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EarlG

(21,947 posts)
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:07 PM Sep 2015

Pic Of The Moment: Clueless Carson Wants Religious Test



Ben Carson says he wouldn't want a Muslim president

No Religious Test Clause

"It's important that we get the best candidate"



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Pic Of The Moment: Clueless Carson Wants Religious Test (Original Post) EarlG Sep 2015 OP
No! SoapBox Sep 2015 #1
I have the feeling that he wouldn't yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #2
Agreed. SoapBox Sep 2015 #3
Hmm, what about Jehovah Witnesses, Mormon, Catholic? lark Sep 2015 #17
Its so hard to believe he's a brain Surgeon yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #21
It's very easy how he got through med school. pangaia Sep 2015 #37
you forgot atheist Angry Dragon Sep 2015 #25
Oops, also forgot agnostic too. lark Sep 2015 #33
Watch out if a Lutheran is ever elected President, because Still In Wisconsin Sep 2015 #40
tator-tot-hotdish Angry Dragon Sep 2015 #45
this man has devolved. barbtries Sep 2015 #4
While "brain surgeon" is used colloquially in a certain sense jberryhill Sep 2015 #7
Greed and ambition Fritz Walter Sep 2015 #8
Thats funny cause I said the same thing yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #23
See my reply to you above. :>)) pangaia Sep 2015 #38
my question, also. He seems "slow" wordpix Sep 2015 #29
As a wise DUer pointed out to me recently when I brought up this very same issue. herding cats Sep 2015 #5
yes ............. makes sense Angry Dragon Sep 2015 #24
Talk about somebody that needs some "Brain work" BlueJazz Sep 2015 #6
benny boy, you are an idiot. niyad Sep 2015 #9
K&R! stonecutter357 Sep 2015 #10
Those poor Republicans and according to Huckabee Carson should be a slave via Dred Scott. gordianot Sep 2015 #11
"Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be" arcane1 Sep 2015 #12
So 'thoughtless' a remark. I wonder why he quit Neurosurgery for Republican RW politics. Sunlei Sep 2015 #13
maybe he wasn't such a good doc? Very strange he'd make the switch wordpix Sep 2015 #30
That's What The Media Is Going With, Too, But... NonMetro Sep 2015 #14
Too bad passing some sort of basic test to show SheilaT Sep 2015 #15
It should be. stage left Sep 2015 #31
His brain has been Jesusified. He can't see beyond his Jesus. nt valerief Sep 2015 #16
Brain Surgery stage left Sep 2015 #18
Everybody knows NewJeffCT Sep 2015 #19
These Cons keeps quoting the constitution without reading it d_legendary1 Sep 2015 #20
I are a bad shenmue Sep 2015 #22
I'm surprised that right wingers aren't saying that Ben Carson "Looks like a Muslim" W T F Sep 2015 #26
Carson is in the Republican mainstream Shoonra Sep 2015 #27
Oughtn't one who aspires to be POTUS... 3catwoman3 Sep 2015 #28
Carson speaks like he's on a narcotic SHRED Sep 2015 #32
Carson is a stupid, ignorant, bigoted, dumb fuck. pangaia Sep 2015 #34
So sharia law is ok kacekwl Sep 2015 #35
Crazy asshole says Muslims don't separate religion and state... liberal N proud Sep 2015 #36
I know a LOT of physicians, and here is an observation: Still In Wisconsin Sep 2015 #39
Earl G ANNIHILATES Ben Carson! nt Herman4747 Sep 2015 #41
K&R! stonecutter357 Sep 2015 #42
This is your brain on bad drugs ... GeorgeGist Sep 2015 #43
I'm also tempted to impose a religious test meow2u3 Sep 2015 #44

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
1. No!
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:09 PM
Sep 2015

Period.

Clueless doesn't matter to Pukes and Baggers...they want their radicalized crap and that's all they want.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
2. I have the feeling that he wouldn't
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:10 PM
Sep 2015

care for a Presidential Candidate who was Buddhist, ...seems like that might ruin his day
as well.

lark

(23,099 posts)
17. Hmm, what about Jehovah Witnesses, Mormon, Catholic?
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:18 PM
Sep 2015

How far does his rule out list go?

What a moroon. It's really hard to square the idiocy coming out of his mouth with his many accomplishments prior to becoming a politician.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
21. Its so hard to believe he's a brain Surgeon
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:48 PM
Sep 2015

how the hell did he get through medical school, with the way he is??

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
37. It's very easy how he got through med school.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:22 PM
Sep 2015

It has nothing to do with a true connection with human beings. None whatsoever. It has nothing to do with studying one's awareness of one's self. It COULD, but HE is missing "that gene" to 'see.' He is a sleeping blind man.

He never ever considered the possible real meaning of "Sleepers, Awake !"

Or, as I said, "He is a stupid, ignorant, untutored bigoted fuck."

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
40. Watch out if a Lutheran is ever elected President, because
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:02 PM
Sep 2015

we will force-feed everyone bland casseroles.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. While "brain surgeon" is used colloquially in a certain sense
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:26 PM
Sep 2015

Have you ever stopped and thought about it?

The brain is (a) not fully understood, and (b) capable of re-organizing itself to a large extent to compensate for damage.

If the patient lives - and ancient people did brain surgery, typically to deal with lesions and swelling from trauma - then you don't know if it was the best outcome or not.

So, someone presents with a cancerous mass in their brain. You map it out, figure out how to remove it with the least damage to surrounding tissue, go cut it out, and seal off as few blood vessels as needed in that area. Unlike other organs, which will need resection and repair, you're done.

The patient may have profound challenges to overcome, but the brain will do its best job of compensating for whatever you've done to it.

