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hay rick

(7,613 posts)
Mon May 16, 2022, 08:17 PM May 2022

Today's bumper sticker.

Today's bumper sticker wasn't really a bumper sticker- it was silver letters above the silver SILVERADO on the back of a new black pickup. The message: FUCK OFF. There was no other bumper sticker or message adorning the back of the truck to provide context. Not the usual Let's Go Brandon or FU46. Just FUCK OFF addressed to anybody and everybody.

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Today's bumper sticker. (Original Post) hay rick May 2022 OP
If you could photo that with your cell Haggis 4 Breakfast May 2022 #1
You might want to read Cohen v California, rsdsharp May 2022 #2
So, I could write Haggis 4 Breakfast May 2022 #4
I suppose some dumbass cop could arrest you, but not legally. rsdsharp May 2022 #5
Yeah, I think running around with a T-shirt that says "F the Police" Haggis 4 Breakfast May 2022 #6
Ask the police. The guy walked on the charge, rsdsharp May 2022 #7
I find Let's Go Brandon much more offensive. hay rick May 2022 #3

Haggis 4 Breakfast

(1,454 posts)
1. If you could photo that with your cell
Mon May 16, 2022, 08:42 PM
May 2022

and send it to your State Highway Patrol, along with the license plate, you can report people driving around with obscene material in plain view. I recently did just that with a really offensive flag I saw. I mean, children see this garbage and they shouldn't have to. There was a time when public obscenity was a punishable offense.

rsdsharp

(9,177 posts)
2. You might want to read Cohen v California,
Mon May 16, 2022, 09:56 PM
May 2022

403 US 15 (1971). It violates First Amendment free speech rights to criminalize profane words in public.

Haggis 4 Breakfast

(1,454 posts)
4. So, I could write
Mon May 16, 2022, 10:39 PM
May 2022

"F**K THAT C**T TRUMP UP THE ASS WITH A PINEAPPLE AND A PORCUPINE" on my car and not get arrested ??

rsdsharp

(9,177 posts)
5. I suppose some dumbass cop could arrest you, but not legally.
Mon May 16, 2022, 11:34 PM
May 2022

You could probably get the charge dismissed, and the cops would likely lose their qualified immunity if you sued for violation of your rights.

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The point of the First Amendment is to protect unpopular speech. In Cohen that speech was “Fuck the Draft” on a jacket Cohen was wearing in a California courthouse. In the above video it was “Fuck the Police” on a T shirt at a county fair.
There are exceptions for “fighting words”, but the courts are particularly sensitive about protecting political speech, which is what is at issue in your example.

Haggis 4 Breakfast

(1,454 posts)
6. Yeah, I think running around with a T-shirt that says "F the Police"
Mon May 16, 2022, 11:42 PM
May 2022

might not be the smartest tactical maneuver in these times.

rsdsharp

(9,177 posts)
7. Ask the police. The guy walked on the charge,
Mon May 16, 2022, 11:48 PM
May 2022

and the 6th Circuit absolutely torched them for the unconstitutional arrest.

The cops looooove to talk about “these times,” and “in this day and age,” as if that constitutes an exception to civil rights.

hay rick

(7,613 posts)
3. I find Let's Go Brandon much more offensive.
Mon May 16, 2022, 10:27 PM
May 2022

I hope we are not a becoming a society in which casual public obscenities are more objectionable than public expressions of hatred.

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