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marmar

(77,080 posts)
Sat May 19, 2012, 12:28 PM May 2012

Chris Hedges: NDAA Ruling 'Monumental Decision'





Published on May 18, 2012 by TheAlyonaShow

We'll discuss the ruling on the National Defense Authorization Act and talk about it more in-depth with author and Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Chris Hedges.


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freshwest

(53,661 posts)
6. I just rec'd and kicking this. Very glad to see this victory in court. Another video that explains
Sat May 19, 2012, 02:36 PM
May 2012

His comment on celebrities and the failure of media to address the major issues and why is in my reply below.


Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
2. "Legitimate dissent" is in peril.
Sat May 19, 2012, 01:12 PM
May 2012

His answer to why Travolta is news, and ndaa isn't was lame. He should have said that GE and the other huge corporations that run our media have an interest in controlling us. They are silent because they want the NDAA ruling.

Freedom is disappearing. The dark cloak of fascism is beginning to wrap itself around us.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
4. I don't think it was "lame"
Sat May 19, 2012, 01:49 PM
May 2012

He's just making the point that the dweebs on the receiving end of TV are perfectly happy to get news that makes them smile - so there's no reason for the "news providers" to ruin their day with disturbing stuff.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. It was a serious omission, his comment perhaps borne of frustration but the ignorance of the process
Sat May 19, 2012, 02:34 PM
May 2012

Among most people is not solely their fault. People crave and require information to make informed decisions about their daily lives and to learn what other people are doing in a global society. These are things that are no longer in a small circle, although in every case it's 'monkey see, monkey do.'

I am going to try to find his book, The World As It Is: Dispatches on the Myth of Human Progress. I believe this to be the case, although perhaps not int he way he will describe it. The media at one time made an attempt to inform the public in order to meet their duty as keeping an informed to confront the problems, both public and private. This is why they have traditionally enjoyed great privilege in investigating matters that impact all of us to the extent that human life, health and freedom are at danger.

Media, mainly televised media, has been and remains the greatest educational tool ever invented, its power increased by the use of psychological means through fast moving images, sound and availability. Many of us fought to keep the public airways, but the privatization of spectrums of broadcast and the creation of the cable news networks was expected to divert attention from traditional news program formats. Thus they created CSPAN to meet that need among subscribers. Then the corporations that profit from warfare and stealing the commons took over and dictated the content.

They have been the ones who created the celebrity culture on television, first by cutting the budgets of more legitimate newsroom staff, then by contracting with entertainment and then what were once called the vice companies to sell their products. It's all been merged into one big sewer that feeds the lowest common denominator of human beings, knowing full well as they do that all imagery, but especially moving images with sound, carries far more emotive power than print or words.

I consider the purchasing of the public airways to be the most powerful tool of fascism as it has enabled all of the others. I am old enough to remember when the celebrity news was relegated to soft programs or those that actually were about them. The reason they are reporting this instead of the news, is obvious. They have a vested interest in the companies that will make money off a fascistic state, and we are hiding if we don't think there is profit there. Look at every contract that is signed for this and that boondoggle from the private sector that steals the commons.

People have been vaccinated against protesting what is happening by either being uninformed, misinformed or giving up on news media altogether. Then they seek other forms of information, go CT or join weird groups to try to make sense of it all. But by that time the owners of media have accomplished their goal, to take the eyes of the masses off what they are doing every single day. I remember the celebrity news nonstop on the cable news network on the days that tens of thousands of Americans took the time to protest in the streets over the Iraq war.

The more intense the celebrity and single human interest story coverage on any given day, and it proves what some media critics have said years ago. They are there not to inform you but to keep you busy while the real business of stealing and changing the world under our feet goes full tilt ahead. So be wary of the media. Here's a video from Hedges last year, why they are doing this although I don't agree with all the slant. I was unsurprised to find Hedges as having come to the same conclusions I did years ago:



Another longer interview of Hedges I found by the same search parameters on youtube, is of him on the Alex Jones Show. I don't agree with the total negative spin but in such cases, because this can become another media circus itself.

Most people do pick and choose when it comes to CT and Chris Hedges. None of his fans endorse his views against the porn industry where he makes a powerful case that liberals are MIA on a business that reflect the worst in human rights abuse and exploitation.

N/T

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
8. Chris Hedges is one of the few who voices my concerns publicly.
Sat May 19, 2012, 05:45 PM
May 2012

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There isn't an interview with him that doesn't reflect the dialogue going on in my own head.

But there is something very important that everyone is missing. The discussions dance around the edges of it. He mentions in the interview you posted that our consumption and lifestyle and corporate assault on the environment have created a situation where we're headed toward disaster. The inconvenient truth, in my opinion, isn't that temperatures are rising. but we have to halt what we're doing to cause it. And that is not corporations. It isn't really even our lifestyle. These statements cause nearly everyone to skip a heartbeat when they hear them. If we think that engineering our way out of disaster is going to be the solution, I consider people to think about what is going to be the case when we have two billion more people on this planet. Of course lifestyle is half of the equation here. But not if the numbers are small enough. If the numbers are big, as they are now, consumption goes far beyond the category of fossil fuel. The problem essentially boils down to one that is in control of every person. How many adults are living today who have not reproduced? That number is staggeringly small.

But this is off topic to the original thread. I believe that the massive population has been necessary to bring a level of world consciousness about. That is part of this thread. The union of human consciousness via the internet has shone a light on the old problems. We're aware of what the evil powerful are doing. We aren't powerless. It's a strange time. Maybe it's just a strange world.

 

Civilization2

(649 posts)
10. The time has come.
Sat May 19, 2012, 06:40 PM
May 2012

interesting flow of thought,. I too see the convergence of all humanity in a single global moment is just ahead.., things are the same as they ever where,. and yet not this time. some things ARE different now.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
7. While Black Bloc smashes windows, Hedges gets the job done brilliantly.
Sat May 19, 2012, 02:55 PM
May 2012

Diversity of tactics indeed.

 

Xedniw

(134 posts)
11. Hedges was correct that the Black Bloc needs to go
Sat May 19, 2012, 07:48 PM
May 2012

and that OWS needs to cut ties to this destructive group.

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