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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsI'm watching The Dark Knight for just the second time. I still dont get why it's so great.
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I saw it shortly after it first came out and everyone was calling it a classic and heralding it as a great movie.
I remember feeling let down by the hype.
Watching it again and honestly I still dont get its appeal.
Its overly dramatic and overacted and the characters are one dimensional and boring.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,259 posts)And to be fair, his performance was the best of the entire movies. But it wasnt enough to save it from the overall mediocrity.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)bearsfootball516
(6,378 posts)Heath Ledger's acting was the only thing that saved it. He was absolutely outstanding.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)skypilot
(8,860 posts)...I've ever read a post like this on DU about The Dark Knight. Everyone was praising this movie when it came out. I was so excited about seeing it that I badgered a friend to go see it with me because if it was as awesome as everyone was saying it was then I didn't want to just see it by myself.
I loathed the movie.
I was actually embarrassed when it was over because my friend hadn't really wanted to see the movie all that much and now I was wondering what he must think of me for dragging him out to see this nonsense. I didn't like one minute of it. And what was with that stupid voice Christian Bale used as Batman? Someone did a parody video on Youtube making fun of the voice. I hadn't seen the movie yet and at the time I just rolled my eyes and chalked it up to someone trolling and being a contrarian by bashing such an acclaimed movie. Then I saw the movie and I'll be damned if Batman didn't sound exactly like the guy in the Youtube video. I couldn't take the movie seriously after that. Actually, there were lots of reasons that I couldn't take it seriously but the voice bugged the shit out of me.
FSogol
(45,681 posts)Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)I've been a Batman fan my whole, but fuck that movie and every other Bat flick that's been made since. They just get worse and worse.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Actually, two more words. Frank Miller. Dark Knight Returns. For comic book fans, this was an important moment in the history of the Bats. Miller took the dark and turned it even darker. So, the title Dark Knight was a salute to fans of the dark side of Batman. And there are a whole lot of Batman fans who like their man dark and ugly.
If you do not answer the question "Marvel or DC" with an immediate, unequivocal "DC" then let the film pass. If you do not answer the question with "DC" because of Batman (i.e. you are hooked on Superman) let the film pass.
Batman is THE sick and twisted caped crusader upon whom all the others (including each and every male character and possibly even the women in The Watchman) is based. The Dark Knight is part of an unfolding series about the difficulty in transitioning from dualism to nondualism, something the west must do if we are going to survive. To appreciate it, you must also read the comics. Grant Morrison's run is especially important to understanding the present Batman.
Here's hoping they do a film version of Metal.
Oh, and I loved Suicide Squad. Saw it four times in the theater. Took my 6 year old grandson twice. He loved it. He described it as love story about "The Joker and his girlfriend." The critics who panned it obviously do not understand the needs and wishes of young America. Kids are sick of being perfect. They want to be bad. They want to be appreciated for being bad. They want to be loved for who they are. Harley Quinn is the patron saint of all oppressed white girls who are forced to choose "Will I be anorexic or will I be me?"
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)He used to be "The Dark Night Detective", on par with Sherlock Holmes. But now he's just a garden variety vigilante with lots of high-tech toys.
I blame today's comics in general, which are written by, for, and about low-attention-span morons.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)FSogol
(45,681 posts)I don't get it either. Average superhero movie, imo.
Aristus
(66,767 posts)I practically fell asleep during 'The Dark Knight Returns', and shrugged when it was over.
'The Dark Knight' is overrated; I only rewatch it for Heath Ledger's performance.
jmowreader
(50,682 posts)The only exception among the major players is Jim Gordon, the "one good cop in a bad town." The only other person in the whole company with even the slightest glimmer of non-assholism is the big criminal who threw the detonator into the river.
Everyone else? Assholes. Fox is the least assholish, but he's still one.
Besides, the producers of that thing missed three things about what Gotham is not: it is not clean, it is not modern and it is not Chicago. Watch the first Michael Keaton Batman film. Gotham is SUPPOSED to be a shithole, and it's supposed to be New York.
I have all seven Batman movies on Blu-Ray, and I sat down with a six-pack and a pizza and watched them all one night. I like the four pre-Nolan films better than the Nolan ones; the pre-Nolans are movies based on comics, and the Nolans are filmed comic books. There's a difference.
"Batman" is the best. The one villain was excellent, the whole Batman backstory worked, and the leading lady was cute. Hard to beat that package. I also liked that the city had overtly allied itself with Batman at the end.
"Batman Returns" is the second-best. Come on. You KNOW you liked Danny DeVito's Penguin.
I liked "Batman and Robin" much better than "Batman Forever." Unfortunately, most of the show needed to be left on the cutting room floor - everything not involving Mr. Freeze, who I liked. A movie with a really intense focus on that villain, and without the Poison Ivy, telescope, Bane, Batgirl and Dying Albert subplots, could have been a LOT of fun.
I wasn't a big fan of "Batman Forever," and Val Kilmer is why; he's no fun at all. OTOH, the villains in this one were great.
Of the three Nolans, "The Dark Knight" is the best but it's not great.
I didn't think much of "Batman Begins." Hollywood up and wore out the "you must go to China to seek wisdom, my son" trope decades before this movie was made.
And I really hated "The Dark Knight Rises." It felt like a remake of "The Aviator," with Christian Bale instead of Leonardo DiCaprio in the lead role.