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You wont find fettuccine or macaroni on this list.https://www.thrillist.com/eat/nation/best-pasta-shapes-according-to-italian-chefs
Glazed shortribs with lumache pasta. | Courtesy of North Italia
When it comes to pasta, I mostly love it all. Sheets of lasagna stacked high, the way peas can nestle perfectly in orecchiette, the heft of tagliatelle. I would be lying, however, if I said I didnt have a favorite. I am a lover of cavatappiperfect corkscrews that can stand up to a meaty sauce or bathe luxuriously in buttery cream. My colleagues have differing opinions as to what constitutes the best, however. We debated the merits of wavy tangles of mafaldine versus the irresistible curve of creste di gallo, which resembles a roosters comb. For long pasta, is spaghetti, bucatini, or linguine preferred? (There will be no mention of angel hair, becauseto meits thin strands are quite possibly the worst pasta shape.) To settle any debate, Ive decided to ask pasta professionalsItalians and Italian Americans in the food industryto share what their favorite pasta shapes are. They wax poetic about what sauces to pair with their favorites and why the shapes are so special. And if you werent already buying lumache, this is a sign to start. Heres what our experts had to say.
Chris Curtiss
Brand Chef, North Italia
Favorite pasta shape: Tonnarelli
What sauce does it go best with: Tomato-based sauces
Why its the best: I really love tonnarelli, which mimics the classic spaghetti alla chitarra that is well known in the Abruzzo region of Italy. Tonnarelli differs from traditional spaghetti because of its squared cross-section, whereas spaghetti is round. This pairs perfectly with a tomato-based sauce because of its robust mouthfeel, plus its easy to eat. At North, for our new fall menu that well release later this month, weve chosen to elevate this pasta shape even further by creating a squid ink version. The pasta dough is created fresh daily using squid ink, then extruded and paired with a spicy bomba tomato sauce and vermouth to highlight the variety of seafood included in the dish such as calamari and tiger shrimp. For those at home, my advice for venturing out into using tonnarelli would be to try swapping it out for spaghetti in recipes you already have. Youd be surprised how drastically a dish can change by updating the style of noodle youre using.
Benjamin Dodaro
Executive Chef, Patina Restaurant Group
Favorite pasta shape: Mafalde
What sauce does it go best with: Hearty ragu or cacio e pepe
Why its the best: Mafalde is an extremely versatile pasta, which is why its one of the best to have in your pantry. I personally like to describe it as if a wavy lasagna and fettuccine had a baby, they would make mafalde. We make a homemade mafalde verde with sweet Italian sausage, fennel, onions, white wine, Calabrian chili and finished off with extra virgin olive oil and pecorino romano. This dish is always a guest favorite when its on the menu.
Michele Mazza
Chef, Il Mulino New York
Favorite pasta shape: Bucatini
What sauce does it go best with: Amatriciana sauce
Why its the best: Bucatini is unique as it is a long noodle with a hole in the middle, when mixed with amatriciana sauce the sauce becomes a part of the pasta. Its like a love affair. People should try it as the bucatini can be cut or broken and shaped to different sizes for use in different dishes such as soup or with Parmigiano Reggiano. I love it because if I cook too much, the next day for breakfast I can mix it with eggs, mozzarella and Parmigiano Reggiano cheese to make a frittata.
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TheBlackAdder
(28,277 posts).
Certain sections will get softer than others, or it will go from a viable cooked piece to mushy in seconds.
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True Dough
(17,431 posts)are all in my mouth!!
YoshidaYui
(41,878 posts)Its not included? A good Chow mein is hard to beat, or how about a soup dumpling!!
Celerity
(43,918 posts)https://www.todayonline.com/world/did-pasta-come-china-absolutely-not-historians-say
HONG KONG Pasta is Italys staple food, but its not only Italians who indulge in platefuls of the doughy concoction every day. People all over the world adore it. It comes in more than 300 shapes: long, as in spaghetti; flat, as in fettuccine; hollow (bucatini); short, as in penne; the butterfly-shaped farfalle and ear-shaped orecchiette; tubular (rigatoni); and stuffed, in varieties such as tortellini and ravioli. It can be bought dry or freshly made from egg-based dough. World Pasta Day, held each October, celebrates the universal love of this staple of the Mediterranean diet.
But who invented pasta? Legend has it that spaghetti is descended from noodles, based on the premise that Venetian nobleman and merchant Marco Polo imported long, worm-like strands of the latter to Italy from China in the late 13th century. To many, though, the Chinese origins of Italian pasta are a myth. It is true that Marco Polo did spend several years in China, learning the countrys traditions and culture, and he may have brought Chinese noodles and other foods back from his journeys. But Italian food historians say pasta culture was already flourishing in the Mediterranean region centuries before he travelled east, among the ancient Greeks and later among the Romans.
