Fri Oct 30, 2015, 10:37 AM

EarlG (18,090 posts)

Pic Of The Moment: Republican Frontrunners Winning Big In Epic Battle Against Truth

PolitiFact: Donald Trump

PolitiFact: Ben Carson

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Pic Of The Moment: Republican Frontrunners Winning Big In Epic Battle Against Truth (Original post)	EarlG	Oct 2015	OP
Pure propaganda	underpants	Oct 2015	#1
Obviously, politifact is part	NewJeffCT	Oct 2015	#3
Ouch	NewJeffCT	Oct 2015	#2
I don't think that will affect their base of racists and low info dupes.	olegramps	Oct 2015	#34
rofl	BootinUp	Oct 2015	#4
"........The devil is a liar and is the father of lies. "	ErikJ	Oct 2015	#5
Krugmann talked about this today	mindwalker_i	Oct 2015	#6
+1	BootinUp	Oct 2015	#12
Trump told the truth about 9/11, and W's incompetence.	mountain grammy	Oct 2015	#7
That's part of the 8%	patsimp	Oct 2015	#10
Oh yeah, politifact would rate that only partially true...	mountain grammy	Oct 2015	#11
To quote Dubya:	trusty elf	Oct 2015	#8
"They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people,	forest444	Oct 2015	#18
Bad examples	Roy Rolling	Oct 2015	#9
I don't get how one can be mostly true or half true.	Deadshot	Oct 2015	#13
Most political rhetoric contains grains of truth	Martin Eden	Oct 2015	#15
Example: It got cold last winter. This proves global warming is a hoax.	tclambert	Oct 2015	#25
Republicans lie?	d_legendary1	Oct 2015	#14
Bullshit Rhetoric is a good Barometer	Martin Eden	Oct 2015	#16
I always knew Trump was the only "honest" one among them.	forest444	Oct 2015	#17
K&R!	stonecutter357	Oct 2015	#19
But, but, but these 2 guys are the leading frontrunners for the Republican party!!	Major Hogwash	Oct 2015	#20
Both of them are full of truthiness.	KamaAina	Oct 2015	#21
They have NOTHING ELSE to run on n/t	Fritz Walter	Oct 2015	#22
Let's not overreact now	Jon Fogerty	Oct 2015	#23
Has Carson stated "I am a surgeon" since the beginning of his pres campaign?	uppityperson	Oct 2015	#24
That's why Trump is in second place.	Quasimodem	Oct 2015	#26
I once worked for a company	indivisibleman	Oct 2015	#27
They are the perfect candidates	bearssoapbox	Oct 2015	#28
I guess	Jamaal510	Oct 2015	#29
I knew it.	Enthusiast	Oct 2015	#30
Is The Donald's 8% from the times he's calling the others loser, idiots, and stupid? nt	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Oct 2015	#31
Good one....and blaming Bush for ignoring Bin Laden must be part of that.	Fred Sanders	Oct 2015	#33
The man never stops showing signs of low IQ (Inflexibility, racism, infantileness, lack of depth,	trillion	Oct 2015	#42
I rate the claims of the corporate mass media ignoring the systematic GOP lying as "Mostly True".	Fred Sanders	Oct 2015	#32
Self-immolation pants on fire.	lonestarnot	Oct 2015	#35
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Oct 2015	#36
They really have stupid expressions	patsimp	Oct 2015	#37
Bad for America	Johnny2X2X	Oct 2015	#38
Unfortunately their supporters are so devoid of facts	kimbutgar	Oct 2015	#39
Crazy, too.	Octafish	Oct 2015	#40
While they're always saying things that aren't true, I think they believe it and crazy is the word	trillion	Oct 2015	#43
I seriously don't get why any one would vote for either of these two and I would never trust	trillion	Oct 2015	#41
Brawaaaa.. so the one with 0% is edging ahead.. figures!	Cha	Nov 2015	#44
Liars for sure. How about a which one is crazier meme?	Dont call me Shirley	Nov 2015	#45

Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 10:41 AM

underpants (159,095 posts)

1. Pure propaganda

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Response to underpants (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 10:43 AM

NewJeffCT (56,436 posts)

3. Obviously, politifact is part

of the fact-based liberal media conspiracy.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 10:42 AM

NewJeffCT (56,436 posts)

2. Ouch

if either wins the nomination, that's a great graphic to run as a TV commercial

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 31, 2015, 08:17 AM

olegramps (7,938 posts)

34. I don't think that will affect their base of racists and low info dupes.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 10:49 AM

BootinUp (40,032 posts)

4. rofl

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 10:58 AM

ErikJ (6,335 posts)

5. "........The devil is a liar and is the father of lies. "

John 8: 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 10:59 AM

mindwalker_i (4,407 posts)

6. Krugmann talked about this today

Springtime For Grifters

His thesis is that the republicans are leading their followers in order to make money for themselves. For example, some candidates want to go back to the gold standard, and those same candidates are involved in buying gold. Asking them tough questions is met with boos.

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Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:48 AM

BootinUp (40,032 posts)

12. +1

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:05 AM

mountain grammy (22,485 posts)

7. Trump told the truth about 9/11, and W's incompetence.

Guess that statement wasn't rated since it's just common knowledge.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:38 AM

patsimp (915 posts)

10. That's part of the 8%

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Response to patsimp (Reply #10)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:48 AM

mountain grammy (22,485 posts)

11. Oh yeah, politifact would rate that only partially true...

because 100% truth is liberal bias.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:15 AM

trusty elf (6,653 posts)

8. To quote Dubya:

"Nothing could be further than the truth."

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Response to trusty elf (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:45 PM

forest444 (5,902 posts)

18. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people,

...and neither do we."

A Kinsey gaffe if there ever was one.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushismvideos/youtube/bushharmamerica.htm

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Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:32 AM

Roy Rolling (4,930 posts)

9. Bad examples

I'm surprised these two devout Christian holy men are not more observant of their Nine Commandments.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:54 AM

Deadshot (384 posts)

13. I don't get how one can be mostly true or half true.

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Response to Deadshot (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:19 PM

Martin Eden (10,493 posts)

15. Most political rhetoric contains grains of truth

Quite often they use only part of the truth (intentionally leaving our relevant facts or context) to paint a false narrative.

This is done to varying degrees; hence, Poltifact's sliding scale.

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Response to Deadshot (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 07:34 PM

tclambert (10,582 posts)

25. Example: It got cold last winter. This proves global warming is a hoax.

It got cold last winter = TRUE
This proves global warming is a hoax = FALSE

The major point of the whole statement is false, but the fact mentioned in the first sentence is true. So you could call the whole thing fractionally true, maybe even half true, if you feel generous, though the true component is trivial and the false component is of great consequence.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:05 PM

d_legendary1 (2,586 posts)

14. Republicans lie?

Say it ain't so!

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Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:20 PM

Martin Eden (10,493 posts)

16. Bullshit Rhetoric is a good Barometer

To measure popularity among the "conservative" base.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:41 PM

forest444 (5,902 posts)

17. I always knew Trump was the only "honest" one among them.

You know, by Republican standards.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:21 PM

stonecutter357 (12,069 posts)

19. K&R!

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Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:04 PM

Major Hogwash (17,656 posts)

20. But, but, but these 2 guys are the leading frontrunners for the Republican party!!

Which means they will collect about 60% of the vote between just the 2 of them from the Republicans during the primary season.

The other 11 guys, and Carly, only get about 40% of the rest of the votes -- combined -- between all of them.

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Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:37 PM

KamaAina (78,249 posts)

21. Both of them are full of truthiness.

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Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:40 PM

Fritz Walter (3,478 posts)

22. They have NOTHING ELSE to run on n/t

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 04:18 PM

Jon Fogerty (40 posts)

23. Let's not overreact now

PolitiFact only rates highly inflammatory or questionable statements, obviously these guys have stated more truths (such as, "I am rich" and "I am a surgeon", etc.) than lies.

