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Samrob

(4,298 posts)
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 03:44 PM Feb 2022

OMG! Just sunned!

Binging Netflix "Occupied" I am just stunned how this is so similar to Putin's current play on Ukraine. The country in this story is Norway but it could easily be Ukraine. A must see for history and conspiracy buffs.

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OMG! Just sunned! (Original Post) Samrob Feb 2022 OP
Holodomor RandySF Feb 2022 #1
Just sunned? Hope you used sunscreen! :) chia Feb 2022 #2
GMTA. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2022 #4
Did you wear sunscreen? n/t rzemanfl Feb 2022 #3
Yes... yes they do... chia Feb 2022 #6
Watched it a while ago. Excellent series. Amazed at how easily the Norwegians Fla Dem Feb 2022 #5
"Occupied" is one of the best tv series on Netflix. Ocelot II Feb 2022 #7
It's already happening here. Anon-C Feb 2022 #8
Been cloudy all day here Effete Snob Feb 2022 #9

RandySF

(56,123 posts)
1. Holodomor
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 03:49 PM
Feb 2022

At the height of the 1932-33 Ukrainian famine under Joseph Stalin, starving people roamed the countryside, desperate for something, anything to eat. In the village of Stavyshche, a young peasant boy watched as the wanderers dug into empty gardens with their bare hands. Many were so emaciated, he recalled, that their bodies began to swell and stink from the extreme lack of nutrients.

"You could see them walking about, just walking and walking, and one would drop, and then another, and so on it went," he said many years later, in a case history collected in the late 1980s by a Congressional commission. In the cemetery outside the village hospital, overwhelmed doctors carried the bodies on stretchers and tossed them into an enormous pit.

The Ukrainian famine—known as the Holodomor, a combination of the Ukrainian words for “starvation” and “to inflict death”—by one estimate claimed the lives of 3.9 million people, about 13 percent of the population. And, unlike other famines in history caused by blight or drought, this was caused when a dictator wanted both to replace Ukraine’s small farms with state-run collectives and punish independence-minded Ukrainians who posed a threat to his totalitarian authority.

“The Ukrainian famine was a clear case of a man-made famine,” explains Alex de Waal, executive director of the World Peace Foundation at Tufts University and author of the 2018 book, Mass Starvation: The History and Future of Famine. He describes it as “a hybrid…of a famine caused by calamitous social-economic policies and one aimed at a particular population for repression or punishment.”





https://www.history.com/news/ukrainian-famine-stalin

chia

(2,235 posts)
2. Just sunned? Hope you used sunscreen! :)
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 03:50 PM
Feb 2022

Just kidding, your accidental title gave me a chuckle.

However - I did watch Occupied a while back, and it was indeed extraordinary. I highly recommend.

Fla Dem

(23,140 posts)
5. Watched it a while ago. Excellent series. Amazed at how easily the Norwegians
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 04:04 PM
Feb 2022

were compromised by the Russian operatives. And yes very similar to our current situation except the Russian operatives aren't in our country, (actually there might be some working undercover).

Ocelot II

(114,508 posts)
7. "Occupied" is one of the best tv series on Netflix.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 04:09 PM
Feb 2022

There's all sorts of moral ambiguity, political skullduggery, and sneaky evil Russians who are good at co-opting people by holding out rewards and threats. There are freedom fighters, or terrorists, depending on one's point of view, good people doing bad things and bad people doing good things. Very thoughtful, twisty stuff.

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