Noodles are one thing, pasta another food altogether, says Ms Anna Maria Pellegrino, a food historian and a member of the Italian Academy of Cuisine. They reflect two separate culinary cultures and identities that have developed in parallel, the only conjunction being the need for nourishment and, above all, to share around the same table feelings and everyday life events. The way they are cooked, the pots, the types of cereals used, the preparation, ingredients and toppings are completely different and specific to each civilisation. Theres no direct link between the Asian and the Italian or Mediterranean ways of mixing cereals with water to create noodles or pasta, she says.
Ms Pellegrino adds: Ever since the birth of agriculture, man has learned to hone crop techniques and shape these to his needs, thus mixing grains with water was an automatic step which happened across all civilisations at some given point in time, probably simultaneously, Historical texts and works by classical poets help to date the first type of primeval pasta to the time of the ancient Greeks. Mr Giorgio Franchetti, a food historian and scholar of ancient Roman history, is the author of a book, Dining With the Ancient Romans, which was recently translated into English. He roundly dismisses the Marco Polo theory about the origins of pasta. Its pure nonsense, he says. The noodles that Marco Polo maybe brought back with him at the end of the 1200s from China were essentially made with rice and based on a different, oriental culinary tradition that has nothing to do with ours.
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YoshidaYui
(41,878 posts)Longer than Italian culture where they found ancient containers were found with pasta hunreds of years old!
Celerity
(43,918 posts)ahistorical revisionism with you.
I provided sufficient evidence to rebut your claim, to which you have responded with vulgarity and logical fallacies.
You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
YoshidaYui
(41,878 posts)The 500 year dynasty is nothing compared to the 4000 year dynasty of China. China has been around longer than any civilization on this planet.Thats a fact look it up.
Javaman
(62,542 posts)YoshidaYui
(41,878 posts)An archaeologist in China found ancient pots with pasta inside.
Celerity
(43,918 posts)addressed. The oldest known Chinese noodles where made from millet, and later on rice, and came from an entirely different culinary tradition from which pasta (which has historically been made with wheat) came from.
I never claimed claimed that all types of noodles came from the Mediterranean. My OP was about a regionally specific foodtype.
Orrex
(63,317 posts)QED
YoshidaYui
(41,878 posts)I never said that.
Orrex
(63,317 posts)But the logic is about the same. The fact that one thing predates a second geometrically similar thing doesn't mean that the first caused the second if their basic composition is different, even if the first comes from a much longer-lived culture.
I think that's the point that Celerity is making.
This is a weird hill to die on. On top of spaghetti, as it were.
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Celerity
(43,918 posts)invented the Chinese and everyone else (and thus all other things all humans ever did), if we take the poster's logic to extreme degrees of human developmental historical current knowledge.
Orrex
(63,317 posts)Celerity
(43,918 posts)Javaman
(62,542 posts)Question: How do you make an apple pie from scratch?
Answer: first you create the universe.
YoshidaYui
(41,878 posts)Made noodles long before spaghetti was invented.
Celerity
(43,918 posts)is a newer (only 1,500 years or so old in its proto-form, from what I can find) form of pasta.
Around 3,000 years ago, between 1000 BC and 800 BC, the Greeks first mentioned the existence of laganon, a flat pasta sheet sliced into irregular strips that was later adopted by the ancient Romans with the plural name of laganae.
Human history is full of parallel yet discrete developments.
YoshidaYui
(41,878 posts)N/t.
Celerity
(43,918 posts)etc etc
YoshidaYui
(41,878 posts)YoshidaYui
(41,878 posts)japple
(9,863 posts)Is one I stumbled on somewhere and it has become a family favorite. It's easy and uses up a lot of zucchini!
https://12tomatoes.com/kingsolver-zucchini-orzo/
Barbara Kingsolver's Disappearing Zucchini Orzo
Ingredients
1 lb orzo pasta
3 tablespoons olive oil
1 white or yellow onion, chopped
2 cloves garlic, minced
3 large zucchini, grated
2 teaspoons fresh thyme
1 teaspoon fresh oregano, minced
1/4 cup Parmesan cheese, freshly grated
Kosher salt and freshly ground black pepper, to taste
Preparation
Bring 6 cups of water to a boil in a large pot. Add salt and orzo and cook until just tender, 8-10 minutes.
In a large skillet, heat olive oil over medium-high heat. Add onion, garlic, and zucchini and sauté until lightly golden.
Add thyme and oregano and remove from heat.
In a large bowl, toss together the orzo, zucchini mixture, and cheese and season to taste with salt and pepper. Serve chilled or room temperature. Enjoy!
Recipe from Animal Vegetable Miracle.
You didn't ask for recipes, but I've been passing this one out ever since I found it. I think even kids would love it.
