pleasurable or pain-relieving sensations, I think we can become addicted to things based on fear of pain.

For example, I have a friend who takes Ambien every night. It does not guarantee that she sleeps well. Many nights, she doesn't.

Yet, she fears not taking it. She literally gets afraid if her supply runs low.

Elessar Zappa

(13,480 posts)
33. I didn't get nauseous or dizzy.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 06:38 AM
Oct 2022

I got a warm feeling that relaxed and energized me at the same time. That’s how people get addicted. Just be thankful that you have the reaction you do.

onethatcares

(16,085 posts)
34. the new drug is Tramadol
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 07:56 AM
Oct 2022

I got both Oxys and Tramadol from my orthopedic doc after having my knee replaced, Used the opioid for three days after getting released to home and then went on to Naproxen every 8 hours for two weeks and slowly reduced that. Now after 18 weeks I take a Naproxen when needed, maybe 1 every three days.

I hated being constipated and could not get that teevee commercial about "passing a pineapple" out of my head.

The saddle block and morphine they gave me for the operation caused me a full day of hallucinations which I haven't had since my tripping days in the 70s.

Good luck and quick healing to you.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
46. Tramadol makes me as sick as the other stuff.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:49 PM
Nov 2022

I have bad shoulder pain, but I just can’t take those meds.

LeftInTX

(24,248 posts)
66. I'm really surprised that everyone is being sent home with oxys!
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:31 AM
Nov 2022

I had meniscus surgery in 2013, they gave me Vicodin or something similar.

Can you believe that I've had fentanyl? My back froze in 2012 and I had to go to the ER because I couldn't move. (I thought I had broken my hip) I told them just to give me sedatives and not opioids because they rev me up. Well, the fentanyl didn't rev me up and I was finally able to move.

LuckyCharms

(17,149 posts)
80. I had IV Fentanyl for about 5 days in the hospital with
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 03:37 PM
Nov 2022

pancreatitis.

Apparently, I called my friends several times a day and talked shit to them.

I have no recollection of doing this.

highplainsdem

(48,497 posts)
35. I know someone who fell shortly after knee replacement surgery because he was dizzy
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 08:15 AM
Oct 2022

from Oxycodone. Fortunately did not need more surgery, but had to go to the hospital for scans to make sure.

Chainfire

(17,178 posts)
36. It wires me to the wall. One dose and no sleep for 24 hours.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 08:47 AM
Oct 2022

I will be dreadfully tired, but the brain won't shut down. The stuff effects my son the same way, and doctors don't believe either of us.

RobinA

(9,851 posts)
38. Well, It's Not Supposed
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 10:57 AM
Oct 2022

to work that way, but those doctors should know that many drugs can have a paradoxical effect. We see it in mental health. Give somebody a benzo to calm them down and the next thing you know they are swinging from the ceiling.

LeftInTX

(24,248 posts)
81. Based on this thread, it's a fairly common reaction
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 07:32 PM
Nov 2022

Opium receptors are " pleasure, endorphin". It is a bit of a CNS stimulant for me. It's a proven respiratory depressant, in that it suppresses cough. And it seems to cause constipation in every one.

ProfessorGAC

(63,846 posts)
42. No Nausea Here
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:30 PM
Nov 2022

But, it wasn't enjoyable in any way.
I had a tiny bone spur in my left shoulder caused by a collision in a charity softball game. (Naturally)
Had a cortisone shot and doc gave me Oxycontin & Butazolodin.
Told me to take one of each and get into a tub as hot as I could take getting the shoulder under water.
Did as suggested. Radio was on and suddenly a different song was playing. I then realized the water was barely above room temperature.
I asked my wife how long I was in there and she Saud about an hour & a half.
I said "Weren't you worried about me? How did you know I didn't drown?"
She replied "I was in there talking to you 3 times."
I have no recollection of those conversations.
I decided that painkiller was not for me. I forgot 90 minutes of my life, although fully conscious! Never took one again.
In three days, the pain was completely gone and the follow-up showed no spur. Didn't really need them.