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Response to Jon Fogerty (Reply #23)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 04:25 PM

uppityperson (114,781 posts)

24. Has Carson stated "I am a surgeon" since the beginning of his pres campaign?

Welcome to DU, I look forward to more of your posts.

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Fri Oct 30, 2015, 07:39 PM

Quasimodem (441 posts)

26. That's why Trump is in second place.

He let a wee taint of truth contaminate his winning Tea Party cheese.

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Fri Oct 30, 2015, 09:07 PM

indivisibleman (482 posts)

27. I once worked for a company

where the president would often say, "It doesn't have to be the truth. It just has to be convincing."

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Fri Oct 30, 2015, 09:48 PM

bearssoapbox (1,334 posts)

28. They are the perfect candidates

They are the perfect candidates for the willfully stupid and willfully ignorant of the republican/teabagger party.

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Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:32 PM

Jamaal510 (10,867 posts)

29. I guess

what people say about these 2 being outsides is correct; they're outside the realm of reality.

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Sat Oct 31, 2015, 06:13 AM

Enthusiast (50,983 posts)

30. I knew it.

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Sat Oct 31, 2015, 06:48 AM

Erich Bloodaxe BSN (14,733 posts)

31. Is The Donald's 8% from the times he's calling the others loser, idiots, and stupid? nt

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Sat Oct 31, 2015, 08:06 AM

Fred Sanders (23,946 posts)

33. Good one....and blaming Bush for ignoring Bin Laden must be part of that.

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #31)

Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:18 PM

trillion (1,859 posts)

42. The man never stops showing signs of low IQ (Inflexibility, racism, infantileness, lack of depth,

massively bad reasoning, doesn't learn from his mistakes) And yet, he calls other's idiots. The worst part is the Republcians actually believe he's brilliant. I think him and his endanged-species-killing sons have inherited profoundly low IQs.

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Sat Oct 31, 2015, 08:06 AM

Fred Sanders (23,946 posts)

32. I rate the claims of the corporate mass media ignoring the systematic GOP lying as "Mostly True".

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Sat Oct 31, 2015, 08:25 AM

lonestarnot (77,097 posts)

35. Self-immolation pants on fire.

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Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:04 AM

patsimp (915 posts)

37. They really have stupid expressions

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Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:21 AM

Johnny2X2X (9,538 posts)

38. Bad for America

These liars are the front runners for a major party. This is terrible for the country. Half the people here live in an alternate reality divorced from actual facts.

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Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:41 PM

kimbutgar (14,785 posts)

39. Unfortunately their supporters are so devoid of facts

You could talk until you are blue in the face and won't be able to convince them that both candidates are so unqualified to be president that it is scary.

It is bewildering to me that anyone would consider such buffoonish crazy people like trump and Carson. Both lack the intellect and gravitas to be President.

We are surrounded by our fellow citizens who are brainwashed zombies.

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Sat Oct 31, 2015, 02:20 PM

Octafish (55,745 posts)

40. Crazy, too.

Liars to the very core, all of them.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #40)

Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:19 PM

trillion (1,859 posts)

43. While they're always saying things that aren't true, I think they believe it and crazy is the word

that nails it.

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Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:11 PM

trillion (1,859 posts)

41. I seriously don't get why any one would vote for either of these two and I would never trust

Carson to operate on me.

Every election Republicans go for the dumbest candidates. Even Fiorina came out as dumb as a box of racks. I honestly don't get why republicans are going for people this stupid.

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Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:53 AM

Cha (268,186 posts)

44. Brawaaaa.. so the one with 0% is edging ahead.. figures!

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Sun Nov 1, 2015, 04:45 PM

Dont call me Shirley (10,998 posts)

45. Liars for sure. How about a which one is crazier meme?

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