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House of Cards Reviewed (Original Post) Britethorn Feb 2013 OP
Just finished watching episode #7. I'm addicted. Tx4obama Feb 2013 #1
It's that good! Britethorn Feb 2013 #3
Loved the British series! Overseas Feb 2013 #2
I've heard it was quite different tavalon Feb 2013 #11
Haven't watched the US one yet. Overseas Feb 2013 #13
All the better tavalon Feb 2013 #15
Just finished watching this NV Whino Feb 2013 #4
I have a slightly different take on it tavalon Feb 2013 #5
Now I've just finished the 5th episode tavalon Feb 2013 #6
Yeah, it's terrible when an actor addresses the audience directly. Lionel Mandrake Feb 2013 #7
You, know, while I might recognize that writer (duh) tavalon Feb 2013 #8
Thank you for being a good sport. Lionel Mandrake Feb 2013 #9
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about tavalon Feb 2013 #10
I sort of expected to get flamed. Lionel Mandrake Feb 2013 #12
Yeah, I often use this place to get my snark on tavalon Feb 2013 #14

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
1. Just finished watching episode #7. I'm addicted.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 05:14 PM
Feb 2013

Started with the first episode last night,
hoping to finish up with #13 by midnight.

I LOVE IT

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
11. I've heard it was quite different
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:29 PM
Feb 2013

I'd love to hear what you see as the differences and similarities.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
4. Just finished watching this
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 07:53 PM
Feb 2013

We have a thread going in the Netflix group.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11431996

This is outstanding. Wright and Spacey are fabulous. I'm on my way to watch it again.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
5. I have a slightly different take on it
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:51 AM
Feb 2013

I think the writers were mediocre but the cast is just so above and beyond great that they have made a good show out of it. I don't personally like it when actors break the fourth wall, except in comedy and then only good comedy. That said, if anyone can do it, Kevin Spacey can. There are few actors who are in his league. Even when he plays an unsympathetic character, he's just so talented. Superhumanly so.

Overall, I give this series a B when I think it could have been an A+. Of course, I must caveat this by saying that many a series requires a while to get on its feet and I've only watched two episodes. I will, of course, watch all of it for three reasons. Because it might get better, and it reminds me of the truth of the institutionalized evil that is the Beltway and lastly, Kevin Spacey. I can't remember a single thing that wasn't enhanced by having Kevin Spacey in it.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
6. Now I've just finished the 5th episode
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 10:49 AM
Feb 2013

I will wait a few days to watch any more. I'm finding the expository fourth wall breakages to be irritating, but I guess I need to realize that they are not just pandering to the wonks, but trying to draw in people who might not be able to follow the arc without explanation.

I grew up on West Wing. Yeah, sometimes I had to rewind because Aaron Sorkin is manic and expects that everyone can keep up but eventually, I did keep up.

I'm able to follow this story with ease and the transitions, for me, are not hard. But, the stop for the expository, even by the great actor, Kevin Spacey, are driving me mad. I've never had the urge to tell Kevin Spacey to STFU, but damn, this story is tightening up and every time he explains to me what I already understand or soon will, I get yanked out of the story.

Whoever thought that part was a nice addition is a moron, IMO.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
7. Yeah, it's terrible when an actor addresses the audience directly.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:02 AM
Feb 2013

Here's an egregious example, where the writer (vastly overrated) makes the actor go on and on, telling us what we already know:

"Now is the winter of our discontent
Made glorious summer by this sun of York;
And all the clouds that lour'd upon our house
In the deep bosom of the ocean buried.
Now are our brows bound with victorious wreaths;
Our bruised arms hung up for monuments;
Our stern alarums changed to merry meetings,
Our dreadful marches to delightful measures.
Grim-visaged war hath smooth'd his wrinkled front;
And now, instead of mounting barded steeds
To fright the souls of fearful adversaries,
He capers nimbly in a lady's chamber
To the lascivious pleasing of a lute.
But I, that am not shaped for sportive tricks,
Nor made to court an amorous looking-glass;
I, that am rudely stamp'd, and want love's majesty
To strut before a wanton ambling nymph;
I, that am curtail'd of this fair proportion,
Cheated of feature by dissembling nature,
Deformed, unfinish'd, sent before my time
Into this breathing world, scarce half made up,
And that so lamely and unfashionable
That dogs bark at me as I halt by them;
Why, I, in this weak piping time of peace,
Have no delight to pass away the time,
Unless to spy my shadow in the sun
And descant on mine own deformity:
And therefore, since I cannot prove a lover,
To entertain these fair well-spoken days,
I am determined to prove a villain
And hate the idle pleasures of these days.
Plots have I laid, inductions dangerous,
By drunken prophecies, libels and dreams,
To set my brother Clarence and the king
In deadly hate the one against the other:
And if King Edward be as true and just
As I am subtle, false and treacherous,
This day should Clarence closely be mew'd up,
About a prophecy, which says that 'G'
Of Edward's heirs the murderer shall be."

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
8. You, know, while I might recognize that writer (duh)
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 03:18 AM
Feb 2013

and I know what point you were making, IMO, the fourth wall is more easily broken and less jarring on the theater stage.

I ended up watching the whole first season of the series, but it was only the acting strength of Kevin Spacey and Robin Wright and the other side characters that kept me going. In this series, breaking the fourth wall doesn't work for me.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
9. Thank you for being a good sport.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:47 AM
Feb 2013

You're right; an aside is less jarring in the theater. What's less jarring in movies is a voice-over representing the thoughts of a character.

"House of Cards" violates the rules for movies. I like that.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
10. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:28 PM
Feb 2013

Actually, another of my favorite movies, starring Kevin Spacey, is American Beauty, and it uses the voice-over to magnificent affect. House of Cards does violate the rules and I like it in spite of the jarring. I don't think a lesser actor could have pulled it off.

As far as my being a good sport, well, I usually am, though during menopause, I would have bitten your head off and spit out the crunchy bits and that would only have necessitated you sending me a waving smiley. Me and HRT are tight and because of it, I can be the easy going person I was before the rage monster of menopause appeared.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
12. I sort of expected to get flamed.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:14 PM
Feb 2013

It's not my fault. The devil makes me write stuff like that.

Having my head bitten off would have been bad enough, but having the crunchy bits spat out would have been truly awful. It's lucky for me that you have reverted to your usual easy-going self.

I agree about Kevin Spacey. Another movie of his with voice-over is "The Usual Suspects".

Another great movie IMO is "LA Confidential", in which Kevin Spacey's role is truncated during a scene in which the main bad guy does something particularly evil.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
14. Yeah, I often use this place to get my snark on
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:22 PM
Feb 2013

so that I can be normal out in the world of normals. But I'm finding it less fun. Your thing just wasn't snarky enough to get my goat and it was a good point.

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