3Hotdogs
(12,505 posts)Cappolini for me. My ex likes linguine but she chops the fukkin thing in half to eat it. What da fuck?
COL Mustard
(6,021 posts)I'm as WASP as anybody but I loves me some good bolognese sauce with bucatini. And don't ever tell my Italian-American (full-blooded) wife that you cut it in half! Ay caramba!!!
I think I'll duck now, just in case your ex wants to throw something at me!!!
tblue37
(65,590 posts)COL Mustard
(6,021 posts)To only put parmesan or romano cheese on pasta! Velveeta didn't cut it!!!
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)She broke her long pasta in half, because that's how her mamma did it. And mamma learned it from her mamma.
And your Italian heritage is...?
3Hotdogs
(12,505 posts)You should'a seen the look on my parents face, first time over the house for spaghetti.... she cuts it in half.
True Blue American
(18,001 posts)and Rotini. I use one for Spaghetti with Sweet Basil sauce.
Rotini for Salads.
3Hotdogs
(12,505 posts)I will also burn bacon or pork, chop it up and throw it in.
True Blue American
(18,001 posts)To using a sweet Basil Marinara sauce as my back ground, then adding what ever suits me at the time for ANGEL hair.
MiHale
(9,835 posts)You have set the planning and dining for the day or days ahead. My dear wife has been hinting as the cooler weather has now been coming that an all day sauce simmering would be delightful. The tomatoes are fresh from the vine waiting for their reincarnation. Madam Basil and her minions, oregano, thyme and parsley quake in anticipation for the union of flavors to come and I must get busy.
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True Blue American
(18,001 posts)With what kind of Pasta?
MiHale
(9,835 posts)Its a setting on the pasta roller. Easier than hand forming some other kind.
I know according to the article..da.da.da. Love bucatini or pasta sheets.
WhiteTara
(29,740 posts)It was almost like I was in the room as you were selecting the ingredients.
BigmanPigman
(51,717 posts)but it turns out they crack very easily when shipped.
I always save a little pasta water to mix into the sauce and don't run cold water over it if you want any of your sauce to really stick to it and not the bowl.
I still love good old fashioned egg noodles or pastina with butter a lot too.
True Blue American
(18,001 posts)Last edited Tue Oct 11, 2022, 04:56 AM - Edit history (1)
The tried and true. I do not care for all those shapes.
Ninga
(8,283 posts)second best, rolled and cut by a crank pasta maker. When pasta is extruded, the chemistry changes dramatically and thus the taste.
I make homemade pasta most of the time using my 57 yr old hand crank pasta maker, including sheets of pasta for lasagna. Mangia pasta! Bella pasta!
Javaman
(62,542 posts)I have been on DU long enough to witness some truly hilarious threads.
And this one is becoming a classic.
right up there with old "bombing of the moon" thread. LOL
Celerity
(43,918 posts)in terms of logical agument, and specificities of definitions. I also push back when I see factually problematic positings.
Combine those things and you get that mini thread.
The real irony in this case is that I am part Chinese, along with black (west African descent, as that is the main area where slaves who were shipped into Bim, aka Barbados, were from), Swedish (half or so, my father is Swedish, mummy is Bajan aka Barbadian, very much racially/ethnicall diverse), Scottish, English, Lebanese, East Indian, and Sephardic Jewish (via Portuguese descent). I am, on my mum's side, a typical West Indian hodgepodge/melange. No Italian in my background that I know of, although my father did date a Venetian girl whilst reading for one of his uni degrees, his last gf before he met mummy.
Danascot
(4,703 posts)I'm no expert in pasta but I was pretty happy with it. I felt it met the criteria the inventor established for it.
https://pasta.com/cascatelli-the-new-pasta-shape-thats-gone-viral/
skimmed the thread before I posted but missed you. they are pretty darn good aren't they?
Auggie
(31,263 posts)Fresh sheets of pasta in a lasagna become a gooey delicious wonder. IMO it soaks up marinara and bolognese sauces better too.
usonian
(10,073 posts)Full-Blooded-Italian, that is.
Favorites are mafaldine and fusilli bucati lunghi (the long ones)
Homemade pastas rock! Whatever the Atlas will kick out is great, unless you are the one who has to clean up afterward.
But homemade cavatelli are the best, and I used to make them as a kid, with the old cast-iron cavatelli machine.
This is newer.
And for everyone else, there's Rigatoni, Mostaccioli or Spaghet'
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)My favorite before that was bronze-cut trecce, which is sort of like a big version of gemelli or cavatappi. Traps sauces really well:
Nowadays, I'm grateful for whatever pasta I can get that's low carb.
IcyPeas
(21,966 posts)I like the Dececco brand.
AwakeAtLast
(14,136 posts)If you cook it perfectly, and only add olive oil, salt, fresh ground pepper, garlic, and crushed red pepper it is absolutely delightful!
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