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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsIf you are married, do you refer to your partner as wife/husband, or spouse?
Spouse, of course, is a gender neutral, but it is also control neutral.
Husband and wife are not interchangeable terms in English and in many other languages.
Here it is from Wikipedia:
Also compare the similar husbandry,[3] which in the 14th century referred to the care of the household, but today means the "control or judicious use of resources", conservation, and in agriculture, the cultivation of plants and animals, and the science about its profession.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Husband
The movie "The Wife" clearly puts the wife as a secondary partner.
Something to think about.
Canoe52
(2,949 posts)Glamrock
(11,803 posts)And she's secondary to nothing or no one.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,930 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(3,513 posts)I dont control her nor is she in any way demeaned or diminshed by the title.
This is the kind of bullshit that makes people hate us.
OnDoutside
(19,987 posts)question everything
(47,599 posts)Why did you reply this way?
I was pointing that this word "husband" is used in more ways, controlling, managing. The word "wife" is used only in one way.
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)She is an intelligent, independent, strong woman and would laugh at the claim that the term wife diminishes her in anyway, regardless of what any centuries old definitions say.
Chemisse
(30,824 posts)I think it's more important to actually be on an equal footing with your spouse than to use a term that implies equality in the relationship.
patricia92243
(12,607 posts)FSogol
(45,595 posts)Just kidding, usually "wife."
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)For all the reasons already mentioned in here. Partner sounds clinical or too businesslike.
I don't care anymore that it upsets the perpetually-offended.
Tobin S.
(10,418 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,427 posts)And there is nothing secondary about her role in our marriage.
Kali
(55,032 posts)and since it is a common one I use a slightly different inflection in my voice to clue the listener as to which specific person with that name. here in written form he is usually "the husband."
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Never take anything for granted I always say, but sometimes mi esposa doesn't see it that way and I'm referred to as the future ex-husband.
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)the second I married her, she wasnt my girlfriend anymore.
Now, she really is my ex-wife. Were doing the divorce thing after nearly 14 years of marriage.
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)Around 2004-2007, when I was still in the army, dont ask dont tell was still very much the policy. I used to refer to my wife as my life partner and itd throw everyone off.
Harker
(14,138 posts)My second wife and I are not married.
None of us ever saw the movie.
Aristus
(66,530 posts)I know: how bourgeoise.
Still: wife...
csziggy
(34,140 posts)And I rip into anyone that calls me Mrs. "csziggy's husband." I am not a "Mrs." - I am a Ms. I have never used his surname or a derivation of his name on any document ever.
When family sends out invitations to Mr. & Mrs. "csziggy's husband" I consider that I was not invited since they did not use any form of my name. That also means for weddings, graduations, and baby showers I do not buy gifts since I was not invited.
question everything
(47,599 posts)Even before her wedding there were indications that Elizabeth Cady Stanton had a vision of marriage that would differ from the cultural norm. She convinced her fiance, Henry Stanton, to omit the word "obey" from their wedding vow. She also insisted that she be known as Elizabeth Cady Stanton, not Mrs. Henry Stanton.
I cannot find it now, but she had a letter objecting to be called "Henry," comparing such custom to slaves being given their masters' names.
akraven
(1,975 posts)I call him lover.
Buckeyeblue
(5,505 posts)If noticed that sometimes when people start with my husband or my wife, a complaint follows.
jamesalex
(4 posts)wife are not interchangeable terms in English and in many other languages.
DFW
(54,506 posts)We just use the traditional German terms (Mann & Frau). We both are quite secure in our roles, and don't feel diminished by traditional language any more than we would feel bolstered by forced political correctness.
dameatball
(7,411 posts)question everything
(47,599 posts)But this, too, shall pass.
dameatball
(7,411 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Depends upon what I want to convey. In this day of single gender marriages, I often use spouse to not create a distinction.
apcalc
(4,465 posts)Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)She uses my first name. This is her 5th and my 3rd, but my first 2 died.
Moostache
(9,897 posts)I call her by her name!
If I said "wife, come hither..." I would get slapped upside the head! (actually, the 'come hither' part would probably still get me a righteously earned swat or very dirty look of disapproval!)
Using gender neutral terminology is pointless unless gender identity is central to you personally...for us, as a married couple, it's not a thing to consider or be worried about...I don't care if other people want to worry about it, but I kind of lose respect for their position the moment they demand others play by their rules too in a universal manner.
I approach it the same way I do religion or my penis...it can be great to have one, even OK to be proud of it and fantastic when shared, in private, with consenting adults...but the second you whip one of them out in public discourse, or around children, you need to stop and rethink yourself and your actions in the first place!
Runningdawg
(4,533 posts)use the other definitions interchangeably but I often call him My Old Man in jest because he's 20 years younger.
Croney
(4,682 posts)"I now pronounce you man and wife" instead of husband and wife, I remember how things used to be, when a wife was a possession. Now we have all variations, and people are being called what they want to be called, and are free to be themselves...
Well, maybe when we get rid of the orange turd.
We call ourselves husband and wife mostly, but I've always been a Ms. and not a Mrs.