Kali

(54,948 posts)
44. I prefer hydrocodone when I can get it
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:44 PM
Nov 2022

first knee was mostly vicoden and recovery was mostly ok (had a problem that wasn't pain related), second knee was oxy and I was too drugged up for almost two weeks. also different anesthesia protocol that left me nauseous for several days and shit covid cpap regulations not letting me have a good rest to start out recovery well. all good now though just had one year final check of second knee. surgeon was happy and so am I.

LeftInTX

(24,248 posts)
51. Yeah, I was thinking something similar
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:57 PM
Nov 2022

I know the tylenol is a concern, but these surgeries are short term usage

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
45. I can't take pain meds either.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:48 PM
Nov 2022

Two shoulder surgeries and they gave me plenty of that nasty stuff.

I ended up relying on ibuprofen. I still have two bottles of the crap in my medicine cabinet. It literally makes me sick.

Marthe48

(16,400 posts)
47. Itook it after gall bladder surgery
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:00 PM
Nov 2022

I had less pain alternating using ibuprofen and tylenol. I ended up not using the oxycodone.

I feel bad because it was prescribed to my husband while he battled cancer. He died before my gall bladder surgery and I couldn't help wondering if it eased his pain. Hope it did.

LuckyCharms

(17,149 posts)
53. If you ever are in so much pain that you have no choice but to take one,
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:29 PM
Nov 2022

try cutting one tab into quarters, or even eighths. It might be enough to take the edge off the pain, while reducing unwanted side effects.

Oxy's are pretty much a no for me. I have to be pretty bad off to take one, or a portion of one tab.

Hydrocodone might be better for you in terms of side effects, but maybe not. I think everyone is different when it comes to opiates.

I agree with you that sometimes, you're best option is to stick with plain Tylenol and try to ride out the pain.

I'm sorry you are in pain, and I wish you the best for a smooth recovery!

LeftInTX

(24,248 posts)
62. Is oxy controlled release???
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:19 AM
Nov 2022

I would be concerned about cutting a controlled release tablet.

I agree, when I had knee surgery, they gave me some type of codeine or synthetic codeine, such as hydrocodone (It worked, even though I already take a small amt of Tyl #3 daily) Whatever the surgeon gave me, it was not what I took daily, because I requested something different. But, it was a run of the mill pain med combined with tyl etc.

Just looked it up: Oxycodone tablets are control released. Do not cut control release tablets. It can cause OD

LuckyCharms

(17,149 posts)
65. I don't know if they make a controlled released Oxy. The ones that I
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:28 AM
Nov 2022

received were not controlled release, they were just plain tablets. I was prescribed Oxy at a time when my back pain was crippling, rendering me unable to walk, even with a walker.

I had never taken Oxy before, only hydrocodone which are not as powerful as Oxy.

When I received the prescription, I was counselled by my pharmacist. I have a good relationship with her, and she spoke to me honestly.

Her words were something to the effect of:

"I know by your records that you have never taken these before. Listen to me closely. These tablets can mess you up. I want you to take as little as possible. Cut them in half, or into quarters. Start with that, and see how you react to the drug. You're either going to feel very good or very bad when you take this drug. It will take care of your pain, but try to adjust your dose to where it takes the edge off the pain only. Better to feel a little pain than to deal with the side effects of this drug".

LuckyCharms

(17,149 posts)
68. Edit to the above:
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:33 AM
Nov 2022

In regard to your edit, look further down in your search results. It appears that they make both regular release and extended release Oxy. Extended release tabs are usually labeled XR or ER.

The type prescribed to me were not extended release.

LeftInTX

(24,248 posts)
69. Everything says tablets are control released.
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:35 AM
Nov 2022

Oxycodone = oxycontin = control release. The control release thing was how it got so many people addicted. That's how I know about it.

Oxycodone comes as:

capsules – these contain 5mg, 10mg or 20mg of oxycodone
slow-release tablets – these contain 5mg, 10mg, 15mg, 20mg, 30mg, 40mg, 60mg, 80mg or 120mg of oxycodone
liquid – this contains 5mg of oxycodone in 5ml or 10mg of oxycodone in 1ml of liquid.
https://www.nhs.uk/medicines/oxycodone/


https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2020-06/Oxycodone-2020_0.pdf

LuckyCharms

(17,149 posts)
70. There are two different versions of this drug.
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:50 AM
Nov 2022

1) Immediate release oxycodone.

