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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsIs this a special effect or are MAGNETS FREAKING AWESOME?????
I love these magnets and just this weekend I saw the clip posted below linked in a "Make Magazine" article.
A Neodymium Magnet dropping through a thick-wall copper tube falls VERY SLOWLY.... So I got some pipe and have been amazing everyone at school!!!
Actually, I am looking for a thicker copper tube like what is used in this demonstration. Observe:
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Graybeard
(6,996 posts).
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siligut
(12,272 posts)At least that is the only reason I can imagine.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)A moving magnet creates electrical "eddy" currents in the copper. Those eddy currents then create an electromagnetic field opposite to the original magnetic field.
siligut
(12,272 posts)So gravity makes the magnet move and it is the movement that causes the reaction? That is so cool, thank you for explaining it so neatly and clearly.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)...which actually REPELS the magnet; slows it's passage down.
It's really paradoxical, and COOL!
caraher
(6,279 posts)Essentially, the eddy currents induced in the copper create a magnetic field directed opposite that of the falling magnet. I use a really long tube demonstrating this in classes.
Here's a really remarkable demonstration of the same basic effect (this time with a stationary magnet):
Yeah, it still seems like magic even when you know the physics!
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)jonthebru
(1,034 posts)Perforated pendulum
freshwest
(53,661 posts)We're all electric beings of light, or something like it.
eppur_se_muova
(36,307 posts)Suich
(10,642 posts)chollybocker
(3,687 posts)Theme parks should make rides outta this stuff.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)Also high speed trains make use of it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_eddy_current_brake#Linear_eddy_current_brake
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)Maybe when they are light and have a hole
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)It is slightly less effective with the black rare earth magnets, but seems to work best with plated neodymium.
Thickness of the copper, however, is everything here.
Even a loose fitting 3/4" within a 1" schedule L Home Depot fit is slower than the 3/"4 inch alone, so I can't wait to get some heavy 1/4" wall tube, or thicker.
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)increases.
Still, I haver never seen a neodymium magnet.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)In stacking magnets, beyond a height of about 1.5 x diameter the effect diminishes.
Also, I've used square and rectangular shape magnets, too.
I imagine an ideal magnet would be hollow core and 1.5 x diameter in height.
Wall thickness is where I get a lot of improvement.
northoftheborder
(7,575 posts)intaglio
(8,170 posts)The guy spins it, just a flick of the fingers but a spin nevertheless ...
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Dig the pic, too, of the alien guy. He trips me out.