That's my thoroughly-uninformed take, but if I had to do brain surgery or say heart surgery - I'd go for the brain. Way too many things can go wrong with heart surgery.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
8. Greed and ambition
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:39 PM
Sep 2015

Clearly, he's pandering to a donor-base and eventually to a voter-base that love this kind of comment.

With such a strong backlash from everyone else, he's now trying to back-pedal his remarks: he was quoted out of context. On live network TV.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
23. Thats funny cause I said the same thing
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:50 PM
Sep 2015

posted above. I mean, whats next? A stupid Rocket Scientist? I wonder if he shouldn't be looked into, how could this guy go through medical school and be so ignorant?

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
29. my question, also. He seems "slow"
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:40 PM
Sep 2015

But just b/c he has a word retrieval problem, it doesn't mean he's slow, right? Right?

I do not want anyone who's slow thinking as my president. I would rather have Trumpit.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
5. As a wise DUer pointed out to me recently when I brought up this very same issue.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:21 PM
Sep 2015
"Christian conservatives use the Constitution the same way they use the Bible

They ignore the parts they don't like."


William Seger http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1212063

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
11. Those poor Republicans and according to Huckabee Carson should be a slave via Dred Scott.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:56 PM
Sep 2015

Of course media will not ask the embarrassing questions to any members of the clown car.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
12. "Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be"
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:12 PM
Sep 2015

ESCONDIDO, CA—Spurred by an administration he believes to be guilty of numerous transgressions, self-described American patriot Kyle Mortensen, 47, is a vehement defender of ideas he seems to think are enshrined in the U.S. Constitution and principles that brave men have fought and died for solely in his head.

Kyle Mortensen would gladly give his life to protect what he says is the Constitution's very clear stance against birth control.

"Our very way of life is under siege," said Mortensen, whose understanding of the Constitution derives not from a close reading of the document but from talk-show pundits, books by television personalities, and the limitless expanse of his own colorful imagination. "It's time for true Americans to stand up and protect the values that make us who we are."

According to Mortensen—an otherwise mild-mannered husband, father, and small-business owner—the most serious threat to his fanciful version of the 222-year-old Constitution is the attempt by far-left "traitors" to strip it of its religious foundation.

"Right there in the preamble, the authors make their priorities clear: 'one nation under God,'" said Mortensen, attributing to the Constitution a line from the Pledge of Allegiance, which itself did not include any reference to a deity until 1954. "Well, there's a reason they put that right at the top."

-snip-

http://www.theonion.com/article/area-man-passionate-defender-of-what-he-imagines-c-2849

Still my all-time favorite Onion article



Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
13. So 'thoughtless' a remark. I wonder why he quit Neurosurgery for Republican RW politics.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:52 PM
Sep 2015
people just don't up and quit, walk away from a career they love

NonMetro

(631 posts)
14. That's What The Media Is Going With, Too, But...
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:57 PM
Sep 2015

They're wrong, and they're sort of letting him off the hook here, and dignifying it by changing what he said into a constitutional question. But Ben didn't make the connection between what he said and the constitution until it was pointed out to him. So, when he says he didn't mean it that way, that's true, 'cause all he really meant was he doesn't want a Muslim for president!

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
15. Too bad passing some sort of basic test to show
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:03 PM
Sep 2015

a candidate actually understands the Constitution isn't a requirement to run for higher office. Or even for county clerk.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
19. Everybody knows
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:39 PM
Sep 2015

that the the 21st century teabagger knows WAY more about original intent than those silly Founding Fathers.

Shoonra

(521 posts)
27. Carson is in the Republican mainstream
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:11 PM
Sep 2015

Ben Carson might suppose that a Muslim cannot hope to be President, in this election cycle, with the country at war with a number of Muslim enemies (Al-Qaeda, Taliban, ISIL, etc.). I bet a lot of Republicans - and even a lot of Democrats - feel that way although, soothingly, there is no Islamic contender in view.

But in the previous election cycle, 2012, other, more established Republicans - Newt Gingrich and Mike Huckabee - trotted out preachers to tell us that a Mormon (namely Mitt Romney) should not be President because of his religion. More to the point, they told us that only the right kind of Christian was qualified, a comment that deeply stung Jewish voters.

In 2008 there was, besides a whispering campaign that Obama was a secret Muslim, a much louder campaign that he was attending the wrong kind of Christian church, whose pastor, Rev. Josiah Wright, would say things like "God Damn America" -- this from some Republicans who associate with preachers who tell us that God does damn America for allowing same-sex marriage and affordable health care.

Back in 2000, some propaganda against Al Gore's choice for VP, Senator Joe Lieberman, because he was an orthodox Jew.

Back in 1984, the Republicans also trashed Fritz Mondale, in part because his brother was prominent in the Ethical Culture religion altho Fritz himself was not a member.

3catwoman3

(23,987 posts)
28. Oughtn't one who aspires to be POTUS...
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:37 PM
Sep 2015

...know at least a little bit about the constitution the he/she will be swearing to uphold and defend?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
34. Carson is a stupid, ignorant, bigoted, dumb fuck.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:41 PM
Sep 2015

"When moderator Chuck Todd pressed him further, asking, "Do you believe that Islam is consistent with the Constitution?" Carson responded, "No, I don't."

"I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that," he said."



liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
36. Crazy asshole says Muslims don't separate religion and state...
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:01 PM
Sep 2015

Isn't that what him and his fundamentalist Christians want a theocracy.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
39. I know a LOT of physicians, and here is an observation:
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:59 PM
Sep 2015

All of them are bright. If they weren't they would have never gotten into med school. HOWEVER, while some/most of them are versatile intellectually and are good at a lot of different things, others know a lot about their narrowly defined field of medicine, and outside of that they can barely use the restroom without pissing down their own leg.

Guess which kind I suspect Carson of being.

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