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CNN questions pastor who falsely says Covid-19 is a 'fake pandemic' (CNN) (Original Post) ItsjustMe Dec 2020 OP
my one regret lapfog_1 Dec 2020 #1
That about covers it. onecaliberal Dec 2020 #2
Scumbag doesn't even know how to use a dictionary dalton99a Dec 2020 #3
Inspired by God. plimsoll Dec 2020 #4
If this is God's best representitives on Earth..... OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2020 #5
Someone explain to me how theses "churches" can claim tax exemption. Laffy Kat Dec 2020 #6
These aren't Churches. Claire Oh Nette Dec 2020 #8
But does the IRS actually follow through on collecting the taxes? Laffy Kat Dec 2020 #10
No, I don't think they do. Claire Oh Nette Dec 2020 #13
Proud of their ignorance Claire Oh Nette Dec 2020 #7
So the dude who clearly AirmensMom Dec 2020 #9
Simply refuse to treat them if they get COVID. magicguido Dec 2020 #11
No medical care for these willfully ignorant shits Lars39 Dec 2020 #12

lapfog_1

(29,815 posts)
1. my one regret
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 11:32 PM
Dec 2020

is that this virus infects everyone... not just stupid idiots.

my second regret is that if it would only infect the people who deny it exists... is that it isn't more lethal than it is.

I know, not very charitable of me... but I have no more fucks to give and these people are largely responsible for putting the rest of us at risk.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
8. These aren't Churches.
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 03:44 AM
Dec 2020

The minute he spoke of politics with intent to sway his flock (flocks generally get fleeced, no?) to resist and protest and gather together flouting the law, they lose their tax exempt status, and they owe (retroactive back) property taxes and income taxes based on those open to the pubic books.

Preaching mis information and deliberate disinformation on a public health crisis is a criminal act. The yahoo who said COVID was not a pandemic, because he's never seen one (probably like the Dustin Hoffman Contagion movie) in his 55 whole years. When pressed, on a definition of what a pandemic is, so they're on the same page, he dithers and repeats his cock sure this ain't it. Again, give that "preacher/propagandist" a waiver bypassing any and all treatment for any of his cogregents.

I can only hope the culling is of the most smug and defiant.

Laffy Kat

(16,484 posts)
10. But does the IRS actually follow through on collecting the taxes?
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 12:59 PM
Dec 2020

I mean, you see this everywhere. Is anything being done?

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
13. No, I don't think they do.
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 05:11 PM
Dec 2020

However, new administration.

I for one will be writing my representatives about this.

Hell, I may write all of them. It's my congress, my senate, my government who work for me.

There is very little scripture and parable in these churches, just hate on liberals, hate on gays, hate on immigrants, despite themselves being two, three, maybe four generations removed from immigrant.

They can't be patriots and call for civil war and coup to subvert democracy.
They can't have a tax expemption because they are religious institutions when they preach politics. They want it both ways, and we'be got to pressure where we can to make change.

The poster who suggested we call DIsneyand have them pressure DeSantis was brilliant.

We have no PAC, so we have to vote with our dollars every day. CEOs don't want bad publicity. We have more power than we think, and there are more of us than there are of them.

Letter writing campaigns. Start with the 106 Elected Representatives who are supporting this redo bullshit. "Please resign if you are not going to going support and defend the constitution yo swore to uphold. Resign if you will not permit democracy to function. SHame on you. Because you do know better. Resign, because you've already demonstrated you do not support our federal system of representative democracy. Shame on you."

If every member and lurker on DU would write to them, we'd at least make them nervous.

climbing of soapbox. I's tired.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
7. Proud of their ignorance
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 03:36 AM
Dec 2020

Not one person, including the reporter, has any idea about what goes in to bringing a vaccine to market. Not one of the Tennesseans interviewed showed any intellectual curiosity, just fear and blind faith.

Pre-clinical trials first in laboratory animal to show safety of a new drug before it ever goes into people. Humans are not the guinea pigs. Guinea Pigs and other laboratory animals are.

Phase 1 small scale safety trials, 30 -80 patients in Clinic, that is, in primarily human populations, to monitor ingestion, absorption, metabolism, and excretion.

OK, it's safe in animals and relatively healthy people.

The IND moves to phase II testing in larger trials designed to target the virus or disease. Hundreds of patients at investigational sites across the country. Each patient enrolled is tracked and measured and monitored via case report forms which are the rawest of raw data.

Meetings with the FDA and another larger trial--large numbers of people with the targeted disease. Depending on the disease or treatment, thousands, even multiple thousands of patients.

That's what actual doctors in actual clinics (hospitals in this instance) have been doing since the onset of virus in China and the East, Europe, and the United States, among other areas. My work was not with the vaccine group--who have to be extra tested because it's not small populations of breast cancer, ovarian cancer, non narcotic pain relief, anti virals or anti fungals, but all 330;000,000 AMericans, oh, yeah, and the world, too.


They want more testing and more time, yet refused to do the very simple thing that would have kept the curve flat and bought us that time. They live in fear which triggers this irrational pattern of anti science, anti vaxx dangerous tomfoolery.

Fine, don't get a vaccine. But carry a card in yur wallet saying to refuse any ER or ICU care because it's just a hoax.


AirmensMom

(14,734 posts)
9. So the dude who clearly
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 09:00 AM
Dec 2020

Does not know what a pandemic is wants his cult followers to “use their bible and use their brain.” Ok, you first, asshole. SMDH

This is what I live in the middle of.

Lars39

(26,187 posts)
12. No medical care for these willfully ignorant shits
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 02:35 PM
Dec 2020

And that sociopath of a preacher can fuck off and be the first to succumb

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