2) OxyContin, which is extended release oxycodone.

I received the immediate release version, not the brand name OxyContin, which is extended release.

See the table in the below link, which shows that the immediate release version can be cut, as recommended by my pharmacist.

https://www.healthline.com/health/pain-relief/oxycodone-vs-oxycontin

LeftInTX

(24,248 posts)
71. Oh..OK..thx...yes..just cut the things if they are not extended release!
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:54 AM
Nov 2022

I can't quite figure out why they are sending everyone home on this, but yes I would cut the darn things...

LuckyCharms

(17,149 posts)
73. It's very confusing...
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:59 AM
Nov 2022

You had me wondering there for a moment if my pharmacist gave me bad advice.

I had to dig relatively deeply into the Google search results to verify that my particular brand of oxy could indeed be cut!

I appreciate you calling attention to the fact that extended release pills should not be cut!

Skittles

(152,870 posts)
55. people react to medication in different ways
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:46 PM
Nov 2022

I was prescribed Vicodin and it made me very sick indeed....I thought the same thing, people get addicted to this? Obviously they have a completely different reaction to that medicine....

LeftInTX

(24,248 posts)
63. You seem to have a strong reaction...
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:23 AM
Nov 2022

Most people can tolerate moderate amts of Vicodin with the main side effect of constipation and dizziness etc. I think nausea and vomiting at low doses is rare.

csziggy

(34,113 posts)
57. Opioids don't relieve the pain for me - they just make me stupid
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 01:33 AM
Nov 2022

I found that cold packs helped MUCH better than any pain medication after my knee replacements. The best cold packs for me were the home made ones: 3 parts water to 1 part rubbing alcohol (3 cups /1 cup in a gallon Ziplock, double bagged). lay flat to freeze. The mixture will stay flexible so you can wrap it around the joint. And it stay cold longer than most commercial cold packs. Be sure to put a towel between your skin and the cold packs.

Aristus

(65,780 posts)
64. If you try hard enough, you can get addicted to almost anything.
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:28 AM
Nov 2022

Every single day in clinic, I try to preserve and improve the health of patients who smoke. I still can’t understand why people still smoke.

First of all, everyone knows how unhealthy it is. It’s not like the 1950’s where a doctor comes out of the exam room and lights up. “After a long, hard day of clinic, I like to relax with Camel cigarettes. Twenty-one great tobaccos make twenty great smokes!”

I tried smoking a couple of times. It was so unpleasant, I quit right away, wondering how anyone could smoke long enough to become addicted to nicotine.

So I guess if someone puts their shoulder into it, they could become addicted to oxycodone.

LeftInTX

(24,248 posts)
72. I was a cigarette flunky...I smoked off and on for about five years...
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:59 AM
Nov 2022

I always got bronchitis when I smoked.

I can compare smoking to video games. It has the same type of effect on the nervous system. A slight stimulant, but I could never figure out if it was from smoking itself, nerves or nicotine.

RobinA

(9,851 posts)
76. Pick Your Poison
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:27 PM
Nov 2022

People smoke because it feels good. Your brain likes it so it tells you that you have to have it. I'm an ex-smoker. Got addicted real fast. Now, me, I don't get alcohol. I HATE alcohol. Hate the way it makes me feel, hate the taste. As evidenced by these threads, some people don't like opiates. I could be an opiate addict if I wasn't careful. Very nice. Alcohol? Not a chance. Speed? Horrible.

Aristus

(65,780 posts)
77. It didn't feel good to me.
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:32 PM
Nov 2022

I just kept spitting and coughing as I ground out, like, my fifth cigarette, asking myself over and over: "People PAY to do this?"

Luciferous

(6,043 posts)
78. I've never taken Oxy, but every time
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:52 PM
Nov 2022

I've been prescribed painkillers they have made me nauseous so I try not to use them.

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