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I personally am tired of hearing that First Amendment rights protect students when they are creating a hostile and unsafe learning environment for myself and for other students here. I think that its important for us to create that distinction and create a space where we can all learn from one another and start to create a place of healing rather than a place where we are experiencing a lot of hate like we have in the past.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)'teachable moments' about the First Amendment.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)One by one the bill of rights are being destroyed in the name of the greater good.
What kind of a world are we creating for the next generation?...more like Orwell every day.
7962
(11,841 posts)And its happening on several campuses across the country.
Whats even worse, how are these "helpless" kids going to react to the working world?
zeemike
(18,998 posts)During the 60s...where they took it from the schools to the country and caused havoc in the country.
They are displaying the same kind of thinking as the Red Gard did back then.
jamzrockz
(1,333 posts)because your speech can the censored on this very website? Of course not. You understand that there are going to be areas in life where the moderators can silence your speech like here on DU.
Don't agree with her but some people are just overreacting
zeemike
(18,998 posts)But how about if you censor speech on the internet? If DU can do it why not the internet in general?
It is odd that the free speech movement of the 60s has now flipped and now universities lead the way for censorship.
jamzrockz
(1,333 posts)I do not agree with the woman but I am not going to declare 1st amendment to be dead just because someone called for censorship in a public college. Also changedotcom is essentially public domain but do you think I would be allowed to post pornographic material on there? probably not because said speech is going to be offensive to some people.
Hate this attitude turns fast but I don't think this is the beginning of anything.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)But it is hard to pinpoint when tyranny actually begins because it is never a sudden thing.
It firsts starts with someone taking an inch and then soon it is a mile.
That is why it is important to have principles and stand up for them.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)makes as good a sword as a shield. Take the blows on the shield, then strike back!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)If she's talking about having people disagree with her, thpfft.
Delver Rootnose
(250 posts)...even protects profound assholes like the clan. Freedom is sometimes hard. A desire for a 'safe space' does not remove that right.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)and in the workplace where federal civil rights protections forbid hostile environments that exclude students based on sex, race and religion
beevul
(12,194 posts)Schools should have a special 1 day event called "A day without the first amendment", annually.
Just to show kids like this one (and profs like Melissa Click) that they should be very careful what they wish for.
DAngelo136
(265 posts)many of us on the left misunderstand the 1st Amendment and it's limits as much as those on the right do.
The 1st Amendment only means that the government can't arrest you for political speech. It DOES NOT protect you from; libel and slander suits, dismissal from your job or a punch in the face in the case of fighting words and personal insults.
In blunt terms: You can call me "nigger" if you wish and I will also wish to bash in your face in return. Now ask yourself: "Is that risk worth it?"
So, yes, there ARE limits to free speech; some legally imposed and others by common sense, courtesy and self preservation.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)would seem to be protected, while your right to punch me in the face might land you with charges from the state.
svpadgham
(670 posts)nt
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tecelote
(5,122 posts)Free speech let's people express/expose themselves for who they are.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Here's a teachable moment for you, Brenda: Government entities (like the University of Missouri) are bound by the First Amendment. Private entities (like Yale) are not. Her comment was in response to a question that arose from a Yale policy about offensive Halloween costumes. Yale and other private universities have much more leeway in restricting what people say or do. Some fundies have established Pensacola Christian College, and they're not bound by the First Amendment, which leaves them free to repress all speech with which they disagree (including even schools of thought within Christianity that displease them).
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